hangemhigh said:Joe Brown his brother? If so,they both didn't fall far from the tree.
No relation. I know Joe Brown...how can I put this, he is a character!
hangemhigh said:Joe Brown his brother? If so,they both didn't fall far from the tree.
hangemhigh said:That kid is a straight shooter. Ruby still tutoring him?
Tommy-D said:> As many pages as there is in this thread and not a single mention of "Chicken" George Kieselat,from up in the Akron/Cleveland area? He is probably capable of beating just about anyone a set here and there,and plays CHEAP too.
He might be known to some,but hardly someone you hear about constantly,is Chris Szuter from Canton,Oh. He owns a room called Fiddlestix,and was barred out of virtually every local-ish tournament up that way,along with George. It got to the point,as I've mentioned here before,that local rooms/bars made it a point to print on their flyers "Chicken George and Chris Szuter CAN NOT PLAY!". Tommy D.
Tommy-D said:> As many pages as there is in this thread and not a single mention of "Chicken" George Kieselat,from up in the Akron/Cleveland area? He is probably capable of beating just about anyone a set here and there,and plays CHEAP too.
He might be known to some,but hardly someone you hear about constantly,is Chris Szuter from Canton,Oh. He owns a room called Fiddlestix,and was barred out of virtually every local-ish tournament up that way,along with George. It got to the point,as I've mentioned here before,that local rooms/bars made it a point to print on their flyers "Chicken George and Chris Szuter CAN NOT PLAY!". Tommy D.
Tommy-D said:> As many pages as there is in this thread and not a single mention of "Chicken" George Kieselat,from up in the Akron/Cleveland area? He is probably capable of beating just about anyone a set here and there,and plays CHEAP too.
He might be known to some,but hardly someone you hear about constantly,is Chris Szuter from Canton,Oh. He owns a room called Fiddlestix,and was barred out of virtually every local-ish tournament up that way,along with George. It got to the point,as I've mentioned here before,that local rooms/bars made it a point to print on their flyers "Chicken George and Chris Szuter CAN NOT PLAY!". Tommy D.
Cashrider said:Finally someone my favorite roadplayer.. wel maybe its him, his name was/is
Danny, they called him HIGHHEELS, never would play the tournament but would take down the winner. l personally was with him in a Muscatine Iowa
$20,000. 'Bar Rag Shoot-Out' where Mike Massey won the tournament,l asked Danny why he didn't play tournament he said he didn't want the noteriety,(even tho he dress like Huggy bear,red leather outfit matching hat and shoes,yes highheel boots,a$3000 piaget whitegold watch ringed in diamonds and two $25000 quarter sized gold with diamond rings.one white one yellow on each hand,very understated) anyway after the tournament
was over and Mike was posing with the check for the cameras Danny came down from the bleachers, when Mike saw him hesaid 'whats up highheels?'
Danny replied 'you know whats up' Mike said l don't gamble anymore ,l'm a christian now, hands went up all over place to stake Mike, longstoryshort Danny Busted em all..after all the stake galloped off , here comes St.Louie Louie Roberts, l believe Danny had to give him weight ,probably the eight and the snap,busted him too, as we were walking out accompanied by the dog Joe Louis(cause he would knock you out) St.louie walked behind in the parking and asked Danny to front him a couple hundred so he could get back in action , Danny refused , in the car l asked why he wouldn;t front another 'player' the money.He said what if l had given him the money ,he goes in there and gets pumped up and comes back and bust me ? l was young and dumb to the game.lesson learned.
freddy the beard said:Danny gave Louie the eight and the break? Danny was a nice player, but he had no chance playing Louie even! The rationale for refusing the bite also had nothing to do with a sharp hustler's advice either. Hustlers loaned each other money so that when they got broke that might have a station to go to when they were in need. Not giving a bite to someone you just broke is not smart, it's cheap.
Is this the same Bobby Baldwin that won the World Series Of Poker in the late 70's and became President of the Mirage Hotel in Vegas. Has worked for Steve Wynn for many years now. I know he was from Oklahoma and loved to play pool. He had a memorable game with Archie The Greek, maybe the biggest pool game moneywise ever. 20K-40K a game 9-Ball on a bar table.
In a earlier post I asked about Bud Hype,what do you know about him.jnav447 said:Great thread. I had the pleasure of talking to Vernon Elliott at the last DCC. One of his stories: He's on the road with a player he just met, Vernon's driving and says: "I'm going to take a shortcut". The guy says: "Do we have time?".
Lotsapapa was one of the best pure hustlers I ever saw and a great addition to any room he was in. He created action out of thin air, booked 95% winners, could sing like Marvin Gaye, and when he left town. no one was really sure how well he actually played. His passing was a loss to the pool coimmunity.
After talking to buddies who have seen everyone for the past 35 years, the consensus best unknowns are Bud Hype, Don Willis, and Jack Cooney, in our opinion. One of my friends saw Bud play back in the day and said "Champions used to drive 100 miles out of their way to steer clear of this guy". Of the "unknowns" I've personally seen, I go with the late Denny Searcy from San Francisco (he and Mike Massey are the most naturally talented players I've ever seen).
freddy the beard said:Danny gave Louie the eight and the break? Danny was a nice player, but he had no chance playing Louie even! The rationale for refusing the bite also had nothing to do with a sharp hustler's advice either. Hustlers loaned each other money so that when they got broke that might have a station to go to when they were in need. Not giving a bite to someone you just broke is not smart, it's cheap.
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frankncali said:Yeah thats him.
I have been told that he is a very good golfer as well. Is he still in the car biz?
wincardona said:Jay, Bernie Schwartz and Greg Stevens were never unknown monsters,on the contrary they were regarded by just about every one as the best during their time. Bernie beat every 9 ball champion that tried him.To name a few,Richie Florence,Eddie Kelly,Larry Hubbard,Wade Crane,Horace Harper,Ronnie Allen,Richie Ambrose,and many more.