Unknown Schon F/S

[rburgoyne]

*** SOLD ***

The wife says I have too many cues so I have decided to sell my Schon, simply because I prefer the hit of my Jacoby and Fisher cues.

Edited - Up for sale is a Schon ST20. The information I know about this is all listed in this thread - thank you fellow AZers!

Butt - 15.5oz - 29"
Shaft - 3.85oz - 29" - tip 12.2mm
Total Weight - 19.3oz
Wrap - Brown Leather
Joint - ?
Joint Protectors - None
Condition -
I found one very small ding in the forearm, but it has not broke the finish, and its very hard to see. There is also a very tiny bubble in the finish on the forearm which you can see in the picture.
The butt of the cue has several slightly visible scuffs which are easier to see in the pics than in person. You can also slightly feel the silver rings raised a little bit.
The shaft does have bluing on it, but no dings. There is a very small chip in the joint of the shaft as you can see in the picture, which doesn't affect playability.
Lastly, the "Schon" logo differs on the butt and shaft, so I am not sure if they came together or not, or if it even matters.

In short, if you are getting this for your collection, you will want to refinish the cue. If you are looking for a player, this is ready to go.

I am asking SOLD for this which includes priority mail shipping w/ insurance to CONUS. I am not interested in trades.

If for any reason you are unhappy with the cue, I will refund 100% of the cost, minus shipping fees.

Thanks for looking! :thumbup:

 

[1pRoscoe]

Price would be nice...............

 

[ComptonCustomCues]

I highly sugest you wait for evan clarke to email you......this looks like a runde era schon and a fairly high end one at that......now I could be wrong but the points are rounded and look like the runde schons........it could mean a difference in up to several thousand dollars more. Just a friendly piece of advice and hope your sale goes well

 

[FAST_N_LOOSE]

this looks like a runde era schon and a fairly high end one at that......now i could be wrong but the points are rounded and look like the runde schons........it could mean a difference in up to several thousand dollars more.

if i'm reading this correctly, you are telling the seller that it "may be runde era and worth thousands more because it has rounded points"

i hope you're kidding......

 

[ComptonCustomCues]

well it maybe worth up to a thousand more.....1500 instead of 500......I have a friend with a runde that had the butt cap broke.......he had evan replace it with a new one and kept the old butt cap with the big hand written schon in it......he wouldn't sell it for any less than 2500......and even then he wouldn't turn loose of it........and why all the hate and critiziem........he asked for opinions on this cue......you didn't give one, you just critizied my opinion. SO lets hear your opinion. And yes the rounded points....(instead of cnc points) make it very probable.

 

[ComptonCustomCues]

how ever on second glance I see the shaft is of a newer origin......so......I could be very wrong.....the butt of the cue still has the look of a older runde or early evan style schon

 

[Bamacues]

SO lets hear your opinion. And yes the rounded points....(instead of cnc points) make it very probable.

While this cue may or may not be "Runde era", it is the sharp spliced, pre-cnc Schon cues that were made by Bob Runde which bring the premium money. The cues with the rounded cnc points are much less collectible and far less valuable.

Joe

 

[FAST_N_LOOSE]

while this cue may or may not be "runde era", it is the sharp spliced, pre-cnc schon cues that were made by bob runde which bring the premium money. The cues with the rounded cnc points are much less collectible and far less valuable.

Joe

joe, you da man.

well it maybe worth up to a thousand more.....1500 instead of 500......i have a friend with a runde that had the butt cap broke.......he had evan replace it with a new one and kept the old butt cap with the big hand written schon in it......he wouldn't sell it for any less than 2500......and even then he wouldn't turn loose of it........

just because you buddy woudn't sell it for 2500, doesn't make it worth 2500. (i don't know the cue in question, so it may actually be worth 2500, but i'm just making a point.

and why all the hate and critiziem........he asked for opinions on this cue......you didn't give one, you just critizied my opinion.

no hate, a little sarcasm, but trust me...no hate.

I don't get involved in telling other people what their cues are "worth". They normally don't like the answer, and just tell me that i'm wrong (until they try and sell it, and find that i'm usually pretty close)

you have your "facts" backwards, and i found it funny. That's where the sarcasm came in.

so lets hear your opinion. And yes the rounded points....(instead of cnc points) make it very probable.

rounded points make it more likely to be a runde? Where did you get that info.......

Bob runde was at schon briefly when the switch to rounded points happen, and even the cues that were built with rounded points while he was there, aren't even really considered "runde era" like joe ssaid, the runde cues with the sharp points are the "collectable" ones.


P.s. The "rounded" points are cnc points...... The sharp pointed "runde era" cues, have actual spliced points.

 

[bogey54311]

And yes the rounded points....(instead of cnc points) make it very probable.

I'm sorry sir, but fast_n_loose is correct.
sharp points indicate "runde era".
cnc (rounded points) indicate a newer cue.
runde era cues also have maple stich rings at the joint, which yours does not have either.

cnc routers are run by computers that only have a cutting edge to give a "rounded look".

bob runde didn't use a cnc back then, hence the sharp points.

hope this helps.

good luck with your sale.


chris G<------one of the prettier schons iv'e seen in a while

 

[Nine Ball]

And yes the rounded points....(instead of cnc points) make it very probable.

You need to hit the books.

Nice Schon cue you have mister seller sir.

PM me a price and try to listen to the people who have been here a long time as far as value goes.

70% of us know cues like we were born with one in hand, 20% think they know, 5% guess, and the other 5% just like how they look. :grin:

 

[RDCustomCues]

I highly sugest you wait for evan clarke to email you......this looks like a runde era schon and a fairly high end one at that......now I could be wrong but the points are rounded and look like the runde schons........it could mean a difference in up to several thousand dollars more. Just a friendly piece of advice and hope your sale goes well

Take these guys advice and study up on cue construction.
Rounded = CNC these guys know thier stuff

 

[srs314]

He has been told.

Now that we have cleared up the round vs. sharp point Schon issue I did see a good point by jcaction2587.

I highly sugest you wait for evan clarke to email you.

Though it may not make the price difference he mentioned it would be nice to get a little more background on the cue before we suggest a price.

Just my thoughts,

 

[ComptonCustomCues]

ok.....ok I had it backwards!!!! Geezz I was close dosn't that count.....jk. I got a little confused.......and my friends schon is worth every penny on 2500. I have held and look closely at plenty of runde schons and I was just stating that this cue looks to be in the ballpark......look at the curls in the schon logo in the buttcap......not on any of the newer cues. I think the seller should wait for evan to email him before selling what could be a much more valuable cue.......god.......I will keep my head down next time.

 

[JusticeNJ]

nice cue! it certainly is a very unique looking schon. if i had any kind of disposable income whatsoever, i'd take it. good luck with the sale!

 

[FAST_N_LOOSE]

ok.....ok i had it backwards!!!! Geezz i was close dosn't that count.....jk. I got a little confused.......

close counts, but maybe you should take a little sarcasm next time, and re-read what you wrote.

and my friends schon is worth every penny on 2500. I have held and look closely at plenty of runde schons and i was just stating that this cue looks to be in the ballpark......

i wasn't saying what your buddies cue is, or isn't worth....

look at the curls in the schon logo in the buttcap......not on any of the newer cues. I think the seller should wait for evan to email him before selling what could be a much more valuable cue.......

here's one....i don't think the butt cap looks original to the cue. I would also wait for evan to reply, and then cut his estimate in half or so, and that would give you a resonable/sellable price.

god.......i will keep my head down next time.

nothing wrong with sticking your head out, just make sure what you are saying is correct/makes sense.

 

[ComptonCustomCues]

The butt cap is an older model butt cap........probably from the ninties.....I would asume if the butt cap was replaced it wouldn't be replaced by an older butt cap.....and fast and loose said it perfect.......take what evan says and cut it by 40-50% and you got it.......getting it refinished would raise the value.

 

[Ken_4fun]

joe, you da man.



just because you buddy woudn't sell it for 2500, doesn't make it worth 2500. (i don't know the cue in question, so it may actually be worth 2500, but i'm just making a point.



no hate, a little sarcasm, but trust me...no hate.

I don't get involved in telling other people what their cues are "worth". They normally don't like the answer, and just tell me that i'm wrong (until they try and sell it, and find that i'm usually pretty close)

you have your "facts" backwards, and i found it funny. That's where the sarcasm came in.



rounded points make it more likely to be a runde? Where did you get that info.......

Bob runde was at schon briefly when the switch to rounded points happen, and even the cues that were built with rounded points while he was there, aren't even really considered "runde era" like joe ssaid, the runde cues with the sharp points are the "collectable" ones.


P.s. The "rounded" points are cnc points...... The sharp pointed "runde era" cues, have actual spliced points.

I get so tired of those who know so little, making claims of what a cue is worth. My point is and has always been if you offer up a "value" you better be prepared to pay it for the cue.

Some ying-yang tells this guy its worth "thousands" and you try to make a deal on a cue and pay what it is actually worth and the guy thinks you are trying to steal something.

I honestly think that this guy wouldnt know a $2500 cue if it bit him on the a$$, and he is offering up cue values.

Just about a daily occurrance on this forum so I guess I should be used to it.

Ken

 

[Jim Baxter]

Value

Ken hit right on the head. This guy absolutly no's nothing about cues.

 

[ComptonCustomCues]

I'm going to assume ya'll are talking about me......this is why this forum can be so unpopular and its sad......because I'm trying to keep this guy from getting riped off yall are running off at the mouth about it. I know a little about cues......not an expert but I like schons.......geez.....if you ain't got nothing nice to say then shut up......

 

[eezbank]

The wife says I have too many cues so I have decided to sell my Schon, simply because I prefer the hit of my Jacoby and Fisher cues.

I emailed Schon about this cue over a month ago and again over a week ago, but I have not heard anything back on it. So I was hoping that maybe someone on here has an idea to its age and value. I have no idea so I am not listing a price until I hear some feedback. Any advice would be appreciated. Here are the specs...

Butt - 15.5oz - 29"
Shaft - 3.85oz - 29" - tip 12.2mm
Total Weight - 19.3oz
Wrap - Brown Leather
Joint - ?
Joint Protectors - None
Condition -
I found one very small ding in the forearm, but it has not broke the finish, and its very hard to see. There is also a very tiny bubble in the finish on the forearm which you can see in the picture.
The butt of the cue has several visible scuffs as seen in the pics. You can also slightly feel the silver rings raised a little bit.
The shaft does have bluing on it, but no dings.there is a very small chip in the joint of the shaft as you can see in the picture.
Lastly, the "Schon" logo differs on the butt and shaft, so I am not sure if they came together or not, or if it even matters.

Thanks for looking! :thumbup:

That's a Schon ST20 I can't find my price book but Evan at Schon can tell you what the cues retail was. Good luck!~