Waxing Pool Balls?
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I would agree with him, but I would also add that the Wax is also going to come off on you Cloth.
I personally would never wax the balls. What I have found to be excellent is any product that cleans clear plastic motorcycle windshields. Here are a few examples.
You can even cut these with a 50/50 mix of water and just put it in a spray bottle. Shake it up before you spray it on the balls.
I throw the balls in an oil change pan that I lined with some carpet, and then I just hold a cheapo Royobi polisher over them.
http://www.klr650.com/windshieldCleaner.htm
http://www.thepurplestuff.com/
http://www.properautocare.com/allklplwicl.html < haven't tried this one yet ...
http://www.properboatcare.com/meplplclpo.html < what I use now. Pep Boys has it.
You can even cut these with a 50/50 mix of water and just put it in a spray bottle. Shake it up before you spray it on the balls.
I throw the balls in an oil change pan that I lined with some carpet, and then I just hold a cheapo Royobi polisher over them.
http://www.klr650.com/windshieldCleaner.htm
http://www.thepurplestuff.com/
http://www.properautocare.com/allklplwicl.html < haven't tried this one yet ...
http://www.properboatcare.com/meplplclpo.html < what I use now. Pep Boys has it.
Probably depends on what type of wax you use. They make polish for pool balls. Just use that.
I'm not sure why you wax them, but I guess it is to prevent them to be to
dirty to quickly ?
We have a English cloth in our pool room and I guess it has more wool to it
or something. We all know that the cloth takes up chalk and stuff from cue tips
and balls but this cloth look like $hit along the rails and I would expect that
the whole table would be very bad to play on if the balls was greased in wax.
If you would like to make them ultra shiny or something, use some type of
polish which don't stick to the balls so you keep the "playing field" untouched
when you would like to spend time on you're hobby.
I would for sure not wax my setup (when I hopefully get a place to park my GCIII)
K
dirty to quickly ?
We have a English cloth in our pool room and I guess it has more wool to it
or something. We all know that the cloth takes up chalk and stuff from cue tips
and balls but this cloth look like $hit along the rails and I would expect that
the whole table would be very bad to play on if the balls was greased in wax.
If you would like to make them ultra shiny or something, use some type of
polish which don't stick to the balls so you keep the "playing field" untouched
when you would like to spend time on you're hobby.
I would for sure not wax my setup (when I hopefully get a place to park my GCIII)
K
I posted a thread about cleaning my pro cup very late last night. Since you are refering to come balls getting cleaned, you might be interested in reading it. After using the speed shine, it was smooth, shiny and played very very well. But I assume that those speed shine might have a little bit of wax in it, so I'm not sure. here is the thread:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=136630
Happy shooting!
Chino
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=136630
Happy shooting!
Chino
Well, I did not want to recommend it but if you would like to make the balls very smooth - just buy some teflon or shoe polish to put on them after cleaning.
You would make those trick shot like nothing else (banana shots) but entering
a pool tournay would make you suffer
K
You would make those trick shot like nothing else (banana shots) but entering
a pool tournay would make you suffer
K
You guys all crack me up
I use the Maguires cleaner wax to clean the balls in a Diamond ball polisher to help prevent the cloth from wearing out as fast as normal. There's no build up of "wax" as there is NO carnuba in the cleaner wax. Let me tell you something, as a table mechanic for the last 26 years, the two most destructive things that wear out the table cloth the fastest it's (1)...don't vacuum the cloth, that'll allow the dust/chalk and anything else to filter through the cloth and sand off the bottom side of the cloth long before the surface wears out, and (2)...don't clean the balls what-so-ever...and I guarantee the gritty surface of the balls will wear out the rack area on the cloth faster than you'd like to see happen. If the balls feel dirty in your hands, they're dirty on the cloth, and that dirt turns into abrasion...which is what helps wear out the cloth:wink:
Glen
PS. It's the dirt transfered by the balls that build up on the tracks in your ball return system and in the gully boots, not wax. Think about it, it's built up now...and you haven't even been using wax...LOL
I use the Maguires cleaner wax to clean the balls in a Diamond ball polisher to help prevent the cloth from wearing out as fast as normal. There's no build up of "wax" as there is NO carnuba in the cleaner wax. Let me tell you something, as a table mechanic for the last 26 years, the two most destructive things that wear out the table cloth the fastest it's (1)...don't vacuum the cloth, that'll allow the dust/chalk and anything else to filter through the cloth and sand off the bottom side of the cloth long before the surface wears out, and (2)...don't clean the balls what-so-ever...and I guarantee the gritty surface of the balls will wear out the rack area on the cloth faster than you'd like to see happen. If the balls feel dirty in your hands, they're dirty on the cloth, and that dirt turns into abrasion...which is what helps wear out the cloth:wink:Glen
PS. It's the dirt transfered by the balls that build up on the tracks in your ball return system and in the gully boots, not wax. Think about it, it's built up now...and you haven't even been using wax...LOL
I used a little car wax on my Centennials years ago. Buffed them out with a clean dry cloth. No wax residue whatsoever and they played great! The only difference was on those little soft cuts at about 30- 40 degrees that tend to throw. The waxed balls did not get that friction throw like dirty balls do. So in a way it is weird when you go into a pool room and a ball skids or throws that you didn't expect.
You guys all crack me up
Glen
PS. It's the dirt transfered by the balls that build up on the tracks in your ball return system and in the gully boots, not wax. Think about it, it's built up now...and you haven't even been using wax...LOL
Well Glen, as a designer of the Diamond ball cleaner, what happens if the balls are dirty, then cleaned in some process not including a pro machine?
Then you put some wax on it and possibly rub it with a towel or something. Do you think that all the wax is gone?
Depending on the routine of ball cleaning, I for sure see a potential of "gaga" left on the ball which is going to be "cleaned off" the balls by playing on the cloth where some cloths do the cleaning "better" than others.
Anyway, I leave the rest of the discussion to you guys, it's time to hit horizontal locally.
K
You guys all crack me up
Glen
PS. It's the dirt transfered by the balls that build up on the tracks in your ball return system and in the gully boots, not wax. Think about it, it's built up now...and you haven't even been using wax...LOL
The RKC has spoken! :thumbup:
You guys all crack me up
Glen
PS. It's the dirt transfered by the balls that build up on the tracks in your ball return system and in the gully boots, not wax. Think about it, it's built up now...and you haven't even been using wax...LOL
Well Glen, I know your reputation and have seen your work. You do know what your doing and you do your job well but wax does build up and attract more dirt. More so than just a cleaner and I agree dirt is the #1 enemy. but wax is soft. The big thing is french fries, burgers, as in oil and all that stuff, you know.
Rod
Holy Crap!!!!! We had a big tourney here in Muskogee last month, the owner got the bright idea of waxing the balls.........HOly Cow...it was on the cloth, frails, tips, cues..hands...it sucked....tourney started about 11am, and around 8pm, the tables and balls after all the use started playing right.......it sucked....i managed to scape by and get 2nd in that tourney, but dang, it was all over my cue, towel I keep to wipe off my sweat....I bet I washed my hands 20x that day...I like to keep my hands real clean and cue real clean..I had to have the shaft cleaned after that fiasco....needless to say, he said he will not ever do that again...
So I would avoid waxing your balls, or if you do, make SURE there is no wax left on them..but then again, whats the point right..lol
I say No to waxed balls!
So I would avoid waxing your balls, or if you do, make SURE there is no wax left on them..but then again, whats the point right..lol
I say No to waxed balls!
From the World Pool-Billiard Association's Equipment Specifications (also adopted by the BCA):
"Balls should be unpolished, and should also not be waxed. Balls should be cleaned with a towel or cloth free of dirt and dust, and may also be washed with soap and water. Balls contaminated with any slippery substance - treated with a polishing or rubbing compound and/or waxed - must be cleansed and dewaxed with a clean cloth moistened with diluted alcohol before play."
"Balls should be unpolished, and should also not be waxed. Balls should be cleaned with a towel or cloth free of dirt and dust, and may also be washed with soap and water. Balls contaminated with any slippery substance - treated with a polishing or rubbing compound and/or waxed - must be cleansed and dewaxed with a clean cloth moistened with diluted alcohol before play."
We play a tourny here at my house on my bar box every Friday night ... And we play here every other Sunday and alternate the other Sundays at a freinds house . Well last week he set out to impress at his house and he vacuumed his table and waxed up all his pool balls ... He had the table looking good and the balls shinning like brand new balls ... We played for hours then all this last week it seemed like all we did is miscue ... I seen my friend miscue more then I ever seen him miscue ... I was miscuing also... I use a medium Everest and he uses a soft Elkmaster and one thing you never see us do is miscue ... But this past week we miscued alot ... We were kind of wondring what was going on all of a sudden.And after reading this thread it seems like we found our answer. I don't know about effects of wax on the pool table ... But it makes good sense to me that the tip comes in contact with the cue ball and if it has wax on it , it is bound to get on your tip and glaze over causing miscues ...
Everyone has to come to thier own conclussions but this makes good sense to me ..
Everyone has to come to thier own conclussions but this makes good sense to me ..
GlenYou guys all crack me up
Glen
PS. It's the dirt transfered by the balls that build up on the tracks in your ball return system and in the gully boots, not wax. Think about it, it's built up now...and you haven't even been using wax...LOL
Wish you would post this one in the room owners forum. Seems not many owners realize the damage done and the costs incurred by not cleaning the cloth and the balls. My cloth is years old and plays much better than the local pool halls cloth that just recovered a table 30 days ago. They either don't realize it, don't care or simply lazy.
Recently I was at a joint that just got a new Gabriel 3C table. The cloth "looked" pretty clean so I decided to use my personal balls which look nearly like new. By the time I was done playing 50 points they looked like the house balls. I can play 500 points on my table before I need to polish them but they will still look 100 times better than after 50 points on a public table.
The only problem with wax is yes it does come off. It doesn't do any damage but as it wears off the game starts to change due to less slide. The products that have no wax are fine but most have no abrasives. The balls get clean but the burn marks are still there. The very best way I've found to clean and polish balls is on a bench with a thick buffing wheel and stick compound for plastic (usually white). If that's not available I'll use polishing compound from wall mart and a terry cloth.
One last edit. As far as wax causing miss cues, doesn't happen. Good chalking technique puts a barrier between the tip and the wax. Also the great masse artists like waxed up balls. Think about it.
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