What sets the market price for a cue?

Market price is set by the market. I can sell a #2 pencil for $100, but if no one buys it, it's not worth that.

Please post a pic of the pencil. It won't sell on here without a pic. I am interested. Is the eraser in good condition?
 
The cue this thread was started about was a Searing. Does Dennis's work qualify as a very high end collectors cue for you? It does for me.

If the thread was started about setting values on Dale Perry's cues I wouldn't have chimed in with George Balabushka and Gus Szamboti examples (I wouldn't have an opinion at all other than the thing is worth what someone will pay and be happy with).

Thanks again

Kevin

I believe the title of the thread was "What sets the market price for a cue? ". I was just trying to answer that question generally. If the title had been "What sets the value of custom cues so high?" I would not have responded since I don't know much about that market. Sorry if my comments annoyed you.
 
I believe the title of the thread was "What sets the market price for a cue? ". I was just trying to answer that question generally. If the title had been "What sets the value of custom cues so high?" I would not have responded since I don't know much about that market. Sorry if my comments annoyed you.

Didn't annoy me at all.

Thanks again

Kevin
 
Thats great news. I have approx 20 of them in my basement. I am a rich man now, yes?
I forgot, my name isn't Dennis. But I am a Menace.

all the pawn shops up here are littered with dufferins as well...

whowouldathunkit......dufferin cues, another exportable canadian resource!:thumbup:
 
i'm pretty sure there's some cue makers that see some of it as a cash grab, and refuse to charge more than what they think is fair for their own wares. but in the end it's all business, and sometimes it's not done as scrupulously as we all would like to think.

many years ago, there was a guy here in the province that took a couple dozen ebony and maple rack cues (snooker), sent them to a well known cuemaker to install a joint in them, clean up the shafts, ferrules, re-tip. and then sold them under the cuemakers name as customs for a very tidy sum......
 
Thanks for all the replies. I really didn't intend to cause a ruckus. Congrats to Kevin. Good luck to all of the sellers and buyers out there.

FYI...I deleted the link to the for sale thread. So all of you that quoted my OP and thought I was out of line please edit your posts and delete the link as well.
 
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That Sneakey might be the best playing cue on earth. If so $3K is a great price.

What confuses me is people that buy a cue for its inlays rather than how it plays. Yes Inlays adds cost and resale value but are you a collector or do you want a player?

If you walked by my cue you would probably just keep walking. And that's exactly what I told DD to give me. A great cue that nobody will notice from 10 feet away.
 
I believe the title of the thread was "What sets the market price for a cue? ". I was just trying to answer that question generally. If the title had been "What sets the value of custom cues so high?" I would not have responded since I don't know much about that market. Sorry if my comments annoyed you.

Our Kev gets a wee bit upset if you dare say something which may jeopardise a sale...

Fond of his cash.
 
That Sneakey might be the best playing cue on earth. If so $3K is a great price.

What confuses me is people that buy a cue for its inlays rather than how it plays. Yes Inlays adds cost and resale value but are you a collector or do you want a player?

If you walked by my cue you would probably just keep walking. And that's exactly what I told DD to give me. A great cue that nobody will notice from 10 feet away.

Nice one. I find most high end customs revolting, both in looks and monetary value. Many look like the maker's spewed onto it. I've only played with one high end custom and it hits like shit. Everyone on here says they play great, when they don't.
 
Thanks for all the replies. I really didn't intend to cause a ruckus. Congrats to Kevin. Good luck to all of the sellers and buyers out there.

FYI...I deleted the link to the for sale thread. So all of you that quoted my OP and thought I was out of line please edit your posts and delete the link as well.

Congratulations? No wonder the west is finished with such moral bankruptcy.
 
So all of you that thought I was out of line...

Your question wasn't out of line, it was a good one that no one really answered. Whenever I see one of these traditional 4-point cues with maybe a single ring at the bottom and people get all excited, call it a "MONSTER" (their emphasis) and yet all I see is a house-cue with a ring.

Saying that it's worth whatever someone will pay isn't really an answer. It's true, but doesn't answer the question of why a house cue with a joint is worth 3K, or at least why isn't it considered odd it picked up so much value? I can pick up a two-piece Dufferin house cue for $125 here, today, with a SS joint. I have a Dufferin sneaky (wood-to-wood) I paid $175 for and shot with twice. I don't think it's worth 3K either. The extra $50 compared to what I can buy now is just for that invisible joint.
 
Our Kev gets a wee bit upset if you dare say something which may jeopardise a sale...

Fond of his cash.

Kevin and I have had our differences, that's for sure. But to his defense he put the cue he mentioned on ebay and started it at $9.99. A bidding war insued and he claims he collected $4,600. If all of this is true you can't call him greedy just because of this.
 
Your question wasn't out of line, it was a good one that no one really answered. Whenever I see one of these traditional 4-point cues with maybe a single ring at the bottom and people get all excited, call it a "MONSTER" (their emphasis) and yet all I see is a house-cue with a ring.

Saying that it's worth whatever someone will pay isn't really an answer. It's true, but doesn't answer the question of why a house cue with a joint is worth 3K, or at least why isn't it considered odd it picked up so much value? I can pick up a two-piece Dufferin house cue for $125 here, today, with a SS joint. I have a Dufferin sneaky (wood-to-wood) I paid $175 for and shot with twice. I don't think it's worth 3K either. The extra $50 compared to what I can buy now is just for that invisible joint.

My question was rhetorical. You, I and many others all ready know the answer. Your answer above describes it best. Regarding Searing, I own a basic 4 point and love it. The craftsmanship is unequaled to any cue I own, period! Points are perfect and the look is beautiful. It does hit very well but I prefer the hit of my old Schon and I absolutely love the hit of my old Cog over it. Regarding the Searing Dufferin cue, I would say that if Dennis made a shaft for it and did some ring work and joint work to it that I would be a buyer at no more than $600.

Again, good luck to all of the buyers and the sellers.
 
Ernie Gutierrez actually made some bridges. I just can't remember if they were Gina original bridges or mere conversions.

I sold this cue, which is a house cue conversion made by some guy named George, on eBay for $4600 in an auction I started for$9.99 with no reserve. Not only was there one guy crazy enough to pay that, but there was a bidder right below him willing to pay $4,500. When the auction was over I got not one but 2 eMails from non-bidders saying they missed the auction and could they have the name of the guy who bought it so they could buy it from him. For some reason these guys saw more than $80 value in a converted house cue. Maybe they needed the protection of someone who really knew cue values to help them with how to think.

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Kevin

I would love to see a screenshot of that auction from E-Bay. Maybe it could be posted as the introduction page to the video of the guy running 18 racks of 10 ball and out?:smile:

JC
 
Kevin and I have had our differences, that's for sure. But to his defense he put the cue he mentioned on ebay and started it at $9.99. A bidding war insued and he claims he collected $4,600. If all of this is true you can't call him greedy just because of this.

Wonder if there was any shill bidding...
 
Wow, I have a true Dufferin sneaky pete that didn't have to go to an outside cue maker to be converted. Just what kind of ungodly sum must that be worth? Bought it around '93 when living in Hawaii, must be worth $4000+ by now. (by the way, still straight, hits fine, but use it at home with my moose head bridge)
 
Actually.....that is incorrect. Read the W/FS Forum Rules...you may not make any type of derogatory reference to asking price, within a W/FS thread. A seller can ask whatever they wish...doesn't mean they're going to get it.

As long as you have proof....you can make mention as to any knowledge as to true condition, repairs, or scam...but that's pretty much it.

You are, however, free to start another thread wishing to discuss any given cue or seller or maker, in the appropriate forum.

Lisa
All the op had to do was leave out "give me a break" and no one would have said anything. There is obviously a select few people who will pay big $$ for a name even if its on a converted bar cue and that is probably who he was referring to.
 
Kevin and I have had our differences, that's for sure. But to his defense he put the cue he mentioned on ebay and started it at $9.99. A bidding war insued and he claims he collected $4,600. If all of this is true you can't call him greedy just because of this.

Probably justifable, it was a Balabushka.....big difference in that and most cues offered today. :thumbup:
 
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