Whats The Play Here?
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It's simple. Draw five rails and get straight in on the 8 in the lower corner.
But, you knew that already.
Russ
But, you knew that already.
Russ
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Roll the 7 in with straight top. Easy does it.
You're now on the right side of the 8. Roll the 8 in and come off the rail. The natural angle brings you to the 9 and the money.
Don't overcomplicate it. K. I. S. S. is in effect.
You're now on the right side of the 8. Roll the 8 in and come off the rail. The natural angle brings you to the 9 and the money.
Don't overcomplicate it. K. I. S. S. is in effect.
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focus........
YOu HAVE to make the 7, roll it it with no or very little spin, then shoot the 8 in either side, or corner at the other end- I hate side pockets-
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Where you play the 8 will be determined by the speed which you feel comfortable MAKING the 7. Then back up for the 9, likely draw or a natural stun/ drift.
Unless it is 8b
.Where you play the 8 will be determined by the speed which you feel comfortable MAKING the 7. Then back up for the 9, likely draw or a natural stun/ drift.
Unless it is 8b
Here's a pretty easy one I've seen pros do over and over:
It's simple and comfortable.
It's simple and comfortable.
Hierovision said:
Hey Hiero,
This is the type of pattern you should try to avoid OR be very careful about. Playing for the 8-ball in the top right corner can be a bit tricky since if you don't fall right, you won't be able to position for the 9-ball while pocketing the 8. If you do take this route, it's important to make sure you attain an angle that will allow you to proceed toward the 9 otherwise, I would recommend playing the 8-ball in the side since it appears to be a bit easier maintaining the necessary angle to get out.
play the 8 in the side. That's all that should be said. Rather elementary.
Several easier routes than drawing below the 8. If you over draw, then you have a weird angle and have to load up with right english to play off that rail and get on the 9. If you undershoot too much, then the shot gets harder. Why go through all this potential trouble?
Just pocket the 7 with a soft low center ball hit, and dependent upon the speed of the table (you decide this yourself) play the 8 in either of the two side pockets, depending on which side you want to play for. From there - either way you're laying on the correct angle to easily get on that 9 (by playing one rail or drawing straight to the end rail, again depending on your angle) which looks to be in the dead center of the top rail. And, if you over shoot your mark for the side pocket you'll have a good shot in either bottom corner (depending on your selection/position) to pocket the ball and soft draw to the end-rail by the 9. The balls are so close, this is a definite easy out...but keep it simple.
This is what I would do.
Just pocket the 7 with a soft low center ball hit, and dependent upon the speed of the table (you decide this yourself) play the 8 in either of the two side pockets, depending on which side you want to play for. From there - either way you're laying on the correct angle to easily get on that 9 (by playing one rail or drawing straight to the end rail, again depending on your angle) which looks to be in the dead center of the top rail. And, if you over shoot your mark for the side pocket you'll have a good shot in either bottom corner (depending on your selection/position) to pocket the ball and soft draw to the end-rail by the 9. The balls are so close, this is a definite easy out...but keep it simple.
This is what I would do.
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Black-Balled said:YOu HAVE to make the 7, roll it it with no or very little spin, then shoot the 8 in either side, or corner at the other end- I hate side pockets-
Where you play the 8 will be determined by the speed which you feel comfortable MAKING the 7. Then back up for the 9, likely draw or a natural stun/ drift.
Unless it is 8b
I agree with Black-balled, I'd try to play it like this (page 1). Then if you're on the right side of the 8, page 2 shows easy follow position. If you get on the wrong side, page 3 shows less optimal, but still pretty easy draw position. If you get way on the wrong side of it, it goes in the corner, and page 4 shows easy stun position. But for the shot on the 7 I'm most definitely using medium-soft speed with natural rolling ball to get where I diagrammed.
-Andrew
Andrew Manning said:
I agree with this pattern. It allows you to put a full stroke on the 7 with a 100% good outcome. Try to ease the 7 in and shoot the 8 in the other side may cause you to let up on your stroke and miss the 7. Then the 8 goes in the side and you are perfect on the nine. JMO.
Southpaw
I'm more comfortable with my response. I always end up with a super-thin cut on the 9 with Andrew's solution because of the numerous pitfalls in my game at this point lol. I have the control to bring the CB back at the right speed and I'm MUCH more comfortable shooting in the corner than the side.
Of course, if you don't land the ball right in that zone. Or more importantly, if someone else tries your layout and they don't fall into that right zone, then they'll suffer the consequences dearly.Hierovision said:
But, if someone else attempts it the way that has been laid out by BlackBalled and Andrew, then if the cue ball falls out of the initially desired zone, then there are at least a couple of other zones it could be in, and still allow for a reasonable out.
Nobody shoots perfect. So they won't fall into the ideal zone 100% of the time. Thus, it can be very useful to have some fallback positions available.
Of course, you (Hiero) may feel more comfortable shooting it the way you do. So to each their own... Pool does allow for options.
I like Blackballed and Andrew's shot except that I would want to hit it a little firmer and use the extra rail as shown. I don't want to take any chances on getting too close to the side rail, and I used to have problems with that until I heard Buddy Hall say (in commentary on Accu-stats) that often the best way to avoid being on a rail is to bounce off of it. Furthermore, going this way allows me to stroke the ball with a little more accuracy. The key is not to undercut that seven ball!
If I get to position A I would prefer to draw or stun draw the cue to the bottom rail. I think the percentages are simply much higher that way. The curved cue ball path from the eight ball to the bottom rail, as well as the visible tangent lines, are there to ensure that everyone is aware that you can't just stun the shot over. There must be some draw.
If I get to position A I would prefer to draw or stun draw the cue to the bottom rail. I think the percentages are simply much higher that way. The curved cue ball path from the eight ball to the bottom rail, as well as the visible tangent lines, are there to ensure that everyone is aware that you can't just stun the shot over. There must be some draw.
Johnson said:
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But do it in ONE SHOT!
Eric.