Who are the top five players in your state?

alinco said:
Maryland
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Mike Davis
Jerry Slivka (just moved here I think)
Ryan McCreesh
Shaun Wilkie
Brian O'Donnell and Danny Green (neither play much anymore)
Andy

I like everyone you posted and I think I have played them all. But I would take Tom Vanover (Cigar Tom) over almost any one of them in an even race.

I haven't seen him play in a couple of years, but Cigar Tom is definately top 5 in the area. I know he doesn't play in the Planet Pool Tournaments because of work, I believe, but he would place or win a lot of them if he did.

Another good player not mentioned in the area is Kevin West. He is as good or nearly as good as everyone on the above list.

The above list is a very good representation of the area, as they are all extremely strong players, but I would definately put Tom Vanover above them. Kevin West is debatable, but he plays strong.
 
BackPocket9Ball said:
In PA:

1) Pat McNally
2) Gerry Slivka
3) Bob Maidhoff
4) Jimmy Fusco
5) Pete Fusco

Close behind: Dave Daya, Billy Kirschner, Kevin Clark, Mike Miller, Nick Mannino


Josh Brothers should be on this list, IMO. Perhaps Eddy Abraham, as well.
 
JDB said:
I like everyone you posted and I think I have played them all. But I would take Tom Vanover (Cigar Tom) over almost any one of them in an even race.

I haven't seen him play in a couple of years, but Cigar Tom is definately top 5 in the area. I know he doesn't play in the Planet Pool Tournaments because of work, I believe, but he would place or win a lot of them if he did.

Another good player not mentioned in the area is Kevin West. He is as good or nearly as good as everyone on the above list.

The above list is a very good representation of the area, as they are all extremely strong players, but I would definately put Tom Vanover above them. Kevin West is debatable, but he plays strong.

I'm posting under Keith's account because my newly acquired AzBilliards membership as JAM is in "moderation queue." :p

Twenty years ago or more, the BEST players in the "immediate" Maryland/D.C. area were Cigar Tom Vanover, Strawberry, the late Michael "Geese" Gerace, youngsters Timmy Crown and Stu Levy, the late Steve Gumphreys before he got married and moved, Bus Driver Ronnie, Bobby Hawk and Quick Vic, Tom-Tom Wirth, Freddy and Scottie Boggs, Nate and his Uncle Jake, and Korean Lee. Baltimore, in particular, had the majority of good players, and the action always began after midnight at the old Bill and Billie's in Glen Burnie, Maryland, now named "Jack and Jills." Linda Haywood (now Linda Shea) was the best lady pro and maintained the title of Maryland State Champ for years.

Cigar Tom enjoys a sterling reputation as a great player to this day and has a good following. Whenever he plays, there is always a huge crowd. He still plays by appointment at Running Out Billiards in Dundalk, Maryland. I saw him play a guy a few years ago at Hot Shots on Pulaski Highway for a few jellybeans, and the table was surrounded by onlookers, to include me! :cool:

Cigar Tom always played with a very narrow shaft, like a pencil, claiming that he could execute more english on his shots. He has a brother who lives in Texas, I think, who is also a strong player. The last Maryland State Championship held in Maryland was in 1986 at Champion Billiards in Silver Spring. Ironically, it was won by Mike Sigel, a Towson resident at that time, the same year "The Color of Money" came out. Cigar Tom came in second, and Ted Wilson third.

Today, if I had to pick the best players in D.C., I can think of only two that come to mind, Jack McGinnis and Keith McCready! :D

Currently in Maryland, my picks for best players would be Ryan "Genie Man" McCreesh, UPA Touring Pro Mike Davis, Shawn "The Shirt" Wilkie, Gerry Slivka who recently moved to the Baltimore area, and Bobby Hawk. Mark "Donut Man" Ford has recently made a strong comeback (IMO) after taking a small hiatus. Bus Driver Ronnie, Ed Gast, Cigar Tom, Strawberry, Left-Handed Ronnie, Don Gibson, Sterling, Bobby Leggs, and Tom-Tom Wirth can still be seen around town occasionally. I just saw Bobby Leggs last week playing on the front table at Hot Shots during the day.

In Virginia, my picks for best players would be Young Gun Pookie, APA Champion Jim "Shorty" Henson, Jimmy Mack, Billy Stephens, Richmond's Larry Kressel, Virginia State 9-Ball Champ Chris Laur, and much to my surprise at a couple of recent tournaments, AzBilliards' own Water Koch from Manassas.

Kevin West (I think) is from Delaware and always is a strong contender in any tournament I've seen him play. He doesn't get to compete as much as he would like because he is dedicated to his family business of a chicken farm. I remember him telling me one time that he was unable to make a Planet Pool 9-ball tourney because it was egg-hatching time. Kevin West is definitely capable of beating any of the above-referenced players on any given day. Here's a picture of Ralf Souquet, Keith, and Kevin West.

JAM
 

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Smorgass Bored said:
I don't have any stories about Brian Atchley, but he was pictured on the cover of the fourth issue of The Snap magazine in 1990, which included an article about him. Perhaps someone can post the article. Maybe JAM, I know that she has that issue.. (hey Keith, wake up JAM)

Hi, Smorgie! :) While in "moderation queue," I have to post under KM's account.

You are referring to the February/March 1990 issue of "The Snap," with Brian Atchley on the cover, entitled "Barron of the Bar Box." The article about him within the magazine entitled "Atchley Wins Tennessee State 9-Ball Championship" written by "Kreole" Freddie details an event held at the Chattanooga Billiard Club, promoted by Phil Windham, on December 1st and 2nd [1989 (?)]. The TD was Rosie Zarzour, and the 3-day event "drew outstanding MPBA" -- (what is that?) -- "players Buddy Hall, Keith McCready, Scott Kitto, and Brian Atchley." The final standings were Brian Atchley came in first, Larry Price second, Keith third, and Buddy Hall fourth.

Highlight of the final match: "The stage was then set and the two final players pulled in all their reserves to give the packed crowd an ending they would not forget. The first set was all Larry Price as he got out from impossible positions and broke the balls with thunderous success. The score: 9-6 Price. As the players prepared for the second set, the excitement and tension in the air was sliceable. The score was knotted five games apiece when the 29-year-old Atchley showed why he is becoming a player to be reckoned with in any league. Twice he made seemingly impossible three-rail breakouts and proceeded to win the game. The two 9-balls on the snap in a row gave him a commanding 8-5 lead in the set. The final score was 9-5 as Larry dejectedly acknowledged that the roof had fallen in...."

JAM
 
Keith McCready said:
Hi, Smorgie! :)
The TD was Rosie Zarzour, and the 3-day event "drew outstanding MPBA" -- (what is that?) --

JAM

Hi JAM,
MPBA stands for Men`s professional Billiard Association which was then headed by Allen Hopkins.This was right after the women pulled away and formed their own association.Cheers
vagabond
 
JDB said:
Josh Brothers should be on this list, IMO. Perhaps Eddy Abraham, as well.

I agree that Josh is a phenomenal player, but i also think that part of his success on that Hampton Ridge tour, is that they no longer draw any "players" to their tournaments.

The average field is 16 to 20 players. (down from 40-60 on the last tour)Ever since Leon killed the last tour, there hasn't been that much turnout for their events with a couple of exceptions.

They also have a staggered entry fee posted on their flyers for "pros".
Some of the (pro) players that used to be regulars from the other tours that were going on before, haven't made the effort to participate.
Why pay $100 to play vs. $60 dollars for someone else.
Plus there is that whole "who gets to determine WHO is a pro and who isn't garbage" that players don't want to deal with.

And because of that, a lot of the players don't bother, and as a result, the turnout and payouts are lower, which stops a lot of other people from playing cause it ends up not being worth it.

Although Josh is pretty sharp. He knows all this, and fully takes advantage of the situation, as he should. Going to just about every stop.

He is by far the dominant player on that tour this year. But i think the publics VIEW is slightly off, caused they don't know all the facts.
They just see him winning, and don't know that the depth of the field isn't what it used to be.

If the players that USED to come out, decided to come out in full force again, Josh despite his ability, would be hard pressed to dominate the tour like he has.

There would be too much talent, instead of a lack of it.
 
JDB said:
Josh Brothers should be on this list, IMO. Perhaps Eddy Abraham, as well.

Based on her track record in men's regional tour play, including a win, a second, and many other high finishes on the Joss tour, I'd have to say I consider Karen Corr to be among Pennsylvania's five best.

Aslo, I may be wrong on this, but I think Eddy Abraham is from South New Jersey.
 
Keith McCready said:
I'm posting under Keith's account because my newly acquired AzBilliards membership as JAM is in "moderation queue." :p

Great Post but too long to quote
JAM

You obviously know the area well. I like Mark Ford's game, but I don't rate it with the others, which is no knock on Mark's game. He is a strong player, but just not in the elite group, IMO. I haven't seen his game in a year or two because I moved, so he may be there now.

However, since Mark was mentioned, I will have to mention another strong player in the area, Tony Long who plays out of Hotshots in Baltimore. He is a threat in any tournament he plays.
 
Native Washingtonian

JDB said:
You obviously know the area well. I like Mark Ford's game, but I don't rate it with the others, which is no knock on Mark's game. He is a strong player, but just not in the elite group, IMO. I haven't seen his game in a year or two because I moved, so he may be there now.

However, since Mark was mentioned, I will have to mention another strong player in the area, Tony Long who plays out of Hotshots in Baltimore. He is a threat in any tournament he plays.

Hi, JDB. This is JAM here posting while I'm in "moderation queue." :)

Mark "Donut Man" Ford showed some speed (IMO) with his recent wins on the Planet Pool 9-Ball Tour after a brief hiatus. He beat Kid Delicious and a few other strong shooters and seemed to have an extra bounce in his step exuding confidence, which I hadn't seen before.

I spoke to Sonny (owner of Hot Shots) last week and inquired about Tony Long, and he said he hasn't seen him in a long while. Tony always showed no fear and would play anybody, but I believe he's a working man now and is MIA currently on the pool scene.

I wanted to add these photos to this thread about great players in Maryland. Don't have any digital photos, but I took a group shot with my digital camera. From left to right, Mike Sigel winning the '86 Maryland State 9-Ball Championship, Cigar Tom Vanover placing second, Teddy Bear Wilson coming in third, and I cannot leave out Michael "Geese" Gerace, photo taken with a younger JAM, 18 years ago! :eek:

JAM
 

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Superstroke said:
And because of that, a lot of the players don't bother, and as a result, the turnout and payouts are lower, which stops a lot of other people from playing cause it ends up not being worth it.

Hi Superstroke,

I came down and played in a couple of events last year before the change in Tour name. For someone like me, it was a two day investment for one afternoons play. I left late on Saturday afternoon. Made the five hour drive. Stayed in the Super 8 motel. Played the event. If I'd have won another match, I would have had to stay another night or drive home near midnight or after. I needed to finish fourth or higher just to break even with the expenses. Too much for not enough. Nice guy tour director though. Moved players through the events quickly without a shot clock or threats of one.
 
I don't even know 5 players in Arizona. LOL. I'm sure they're out there but they don't come through this hick town.
 
midwikkid said:
Missouri
-Andy Quinn
-Chuck Raulston
-Darren Evvertt
-Martin Warren
-Michael Banks

I don't live in MO but I would think that Danny Harriman could find a place on the list....

Also, someone listed Tommy Kennedy on a GA list. I don't live in the southeast anymore but I've always known Tommy to live in FL.

I didn't see a NC list but if someone knows the players there and could make a list, I would suggest putting Tony Watson at the top of that list...
 
TK does live in Georgia, at least he did as of May

North Carolina

1 Earl Strickland
2 Tony Watson
3 BJ Ussery
4 Sparky Ferrule
5 Gerry Brock
 
NorthCarolinian said:
TK does live in Georgia, at least he did as of May

North Carolina

1 Earl Strickland
2 Tony Watson
3 BJ Ussery
4 Sparky Ferrule
5 Gerry Brock

How about Michael Coltrain?
 
Timberly said:
I don't live in MO but I would think that Danny Harriman could find a place on the list....

Also, someone listed Tommy Kennedy on a GA list. I don't live in the southeast anymore but I've always known Tommy to live in FL.

I didn't see a NC list but if someone knows the players there and could make a list, I would suggest putting Tony Watson at the top of that list...
Danny told me a while back he is back in Springfield so I would totally agree with you.
Tommy Kennedy for the past few years has lived in south Georgia near Savannah.
I would have written the Missouri list a little differently when I lived there a few years ago, but I don't know who is hitting them how now, so I can't make a current Missouri list, but Danny has to be near the top of the list if not top.
 
sjm said:
How about Michael Coltrain?

Wade Crane is from North Carolina (I think), and he got the first-ever perfect Accu-Stats 1000 score on record.

Other fine North Carolinean players: Frank Tulles, Jack Stenner, and Sam Monday.

I believe Keith Bennett is from North Carolina, too, and at the recent 2004 U.S. Open in Virginia Beach, he had a great tournament, beating many topnotch players. He is a young gun, full of ambition and desire, and plays hard.

Picture of Keith Bennett, Bobby Pickle, and the other Keith. :)

JAM (still in AzBilliards "moderation queue")
 

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Keith McCready said:
I'm posting under Keith's account because my newly acquired AzBilliards membership as JAM is in "moderation queue." :p

In Virginia, my picks for best players would be Young Gun Pookie, APA Champion Jim "Shorty" Henson, Jimmy Mack, Billy Stephens, Richmond's Larry Kressel, Virginia State 9-Ball Champ Chris Laur, and much to my surprise at a couple of recent tournaments, AzBilliards' own Water Koch from Manassas.
JAM

JAM! Imagine my surprise to see me listed with those top level players! And you can tell by my name that I am asking for the 8 from all those other guys! But I thank you for your vote and hope I can live up to your nod this weekend at the Planet pool tournament in ARnold MD. See you and Evil there! Hay did you change my name so I can run out like water? I hope so!
Bye Walter.
 
Keith mentioned several other top players from NC, a couple of more would be Bruce Bullard, Larry Faulk, Johnny Griffin, and Robert Ray.

Coltrain is still one of the top 10 or 15 in North Carolina even with his well known condition.

Not sure if Wade Crane is from NC but he is too scared to play nine ball with anyone of the players listed from NC on this thread and many others as well, one pocket is a different story however.
 
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Smorgass Bored said:
Florida:
Buddy Hall
Mike Sigel
Nick Varner
John Schmidt
Tied for 5th:
Charlie Williams
Tony Crosby
Ray Martin
Richie Richeson
Honorable Mention:
Steve Mizerak

Doug, heard Ron Wiseman moved to Fl.
 
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