Who is the winner in this One Pocket Scenario? PLEASE HELP

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ChrisBanks

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Here is a story that played out earlier tonight at a local pool room.......

Two players have entered into a game of one pocket. The score is 7-1, yet the balls are uptable and the game is not over yet.

An announcement comes that the pool room will be closing in 10 minutes. At this point in time, both players decide that the game may not finish in time, but they keep playing.

The player leading in the game has decided he will no longer put in his full effort, since the game may not end in time anyway. While the trailing player is still trying on every shot.

All of a sudden, the score is 7-4. As other tables begin to pack up, the player that is leading rakes the balls, thus ending the game.

The other player (myself) contends that raking the balls is a loss of game. However, my opponent claims that he quit trying when there was only 10 minutes left, so he has won the game.

Both sides have a good argument. So, who do you think deserved to be awarded a victory in the game?
 
ChrisBanks said:
At this point in time, both players decide that the game may not finish in time, but they keep playing
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Your question would make sense had you not included the above vague quote.

So you both had the wherewithal to address this issue without continuing this discussion and also determine a solution had the game not finished within the ten minutes. Which it didn't.

You lose.
 
the game has to be a draw if the place closes on you. but if one player closes out the game when there was --still time left--- without asking he loses.

it probably doesnt matter as neither side is going to pay off. and rightly so.
 
Sounds to me like there was no money involved. If this is the case, the leading player did the right thing, so he could go home and sleep.
 
If there was money involved and he suddenly raked the balls without asking what your thoughts were about continuing another day, well that's odd.

If no money was involved, who cares? You won! You won 20 games because of his foul, you won 100 games because you are cool!

I can't imagine this scenario happening if money was involved and could care less who the winner was if money wasn't involved.

By the way, thanks for another post with absolutely zero information, just another question that you can then argue with posted replies. Obvious troll is obvious.
 
ChrisBanks said:
Here is a story that played out earlier tonight at a local pool room.......

Two players have entered into a game of one pocket. The score is 7-1, yet the balls are uptable and the game is not over yet.

An announcement comes that the pool room will be closing in 10 minutes. At this point in time, both players decide that the game may not finish in time, but they keep playing.

The player leading in the game has decided he will no longer put in his full effort, since the game may not end in time anyway. While the trailing player is still trying on every shot.

All of a sudden, the score is 7-4. As other tables begin to pack up, the player that is leading rakes the balls, thus ending the game.

The other player (myself) contends that raking the balls is a loss of game. However, my opponent claims that he quit trying when there was only 10 minutes left, so he has won the game.

Both sides have a good argument. So, who do you think deserved to be awarded a victory in the game?
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another d bag move. you never change. You knew time might run out and you are making a move. You should be happy he stopped trying and didn't beat you before the time ran out.
 
I would have said if the game is not over by the time the clock runs down then the game is null and void, we can play again tomorrow. The player needing 1 ball had ten minutes to get his last ball too and unless they are really slow players I am sure he had a shot to win. I could not see having someone pay me when I am leading 7 to whatever because I have seen plenty of instances where a guy needing 1 loses the game when someone grinds back or they foul now needing two balls.
 
ChrisBanks said:
Here is a story that played out earlier tonight at a local pool room.......

Two players have entered into a game of one pocket. The score is 7-1, yet the balls are uptable and the game is not over yet.

An announcement comes that the pool room will be closing in 10 minutes. At this point in time, both players decide that the game may not finish in time, but they keep playing.

The player leading in the game has decided he will no longer put in his full effort, since the game may not end in time anyway. While the trailing player is still trying on every shot.

All of a sudden, the score is 7-4.

Wait a minute here, somethings here dont make sense, you say u r losing 7-1 and the player with 7 says there isnt enough time left for him to win, but somehow you get 4balls, well if there was enough time for you to get 4balls there sure was enough time for your opponet to get just 1ball for him to win, another thing that doesnt add up you just said the place is closing in 10mins and all balls are up table, there is no way in hell you pocketed 3balls playing 1pocket in less then 10 mins with all balls up table, i hate to say this but i dont believe this happen at all and you must of dreamed of this while you were asleep and posted this after you woke up!
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if yall are gambling and a guy rakes the balls he loses the game.Plain and simple.Unless the place kicked yall out.One player cant just decide he can quit the game even if he is way ahead in the ball count.
I was playing a guy the other day and he owed 2 balls but neither of us had pocketed a ball yet so all 15 were on the table still..He quit and insisted he could do that because no balls had been pocketed yet.Ha ha ppl are funny sometimes..
 
Would have been OK with 8 minutes left, but 10 is just crazy talk.

How did the conversation not progress to 'what are we going to do if the game is not finished when they close'?
 
I dont know but please do what you can to make it difficult for either of these guys to reproduce. Thanks
 
Hi i am in akron,ohio and a man called tom owner of ball busster billiards
is looking for action so call him for a game of one pocket if you are in the
akron,ohio area 330_786_9655

and at fiddlestix billiards ask for chris and ben for action at
330_498_8422
 
richiebalto said:
ChrisBanks said:
Here is a story that played out earlier tonight at a local pool room.......

Two players have entered into a game of one pocket. The score is 7-1, yet the balls are uptable and the game is not over yet.

An announcement comes that the pool room will be closing in 10 minutes. At this point in time, both players decide that the game may not finish in time, but they keep playing.

The player leading in the game has decided he will no longer put in his full effort, since the game may not end in time anyway. While the trailing player is still trying on every shot.

All of a sudden, the score is 7-4.

Wait a minute here, somethings here dont make sense, you say u r losing 7-1 and the player with 7 says there isnt enough time left for him to win, but somehow you get 4balls, well if there was enough time for you to get 4balls there sure was enough time for your opponet to get just 1ball for him to win, another thing that doesnt add up you just said the place is closing in 10mins and all balls are up table, there is no way in hell you pocketed 3balls playing 1pocket in less then 10 mins with all balls up table, i hate to say this but i dont believe this happen at all and you must of dreamed of this while you were asleep and posted this after you woke up!
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Good catch :) He does that a lot.... makes up scenario's, and puts himself in them like he is an actor/pool god type guy.... most of his stories just don't add up..... but maybe it gest lonely at the asylum :)

and of course, the other guy only needs one buy some how just "gives up" cause we all know how hard it is to bank one ball in 1P for the win when your opponent still needs 7 !! Geez, if he hits 1 bank out of 7 he wins the friggin game... maybe not the strategy normally, but with 10 minutes to go, I'm ending it right now :)
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Seems pretty straightforward. Both players agreed to keep playing to see if they could finish up before the room closes. If it's crystal clear the room staff wants them out of here, like "turn in the balls gentlemen." ...then it didn't happen so they write that game off.

If the staff is leaving them alone and letting them shoot, then the match is still on. So raking the balls = losing.

It would be a little sleazy is if the winning player exploits the ten minutes to take a free shot at the win - basically knowing you're unlikely to get out in ten minutes, so he might win or draw but he can't lose.

I bet if he made his 8th ball, he would not have said "nah, we're not gonna count that win, I was just messing around."
 
If you are playing a game of one pocket at 12:54am and the score is 3 to 1 in balls but while getting ready to shoot, your opponent bends over the table and a hair falls from his head and lands on the cue ball, do you call a foul or pick up the hair and glue it back on his head when he isn't paying attention?
 
MahnaMahna said:
If you are playing a game of one pocket at 12:54am and the score is 3 to 1 in balls but while getting ready to shoot, your opponent bends over the table and a hair falls from his head and lands on the cue ball, do you call a foul or pick up the hair and glue it back on his head when he isn't paying attention?
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That just mite be his next thread, we can only hope not!
 
ChicagoRJ said:
richiebalto said:
Good catch :) He does that a lot.... makes up scenario's, and puts himself in them like he is an actor/pool god type guy.... most of his stories just don't add up..... but maybe it gest lonely at the asylum :)

and of course, the other guy only needs one buy some how just "gives up" cause we all know how hard it is to bank one ball in 1P for the win when your opponent still needs 7 !! Geez, if he hits 1 bank out of 7 he wins the friggin game... maybe not the strategy normally, but with 10 minutes to go, I'm ending it right now :)
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Are you kidding? How good are you at scoring straight backs when you're welded to the rail?

If my opponent needs 1 he is lucky if he ever sees another shot at his hole again.
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At the precise moment the pool room closed the unfinished game would have been either: (1) forfeited by the player with the lesser score, or (2) considered a stalemate and resumed at a later date.
In the real world, I think Lenny had the best answer. :smile:
 
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