Dippy Dave, maybe a couple aforementioned as a distant second and so on
Who was/is best all around pool player, still alive today?
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I've always been mesmerized by Efren's play in any pool game and I'm biased about one pocket as well.
Upon reading the WINS and TITLES that Nick Varner accumulated over his lifetime in various disciplines, I think I may have allowed my bias to run amuck.
The serious spanking that Nick gave to Efren in his own home town at 9 ball speaks volumes about Nick's rotational skills.
I watched Nick Varner at an advanced age a few years back in Denver, Colorado where he had the cue ball doing his bidding match after match. I never got the chance to watch him play in his prime but reading his wins and titles just blows my mind.
Unfortunately, I didn't have a chance to witness Nick's game in his prime but his titles hold testament for his skills.
Has Efren ever won a world straight pool championship?
Just curious.
JoeyA
Upon reading the WINS and TITLES that Nick Varner accumulated over his lifetime in various disciplines, I think I may have allowed my bias to run amuck.
The serious spanking that Nick gave to Efren in his own home town at 9 ball speaks volumes about Nick's rotational skills.
I watched Nick Varner at an advanced age a few years back in Denver, Colorado where he had the cue ball doing his bidding match after match. I never got the chance to watch him play in his prime but reading his wins and titles just blows my mind.
Unfortunately, I didn't have a chance to witness Nick's game in his prime but his titles hold testament for his skills.
Has Efren ever won a world straight pool championship?
Just curious.
JoeyA
C'mon now, I have it on good authority that he was afraid to play ATM.
Now thats something only us locals would understand.
In 1991 Billiards Digest asked a bunch of players at a tournament about this. The games considered were 14.1, nine ball and one pocket.
i think that picture sums it all up. as the op said, efren was the best all around player to ever live, if not the best in each discipline.
those three take the cake for 2nd, 3rd and 4th. probably varner, hopkins and sigel in that order. varner and hopkins get top billing because of one pocket, as far as 9-ball and 14.1, it’s a photo.
although, it would be hard to argue not putting shane in one of those spots.
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I had the pleasure of seeing Sigel play in his prime a lot. He was the best I have seen. Nick Varner is right there as well. I remember Nick coming through Miami and putting on a show. He was another guy I could watch all day. 1 Sigel, 1A Varner
It goes unnoticed, Jim.
Looks like people have forgotten about, Harold Worst! NO one wanted to play him for the CHEESE back in the days of Johnston City! Playing ANY game, including snooker or 3 cush!
If He'd lived longer, He'd be the BIG favorite!
If He'd lived longer, He'd be the BIG favorite!
I don't think there can really be a debate ... Efren, even past his prime is just awesome!
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Efren will be my choice. Won 5 DCC All-around after the age of 45, a feat that may never be duplicated again. And as much as he dominated in many pool games for a long time, it's a shame that most people never got to see him play 15-ball rotation in his prime. Not Parica, Bustamante, Orcollo and other non-Filipino pool greats in their prime would have beaten Reyes in his prime in that game. He was the king of this game in the Philippines for over 3 decades.
C'mon now, I have it on good authority that he was afraid to play ATM.
Bring me up to speed on the ATM comment, here or PM. :smile:
JoeyA
Could be, if all time. The original thread question was, still alive, which excludes Worst, hence the debate.
All the best,
WW
44, 49, 50, 52, 55
I asked Varner one time about the top 50 list and him being voted as the 14th greatest player and his exact words were 14th really then all I can say is its obvious that list wasn't voted on by Professional pool players.
this list is total horseshit.....lol
It’s as “quality” as a rolling stone guitar and drummer countdown.....
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Americans were the one who called Reyes The Magician. when I hear top US players commenting live on Reyes matches, they don't even know what Reyes will do and you say there are better than him?