who wins

[sfleinen]

New pool lingo -- "gangsta"

i dont think many people on az really know what a gangsta alex is playing any game for money.

"Gangsta"? I have to "learn me" some of this new-fangled lingo. If someone really brings their game, and for a long haul (long set) for large sums of money, he/she is known as a "gangsta."

How do I do that signing thing with the fingers? You know, some fingers closed, others open, splayed very widely, and with the wrist bent to point those fingers down towards the floor? And, one has to bob that contorted wrist/fingers thingie up and down to the beat, all the while using the other hand to hold up those pants 15 sizes too big, crotch dragging on the floor, and the pant legs crumpled up like Slinkies?



J/K,
-Sean

 

[Island Drive]

i say play 12 ahead every day for a week.
then you will know who plays better.

Lassiter was the first person I heard tell this to his opponent, and it was back during the Johnson City tourney 1968-69. He would tell his opponent before they started play how long he'd go before bedtime, but he'd gladly come back the next day and play again, tho for no more than 16 hours. Thats good business.

 

[Celtic]

i say play 12 ahead every day for a week.
then you will know who plays better.

If you play a single 12 ahead set, but only play 9am-12pm, take an hour for lunch, and then play 1pm-4pm, and then take the rest of the day off, and do so until there is a winner, I am guessing alot of people would have a better chance of beating you then playing a 16 hour marathon each day.

Truth is Chris it is not only your playing ability that helps you beat people. You have more stamina and the ability to stay focused for long periods of time better then most people and you simply wear your opponent out.

Some people are like Tyson, they are quick and strong at the start but they wear out in the later rounds. You would be like Ali in the Foreman fight, ducking, weaving, eating some shots, and doing what it takes to stay in the fight until the later rounds, and then when you opponent is exhausted and punched out you go in for the kill.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nGhNq8uHpg

Foreman was partly knocked out, partly passed out from exhaustion.

 

[real bartram]

If you play a single 12 ahead set, but only play 9am-12pm, take an hour for lunch, and then play 1pm-4pm, and then take the rest of the day off, and do so until there is a winner, I am guessing alot of people would have a better chance of beating you then playing a 16 hour marathon each day.

Truth is Chris it is not only your playing ability that helps you beat people. You have more stamina and the ability to stay focused for long periods of time better then most people and you simply wear your opponent out.

Some people are like Tyson, they are quick and strong at the start but they wear out in the later rounds. You would be like Ali in the Foreman fight, ducking, weaving, eating some shots, and doing what it takes to stay in the fight until the later rounds, and then when you opponent is exhausted and punched out you go in for the kill.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nGhNq8uHpg

Foreman was partly knocked out, partly passed out from exhaustion.

you might be right here.
then play race to 50 first on to win 6 sets one set a day.

 

[sfleinen]

If you play a single 12 ahead set, but only play 9am-12pm, take an hour for lunch, and then play 1pm-4pm, and then take the rest of the day off, and do so until there is a winner, I am guessing alot of people would have a better chance of beating you then playing a 16 hour marathon each day.

Truth is Chris it is not only your playing ability that helps you beat people. You have more stamina and the ability to stay focused for long periods of time better then most people and you simply wear your opponent out.

Some people are like Tyson, they are quick and strong at the start but they wear out in the later rounds. You would be like Ali in the Foreman fight, ducking, weaving, eating some shots, and doing what it takes to stay in the fight until the later rounds, and then when you opponent is exhausted and punched out you go in for the kill.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nGhNq8uHpg

Foreman was partly knocked out, partly passed out from exhaustion.

Celtic:

I couldn't agree with you more. To "do" 16 straight hours of pool is simply a very unique (and very particular) skill and talent. Personally, I couldn't do it. I'm all of 150 lbs soaking wet, and if I don't eat regularly -- for me that means every 5 hours because I have a runner's build with a fast metabolism -- my tank goes empty, and I literally start to hallucinate from hunger, nevermind the pain of the hunger pangs themselves.

I'm thinking the type of marathon sessions that Chris excels at, could be a fantastic weight loss program. It would *have* to be -- if one isn't going to eat for 16 hours at a clip, one must have some kind of "reserve" on his/her body to live on, as well as to supply the mind with.

Chris, how in the world do you do it? Do you have a stomach tube that leads to a food pouch hidden on your body somewhere?

-Sean

 

[Ktown D]

Celtic:

I couldn't agree with you more. To "do" 16 straight hours of pool is simply a very unique (and very particular) skill and talent. Personally, I couldn't do it. I'm all of 150 lbs soaking wet, and if I don't eat regularly -- for me that means every 5 hours because I have a runner's build with a fast metabolism -- my tank goes empty, and I literally start to hallucinate from hunger, nevermind the pain of the hunger pangs themselves.

I'm thinking the type of marathon sessions that Chris excels at, could be a fantastic weight loss program. It would *have* to be -- if one isn't going to eat for 16 hours at a clip, one must have some kind of "reserve" on his/her body to live on, as well as to supply the mind with.

Chris, how in the world do you do it? Do you have a stomach tube that leads to a food pouch hidden on your body somewhere?

-Sean

that..... or he eats while he plays.:wink:

 

[real bartram]

Celtic:

I couldn't agree with you more. To "do" 16 straight hours of pool is simply a very unique (and very particular) skill and talent. Personally, I couldn't do it. I'm all of 150 lbs soaking wet, and if I don't eat regularly -- for me that means every 5 hours because I have a runner's build with a fast metabolism -- my tank goes empty, and I literally start to hallucinate from hunger, nevermind the pain of the hunger pangs themselves.

I'm thinking the type of marathon sessions that Chris excels at, could be a fantastic weight loss program. It would *have* to be -- if one isn't going to eat for 16 hours at a clip, one must have some kind of "reserve" on his/her body to live on, as well as to supply the mind with.

Chris, how in the world do you do it? Do you have a stomach tube that leads to a food pouch hidden on your body somewhere?

-Sean

i cant tell how i do it.
then everyone would be able to do it.
lets just say i want to win more tan the other guy.

 

[sfleinen]

i cant tell how i do it.
then everyone would be able to do it.
lets just say i want to win more tan the other guy.

Well, I guess I don't have the physiology to do it. It's not a question of "want" with me -- if I don't eat at regular intervals, I go high as a kite and can't shake it off. Might be a blood sugar thing with me, I don't know.

And, I'd need a few minutes after I eat to let things settle, before I can engage in fierce thinking/execution again. So eating during a match, for me, would have to entail at least a 5 minute break afterwards, before I can begin again.

Anyway, kudos to you, Chris, for being able to do this!
-Sean

 

[jay helfert]

Celtic:

I couldn't agree with you more. To "do" 16 straight hours of pool is simply a very unique (and very particular) skill and talent. Personally, I couldn't do it. I'm all of 150 lbs soaking wet, and if I don't eat regularly -- for me that means every 5 hours because I have a runner's build with a fast metabolism -- my tank goes empty, and I literally start to hallucinate from hunger, nevermind the pain of the hunger pangs themselves.

I'm thinking the type of marathon sessions that Chris excels at, could be a fantastic weight loss program. It would *have* to be -- if one isn't going to eat for 16 hours at a clip, one must have some kind of "reserve" on his/her body to live on, as well as to supply the mind with.

Chris, how in the world do you do it? Do you have a stomach tube that leads to a food pouch hidden on your body somewhere?

-Sean

Think of it this way. You are probably walking close to two miles per hour. In a 16 hour set, you could easily walk a Marathon or more!

 

[jay helfert]

"Gangsta"? I have to "learn me" some of this new-fangled lingo. If someone really brings their game, and for a long haul (long set) for large sums of money, he/she is known as a "gangsta."

How do I do that signing thing with the fingers? You know, some fingers closed, others open, splayed very widely, and with the wrist bent to point those fingers down towards the floor? And, one has to bob that contorted wrist/fingers thingie up and down to the beat, all the while using the other hand to hold up those pants 15 sizes too big, crotch dragging on the floor, and the pant legs crumpled up like Slinkies?



J/K,
-Sean

You down man! You a Gangsta now!
We so cool, we ditch school, we shoot pool!

 

[punter]

i dont think many people on az really know what a gangsta alex is playing any game for money.

And just how do you know how good Eddie Taylor played?

 

[Island Drive]

Celtic:

I couldn't agree with you more. To "do" 16 straight hours of pool is simply a very unique (and very particular) skill and talent. Personally, I couldn't do it. I'm all of 150 lbs soaking wet, and if I don't eat regularly -- for me that means every 5 hours because I have a runner's build with a fast metabolism -- my tank goes empty, and I literally start to hallucinate from hunger, nevermind the pain of the hunger pangs themselves.

I'm thinking the type of marathon sessions that Chris excels at, could be a fantastic weight loss program. It would *have* to be -- if one isn't going to eat for 16 hours at a clip, one must have some kind of "reserve" on his/her body to live on, as well as to supply the mind with.

Chris, how in the world do you do it? Do you have a stomach tube that leads to a food pouch hidden on your body somewhere?

-Sean

It simple, you stay in shape, you eat before and during play, many times during play I've eaten a burger/fries and then run allot of packages, I'm 60 and I still prefer to play Loooooooooong matches, its the only way to get better quicker. After months of road work and strengthening of your stomach muscles playing till you drop is fun. You mind settles down, your ability to think becomes simplified and your swing rhythm becomes second nature........for me.

 

[PoolBum]

You down man! You a Gangsta now!
We so cool, we ditch school, we shoot pool!

We be fool!

 

[jay helfert]

It simple, you stay in shape, you eat before and during play, many times during play I've eaten a burger/fries and then run allot of packages, I'm 60 and I still prefer to play Loooooooooong matches, its the only way to get better quicker. After months of road work and strengthening of your stomach muscles playing till you drop is fun. You mind settles down, your ability to think becomes simplified and your swing rhythm becomes second nature........for me.

You make me sick. I can't draw my ball anymore! :frown:

 

[Celtic]

you might be right here.
then play race to 50 first on to win 6 sets one set a day.

I agree with this. At the end of the 6 days you are going to either show that one player is clearly better by getting 5 or 6 sets and by scores like 50-30, 50-34 in some or you are going to end up with a close result like 3-3 in sets and scores like 50-43, 50-47 each way and instead show that the players are actually pretty closely matched and either wins on any given day.

 

[Bobby]

you might be right here.
then play race to 50 first on to win 6 sets one set a day.

Okay, I'll agree with that kind of format. that's what I meant in my earlier post. The only thing I have against the marathon 24 hours straight matches is that few people can see straight for that long!

 

[real bartram]

Okay, I'll agree with that kind of format. that's what I meant in my earlier post. The only thing I have against the marathon 24 hours straight matches is that few people can see straight for that long!

they dont have to be 24hours.
i just think the tourneys dont show who the best plaer is.
thats just my opp.
i would bet on orcullo against any of the tourney champs for money.

 

[Bobby]

they dont have to be 24hours.
i just think the tourneys dont show who the best plaer is.
thats just my opp.
i would bet on orcullo against any of the tourney champs for money.

Yeah but then again Orcullo would be a good bet in a tourny too.

 

[Celtic]

Yeah but then again Orcullo would be a good bet in a tourny too.

Thats true, the guys who win the tournaments are often the same guys noone wants any piece of for the cash.

Orcullo, Archer, Reyes, Hall, the top players usually have their tournament titles to go along with their gambling status. They excel at both because at the end of the day winning the US Open or winning a long gambling session come down to the same thing, playing GREAT pool for a extended period of time.

While the best player might not win the US Open every year one of the best players always does. There has never been a time where some bum came in who cannot shoot and wins. You cannot suck and win a tournament like that. If you won the US Open you shot GREAT to do so.

 

[JohnPT]

I agree with Pat about Parica. Jose and I became friends when he first came over. He used to love to study Gary's Bank game and Gary and I missed no opportunities to watch Jose play back in the 80's. I staked him a few times and bet on a lot. I once had part of the action when Jose gave Danny Jones the wild 7 and 10 games on the wire racing to 30! Did I leave out that I think Jose has more heart than any pool player, past and present? Danny won the first 7 or 8 straight games (making him like 17-0 going to 30) Jose got a gear and started putting 2's 3's & 4's together with a lock up safety between. I don't think Danny got to 20 including the 10 game spot. Jose put on one of the best 9 ball exhibitions I've ever seen! Another time I came into the tourney room in Lexington and Terry Bell was playing an early match with Jose. Terry had Jose down 8-4. I sat down next to Cornbread and Red said "That Filipino was up all night robbing everyone, but I think he's out of gas!" I told Red that you cant count Jose out, he don't have any "give up" in him! It got to 9-6 favoring Bell when Cornbread said "Stick a fork in him". I was a little flush and really liked Jose's game so I told Red I'll take Jose from here for $50. Just a little sweat bet! He said if you're mad at your money, I'll take it! LOL Jose won 11-9. Red was so mad over a $50 bet that I thought he was going to have a stroke! He said Sherm, how the hell could you make a bet like that? I said "I don't know, just wanted some of Cornbread Red's money in my pocket! LOL He did get a kick out of that comment! Said it was worth the $50.

Thanks for sharing. His moniker suits him well, "Amang" (The Man).