who would be best person to match this ringwork?

tedzap

tedzap

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I picked up a neat little Scruggs cue recently, and am considering getting an OB Classic shaft made for it. I would like the ringwork to match, but don't know anyone who could do the job. I would like it to be done well, so that it would appear very close to original.

I think that the wood in the joint is tulipwood, but I am no expert. Looking for suggestions, would this be easy to match? My bet is that matching the wood closely might be the hardest part.

Thanks AZ!



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Looks like the rings are standard width nickel silver. The wood looks like it might be tigerwood or tulipwood. If you happen to know which type of wood, that will help.

I would check with Ryan at Meuller's. He's fast, reliable, and he gets stuck with these kind of projects all the time. Whoever you choose, let him buy the OB shaft for you and have them use the OB decal. That way they can make something on the shaft and charge a little less for the work.

Where I've seen even good cue maker's mess up on this is not getting the width of the silver rings right, not getting the right white plastic color (which really jumps out at you) , and using unlike shaft nipples.

Chris
 
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Looks like tulipwood to me. Ryan would do a good job. I would also recommend KJ cues. He does great work and matches rings excellently. I think the hardest part would be getting the color of the wood matched. Woods change in color and the OB shaft might be lighter than the cue work.

Either one of those guys would do a great job. There are actually a few guys who can do this work. I'm sure you will get plenty of responses.
 
Easy job. Tulip ring with .030" black ABS and .030" aluminum. That's what it looks like in the pic but a quick inspection in person and a builder would know exactly what to make. I would check with Ryan at Mueller's, as suggested. He specializes in this kind of work.
 
I'll third that one. There are many cue makers that can do the job for you but Ryan is the man. He is a whiz at that sort of repair and is very reasonably priced.
 
Hi Ted;

That was pretty cold posting this on the heels of our conversation. :rolleyes:

Just sayin'.

Best,
Brian kc
 
thanks for the replies

Sounds like it is a fairly straightforward job for a cue maker. Thanks so much for the input.

I gave Ryan a call, and oddly enough, I am getting ready to drive from Virginia to Omaha on business.

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Apologies

Brian, I apologize if this posting was offensive to you. It was something I have been meaning to ask in the week I have had the cue.
 
SpiderJerusalem said:
I'd like to see the rest of the cue!
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http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=219894&highlight=scruggs+fancy+pete

Everything you need to know about the cue.

I am glad to see that through 3 threads that a least Nick, Subdude and a few others remember my old cue.


For those interested imperfect marquee's on Scruggs cues are not unique as Mr. Wolfe and Mr. Frye explained to me. They used an old pantograph to create them and it was not accurate and sometimes got off a bit.

Apparently this cue was made as a gift for an individual that did some work for Timmy. From what I was told it is possible that it is a unique work. However as many of this style pete were made over the years it is also possible that a small run of the the same design were made.
 
I should have been paying attention 6 months ago.:frown: This is the exact style of Scruggs a friend of mine has been searching for himself. Bummer.
 
dogginda9 said:
I should have been paying attention 6 months ago.:frown: This is the exact style of Scruggs a friend of mine has been searching for himself. Bummer.
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It happens.
I went through hell trying to sell that cue.
A couple of pool sleuths killed a really good deal.
Hopefully the gentleman that has the cue now will use all the information gleaned from my experience to his advantage.

That's probably the best 125.00 cue I ever tripped over. Amazing what a desperate pool hall owner will negotiate down to. :smile:
 
If you have an old shaft with these rings that you don't want because it is warped, too skinny or some other reason, you can send me the shaft or even cut the collars off leaving a few inches of wood exposed and I can have the OB shaft made using the existing collar from the "discarded" old shaft, providing the collar is in good shape. We will use the same collar on the OB shaft of your choice.

PM me if you are interested.
 
AZ Can Be A Minefield...

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Originally Posted by Kickin' Chicken
Hi Ted;

That was pretty cold posting this on the heels of our conversation.

Just sayin'.

Best,
Brian kc


TATE said:
Hmmm...let me guess...
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Hi Chris;

No need to guess, I'll lay it out for you. :smile:

AZ member, "vanthonyv" sold this cue here on az, approx 2 weeks ago to Tedzap. Unfortunately, "vanthonyv" also sold this cue to me.

Within minutes of him posting the cue for sale, I pm'd him and posted to the thread that "I'll take it".

One minute before my posting to the thread, Ted posted "pm sent". There was no way for me to know if Ted or I were the first one to have a deal with the op but he, vanthonyv, responded to my pm giving me the green light and his paypal info to proceed. I paid right away and it was maybe in the next day or so that I noticed Tedzap had posted to the thread that he was looking forward to receiving the cue. :confused:

I pm'ed and emailed "vanthonyv" stating that while I certainly wanted the cue, I did not want any hard feelings with anyone over this and to please advise me on what's going on.

He had not responded and it was close to a week so I opened a dispute with paypal and I contacted Tedzap to see what he knew. He said he received the cue and was sorry to hear what "vanthonyv" had done.

I told Ted that I was frustrated over having ordered an unfinished 30" Predator shaft that I was going to have Paul Drexler match the ringwork on; oh well. :embarrassed2:

Within minutes of my sharing this with Ted, I saw that he posted this thread asking who would be the best person to match the ringwork. I simply thought this was not in good taste, right on the heels of our conversation.

In our pm's, I assured Ted that, in no way, do I think he did anything wrong regarding the transaction. How could I? With him and me, there are no hard feelings.

Ted was kind enough to provide me with the phone number he had for the seller, Anthony Vagnoni, and I got to speak with him about all this. He said he was sorry about selling the cue to both Ted and I and promised to refund my paypal payment right away which he has not done. It's been two days since we spoke.

I've tried calling him a couple more times and apparently he's trying to duck me. I'm not worrying about it because I know I'll be getting reimbursed but, once again, a hassle with an azb transaction. :angry:

In doing a quick bit of research on him, I see that Anthony has changed accounts after having another problem transaction over a Sledgehammer cue he sold. He received negative itrader over that on his previous az account, "Tony Semper".

I'll be posting a seperate thread about this transaction soon if no refund (voluntary) is given.

Tread carefully on all of your az dealings, unless you are doing biz with a well known, highly regarded, member. :thumbup:

Guess no more - you now have the full story. ;)

Best,
Brian kc
 
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Brian,

I understand why the timing of this post seemed in poor taste, and I do apologize. This didn't occur to me as I was posting, but I am sure it was there subconciously after hearing about your predator shaft. I already had plans to pursue another shaft for my use as well. Best of luck with your dispute with Anthony. Wish it weren't the situation.
 
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alternate shafts

Thanks for the history Sev, it is good to set that issue aside.

JoeyA, thanks for the offer, but both of the shafts are fine. What has me intrigued is the difference in their feel, they hit very different from each other. One of them is truly amazing and the other is simply good.

My interest in additional shafts is really to try and quantify what I like about shaft A. Although it has a super skinny profile, it HITS VERY BIG. (poor description I know, but the best I can do). I have tried Z2, OB-C Pro, and various skinny taper shafts in the past and none of them hit this BIG.

I am looking to get a OB Classic shaft as a baseline (that is what I shoot with daily), and some maple shafts to try different profiles, ferrules, etc. I expect the OB to see the most use, so matching ringwork on this one is worthwhile to me.

As a side note, I have a "mule" cue with three matched shafts that I used to do comparisons between tips, I guess that I am looking to do something similar with shafts. Probably the next experiment will involve joints? Guess this is straying quite a bit from the original post.
 
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