why do some cue makers

is there a reason you post in such large and dark letters??

Yes. I have 5 computers in the studio, but the only internet-connected box has a rather small screen. Increasing the size & darkness of the font makes it possible to read, write, and edit easily without having to squint.

And to "gaycrunch": I don't have to configure posts in any particular way to "show my superiority". I do that with my cues.

TW
 
well tom (can i call you tom?) aside from your mis-spelling (yes, i know you were making fun of me, purposely mis-spelling my screen name) i can assure you that the general public does not feel that way about you or your cues. and trying to show up other cuemakers in posts like this doesn't help you either.
 
I love the really small, intricate inlays that BB, and others are doing now with a cnc. Looks killer:cool: Just about everything else, should be done in the traditional fashion, especially points, and veneers. Cnc point and veneer inlays make me want to hurl:thumbup: They might as well just use stickers:D Very few builders are adding to their cues with a cnc, most are taking away from them, and making them look cheap.
 
well tom (can i call you tom?) aside from your mis-spelling (yes, i know you were making fun of me, purposely mis-spelling my screen name) i can assure you that the general public does not feel that way about you or your cues. and trying to show up other cuemakers in posts like this doesn't help you either.

Being part of the general public and a make belive, wanta be cuemaker. I was elated when Mr Wayne started posting here and elsewhere. If you don't have anything to add to their post, other than to show your a$$. Please don't post.

Sorry Dean, don't want to hijack your post.

Larry
 
I have seen several Searing cues and the craftsmanship is quite literally second to none. He doesn't advertise and isn't boastful in the least, but rather humble & accepting of others and their opinions. His objective for building cues isn't art. It's creating a fine tool for playing the game. He does his best work on every cue and continues to get better, so obviously his older cues are not going to be comparable to his newest work. That's a given, or should be, for all builders. But before anybody (especially his peers) can really begin to criticize him, I think it would be fair to consider that there are two very different approaches to cue making.

Some builders dismiss playability, the cue as an instrument, and focus on it as a canvas to express their artistic ideas. Others dismiss the artistic side of cues and focus on the cue as a tool and how they can advance it as such. Most try to incorporate both ideals into their cues. Dennis focuses mostly on playability and quality, with art being an afterthought. He is arguably the best EVER at what he does. And appropriately so, he is recognized as such. Thomas Wayne is arguably the best EVER at creating new, abstract, very fine art in cues. Appropriately so, he's recognized as such. These are two totally opposite ends of the spectrum, almost so opposite that they can hardly be comparable. They are comparable ONLY in the sense that cues are the subject. Dennis doesn't care if an inlay is rounded any more than Thomas doesn't care if a cue ever touches a cue ball. In fact, Dennis would be pissed if his masterpiece never hit a ball, and Thomas might be pissed if his masterpiece ever did hit a ball.

Apples & oranges. Anybody who considers Dennis Searing "lazy" because he has built cues with round tipped diamonds is doing nothing but showing their ignorance. Might as well say Jeff Gordon's team is lazy because they didn't put a leather seat in the car for him. He's driving a race car, not a Rolls Royce. Same difference between art cues & traditional playing cues. Different purposes, different market, still pool cues. Just as much technology, research, thought, innovation, & attention goes into one of Dennis' cues as does any artistic cue. Anybody who thinks differently doesn't know anything about Dennis. I'm not giving credit or taking credit from either approach to building cues. Both have their merits. I'm just saying that one should at least understand each before criticizing.
 
hey 63code, have no problem with anyone posting as long as it is constructive. trust me, tommy knows what searing is capable of, his remarks were not necessary. my first post was to inform dean of why the inlays on this older cue were rounded. so unless you have something constructive to say yourself, then i guess it's your ass and more that is hanging out. tom is entitled to his opinion, you are entitled to yours, and i guess i can have one as well.
 
Same for BIG LETTERS!

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well tom (can i call you tom?) aside from your mis-spelling (yes, i know you were making fun of me, purposely mis-spelling my screen name) i can assure you that the general public does not feel that way about you or your cues. and trying to show up other cuemakers in posts like this doesn't help you either.

Well, dick (can I call you dick?), I can assure you I don't build cues for "the general public", but apparently those people I do build cues for happen to "feel that way"... since I sell everything I can make well before it's finished.

As for "trying to show up other cuemakers"... if I wanted to do that I would have simply posted photos of some of the many razor-sharp diamond-in-diamond inlays I've done over the years. Rather, I took the Searing buttsleeve photo and re-touched it to show what the exact same cue would look like with the alternate approach of putting in some handwork as well as CNC. Which is on point, you might notice, with the issue raised by the original poster... you know, before you highjacked it to take personal potshots at me.

TW
 
well tommy i now see first hand why people talk about you like they do. i feel like i may have gone back to third grade. if you have to stoop to name calling and bashing other cuemakers i guess i that's a sign of??? by the way, i'm sorry you have to "squint" to read my posts, maybe i'l make mine bigger too.
 
well tommy i now see first hand why people talk about you like they do. i feel like i may have gone back to third grade. if you have to stoop to name calling and bashing other cuemakers i guess i that's a sign of??? by the way, i'm sorry you have to "squint" to read my posts, maybe i'l make mine bigger too.

Quote me doing either in this thread.

TW
 
"I personally think any inlaid diamond shape looks better with sharp corners, and especially feel it's mandatory for any diamond-in-diamond design. Your taste, however, may differ - so you'll have to decide for yourself. Then, if you agree the crisp, sharp inlay looks better in a V-point cue, the next question is whether Searing is capable of doing it.

TW"


Mr Thomas Wayne,

Are you having a bad day? Yes Searing can do that. For that matter Paul Dayton hand cuts almost all his work flawless.

It is not a matter of being lazy, it is a matter of it was not cut all by hand, it was CNC so why try to fool anyone.

If your having a bad day I am sorry to hear that. It soulds to me like you may be suffering from being a little green in emotion.

Why the homosexual name calling outburst? You have a fantastic name out there, why lower yourself?
 
Quote me doing either in this thread.

TW

oh, i am supposed to believe you mispelled my name by accident??? too easy. what do you call that??? that is name-calling and very third-gradish. but i have had my peace with you and don't wish to get you any more upset so i won't post again. have at it and reply in any bashing way you want, it seems to be your style and i guess it works for you. my main intention was letting dean know why the rounded inlays, not upsetting you (which seems to be easy).
 
Quote me doing either in this thread.

TW

Let's see.....

You called Guy "dick" (name calling) and said Dennis was lazy (bashing). That covers it, right?

Why do you always feel the need to belittle others under the guise of "just telling it like it is", or however you want to justify it?

Scott
 
Quote me doing either in this thread.

TW

TW,

Actually, in the 3rd and 13th post in this thread you suggest Dennis is either lazy of uncaring about his cues. I've known him for over 20 years and whatever else his faults may be, he is neither of those things. He really does want everything that goes into every one of his cues to be perfect and if it takes 6 months to get it better then that is what it takes. Numerous times I have seen him taking months and months of his time building tools to make a better parts even though what he was using were as good or better as anybody's to start with.

Decorative inlaying is not what Dennis is known for and 10 years ago when he inherited his first crude CNC, he did what was possible. After rebuilding and improving that CNC machine, he decided to build his own. Today he can and does use.005" and smaller bits for the few inlays he does and for him, having a CNC only increases and complicates his work.
 
Dennis Searing, The Lazy Man?

An unauthorised Bio

Dennis Searing was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth. I first met Dennis when he lived on West Taft Street in Hollywood Florida. Dennis had been in a car accident that I believe almost took his life. When I first met Dennis he was a little on the frail size Vs today where taking some time to excercise and play golf he has a build similar to Tiger Woods.

Dennis was a maker of cue parts long before making his first custom. I am not talking parts for sale I am talking of learning as he spent endless hours on the phone with a famous Cuemaker that has long now passed away.

I found Dennis to be unusual as rather than hide what he did he would explain it in detail so you would understand. I did not know much about Cue making at the time and probably less now but I watched the man take hundreds of pieces of shaft wood, mark each one by pencil in 1/2 or 1" increments put them on the lathe and dial in the same exact taper by hand dialing in the router as the auto feed slowly moved the cutting tool post to the end. He would then date each shaft, put a hook on it and let it hang. A note on this is Dennis called each cue his eggshell and my guess is he has cut up more shaft wood to use for something else that used in the making of his cues, if the shaft was not right it did not play on a Searing.

A little time passed and I was going to his garage where his shop was as I was involved in roofing so had the day off. When I was pulling up I saw his landlord had tore a roof off in the rain. Not sure if the Landlord had sold the place or what but Dennis had a bunch of water in his shop and I think on moving to East Taft Hollywood he spent about 6 months with dehumidifiers before another piece of Searing Cue wood was cut. Dennis and his girlfriend shared a car then as to buy a second was like burning money in bad times. If memory serves me right he did a lot of Pool Room Tip replacement for maybe $5.00 a tip to keep him going, Dennis Searing was no man for hand outs or giving up his dream to make cues.

On East Taft the new Landlord told him he could live there forever (long as he paid his rent). If I remember right Wendsday night was quality time with his girlfriend where they would watch TV and Dennis would glue up veneers in a little jig he had. I would bet to this day he still has many of those in his new shop as well as ring work. Why? If push comes to shove Dennis will still be able to bring a Searing back, with original pieces.

I think maybe two years went by at most and the new landlord had a son or daughter moving to Florida and the landlord told Dennis, sorry but you have to move.

Now to see Dennis move is a sight to behold. It does not take days or weeks, it takes a month or two as besides everything being perfect, he makes it better than before. Dennis elected to get his own shop in Davie Florida rather than use his house. Yes, Dennis was still marking the shafts, dialing them in without taper bars and marking a cut. This might not seem like that much but I don't think I have ever seen Dennis cut more than 5 - 10 thousands off at a time. Things were looking up, Dennis was doing repairs and creating a real name in custom cues. One night however a guy broke into Searings shop and stole select cues. Not production, I am talking some of the cues from the best cue makers who ever lived. I asked Dennis if he knew who but though he might have known 90% he would not say as he does not bad mouth anyone and no proof, they didn't do it. Dennis had to wheel and deal with every owner of those cues and made everyone right and happy. A couple of months later they arrested the guy who stole the cues on unrelated charges. Dennis asked if they could pop the trunk of the car, he had reported the theft to Police but due to an evidence law they wouldn't. Dennis shrugged it off with, probably warped in trunk in hot Florida sun.

Time went by and Searing Cues was getting to be known world wide as many would fly in to put an order in and fly back out. Dennis has been one to do everything himself and that and time came back to bite him in the butt. I forget exactly if it was a Florida Pro Tour or what but Dennis went a weekend with no sleep. Playing catch up at night cutting venners he got groggy and cut a finger off. This was a time before cell phones. Dennis tried to make it to the phone and collapsed from losing blood, he did get the phone off the hook. He had a very good friend by the name of George who he was supposed to meet near the shop to eat. Biggest break of Dennis life for a cue maker always being late, George called got no answer and decided to go to the shop and drag his butt out of there. He found Dennis on the floor bleeding and if I recall right the Dr's said had it not happened that fast, he would have died.

Dennis was at that shop for many years. I forget now if it was at the end of that shop or the start of the new shop he still has in Lake Worth Dennis built his own taper set up on the lathe. Though I like the Hightower taper system etc, this was notta like it. Dennis had started to do just a little with a CNC at that time. Not on cues but like he started, he just did pieces into pieces to perfect how each wood cut and fit. At todays writing Dennis has built his own CNC, a world apart from the first and another I can't talk about but if he could grow the trees and go to the foundry and pour the steel, he is one cuemaker who would.

Lazy? I don't think so. Dennis has however cut down to 6 day weeks, sometimes.

I don't have the time right now, we old guys gotta take our Geritol or I would tell how Steve "The Miz" finaly cornered Dennis and made him make his favorite playing cue.
 
1) I wrote, EXACTLY:

"I think any cuemaker who fails to hand cut sharp corners in ANY cue he's selling is just plain lazy - IF the design benefits from a crisp, sharp look, that is."

Not addressed to Searing, at Searing, or having anything to do with Searing. I simply gave my opinion of sharp corners versus rounded corners - WHICH IS WHAT THE O.P. REQUESTED - and I went on to point out that it's up to the individual viewer to decide if a particular design warrants the extra effort of hand-cutting in sharp corners.

So all you white-knight Dennis Searing lovers can feel free to cool your jets, I wasn't intending any kind of slur toward him - I think I've seen maybe two of his cues EVER.

2) If "gUycrunch" can freely call me by any nickname he chooses ("tom") then it seems reasonable that I should be able to give him a personalized nickname as well. "Dick" seemed particularity appropriate under the circumstances, but I would hasten to point out that I didn't call him "A dick", merely "dick".

3) "guycrunch", "gaycrunch"... it's all the same to me - just a made up name for some anonymous poster. Ironically, in the small all-lowercase font on a 6" x 8" notebook screen it looks more like "gaycrunch" (at a least to my eye), but I don't really care one way or the other. Could just as easily be spelled m-i-c-k-e-y-m-o-u-s-e as far as I'm concerned - still a nonsense name.

And finally, perfect for the three of you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrJp-DImFoM


TW

(PS: I see (as expected) no one is able to actually QUOTE me - only paraphrase and/or infer their own interpretation.)
 
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Yes. I have 5 computers in the studio, but the only internet-connected box has a rather small screen. Increasing the size & darkness of the font makes it possible to read, write, and edit easily without having to squint.

And to "gaycrunch": I don't have to configure posts in any particular way to "show my superiority". I do that with my cues.

TW

i havent read all the posts and i appoligize to the op for a no intention mini hijack
but heres my $100 cents to thomas
you come off as an arrogant as#hole with your fonts and bolding

if you want to "appear like one the of guys "
change you font and bolding
if you dont you confirm that your intent is to "talk down to us"
JMHO
 
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