Why no buzz over TAR 37???

They are referencing the amount of thought required in terms of patrerns etc in 8 vs 9 ball. They aren't incorrect. Ball by number isn't exactly the biggest mental test. I seriously doubt anyone is dissuaded from buying tomorrow's match just because of that.

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Dissing a certain game never dissuaded anyone from paying to watch it. Just look at bonus ball. :)


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I've heard twice now Cotton has made sure no one wastes their time/money watching the nine ball set tomorrow because that game is a joke.




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In spite of Cotton being in the booth I will be paying for tomorrow night.... They leave him in the audience next time I buy the whole shooting match....
I'll buy it to support TAR, Mark and Justin... I won't watch much of it if any at all.... since I would have to mute it........

Chris
 
Corey played good, made some mistakes, score should have been 8-4. J. Jones commentary was excellent, Cotton was also good. If JJ's game is as good as his commentary, I would rate him higher than Shane and Cory. What do you think?

He is a ball under
 
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It assures the Professional breaker to make 1-3 balls virtually every time.

There do seem to be a lot more clusters tonight. I wonder if that is due to not using the magic rack. If so I think they should abandon it for 8 ball.

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The Magic Rack makes the games approximately 20 - 30% easier to run out between more balls made and less clusters. This equates to MANY more racks run in a match.

8 Ball, 9 Ball or 10 ball are too easy for Pros using this type rack, in 9 Ball the corner ball is dead and in 10 Ball the two behind the one are wired for the side, the next two go cross corner and the end balls go four rails in the corner.

The Magic Rack assures the Professional breaker to make 1-3 balls virtually every time.
 
The Magic Rack makes the games approximately 20 - 30% easier to run out between more balls made and less clusters. This equates to MANY more racks run in a match.

8 Ball, 9 Ball or 10 ball are too easy for Pros using this type rack, in 9 Ball the corner ball is dead and in 10 Ball the two behind the one are wired for the side, the next two go cross corner and the end balls go four rails in the corner.

The Magic Rack assures the Professional breaker to make 1-3 balls virtually every time.

You've been arguing a lot about the rack and racker lately but you're the first to dismiss the best racker in the business, a flimsy piece of plastic film.... Unless the balls are finger f*cked after the magic rack has perfectly frozen EVERY ball, each breaker gets the identical opportunity as the next, with every player getting an equal opportunity to win from the break. If a human is racking with a regular rack, a gap that's as small as a human hair makes a world of difference and that human hair is measured in thousandths of an inch. Even with a highly trained "referee" racking the balls, it is often impossible for them to rack every ball frozen perfectly. What I get from several statements you've made is that the balls should be racked by a referee, the breaker shouldn't be allowed to check the rack and that if there are some imperfections that those imperfections will somewhat average out over time... I may be completely wrong about your reasoning but that's the way it has come across from the posts I have read in several different threads here.

IMO, the best solution is for the balls to be racked by a referee with a magic rack so the balls can't be finger f*cked by racker, no matter whether its winner or loser breaks. Yes, with the magic rack, balls are wired and the balls do spread better, but, that's what happens when each player gets the same identical "perfect" rack..... After the break happens, the cream will come to the top and the best player will win. Sure, at a world class level it does become robot pool but at least all of the robots are given a fair chance from the opening shot with no outside intervention....
 
The Magic Rack makes the games approximately 20 - 30% easier to run out between more balls made and less clusters. This equates to MANY more racks run in a match.

8 Ball, 9 Ball or 10 ball are too easy for Pros using this type rack, in 9 Ball the corner ball is dead and in 10 Ball the two behind the one are wired for the side, the next two go cross corner and the end balls go four rails in the corner.

The Magic Rack assures the Professional breaker to make 1-3 balls virtually every time.

Don't we need the game to work like this and be faster for tv ?
 
Another vote for the MR and racked by a ref. Why a ref? Because believe it or not there are a few things you can do with a MR to wire other balls other than the ones it wires when tight, straight and on the spot. The best MR is the original thicker one. The real flimsy ones are too easy to do tricks with. Johnnyt spent many, many hours figuring out ways to rig the MR. Johnnyt
 
Really enjoyed the 8 ball. Corey is probably the smartest player in terms of pool tactics.
No wonder he excels at 1p.

He knew that trying a standard hard 8b break that he'd be playing the same game as Shane,
and Shane's just better at that game.
So Corey changed the game to something where he has a shot...
a safe-break straight pool or 1p-type game.

It definitely prevented a few outs from Shane. Unfortunately it backfired sometimes
and prevented corey from getting out too... I remember one rack, there were 3 or 4 shots
in a row where corey would break out one cluster, and then make a new one.

Thanks Pooltrax for the stats, they're interesting.

Corey's soft break made a ball more often than shane (70.8% vs 66.6%)
but average number of balls pocketed lower, and runout % WAY lower...
25% for corey vs. 53.3% for shane.
If you looked at just that stat you'd assume one guy creamed the other.

Looking forward to tonight's match. Bobby's comments on 9b don't faze me,
I think secretly we'd all rather have opinionated commentators who don't overly worry
about stepping on toes and will just say what they think.
It's not like I'm gonna suddenly hate 9b and ask for a refund.
The TAR guys seem to have a good sense of humor about that sort of thing...
like when Corey said he knew he had no chance during the intro and Justin says
something like "well there you have it, you guys don't even need to bother watching, Shane wins."
 
Really enjoyed the 8 ball. Corey is probably the smartest player in terms of pool tactics.
No wonder he excels at 1p.

He knew that trying a standard hard 8b break that he'd be playing the same game as Shane,
and Shane's just better at that game.
So Corey changed the game to something where he has a shot...
a safe-break straight pool or 1p-type game.

It definitely prevented a few outs from Shane. Unfortunately it backfired sometimes
and prevented corey from getting out too... I remember one rack, there were 3 or 4 shots
in a row where corey would break out one cluster, and then make a new one.

Thanks Pooltrax for the stats, they're interesting.

Corey's soft break made a ball more often than shane (70.8% vs 66.6%)
but average number of balls pocketed lower, and runout % WAY lower...
25% for corey vs. 53.3% for shane.
If you looked at just that stat you'd assume one guy creamed the other.

Looking forward to tonight's match. Bobby's comments on 9b don't faze me,
I think secretly we'd all rather have opinionated commentators who don't overly worry
about stepping on toes and will just say what they think.
It's not like I'm gonna suddenly hate 9b and ask for a refund.
The TAR guys seem to have a good sense of humor about that sort of thing...
like when Corey said he knew he had no chance during the intro and Justin says
something like "well there you have it, you guys don't even need to bother watching, Shane wins."

I seen where Corey posted "don't bet on me" I was like WTF !!!!! I would think a player like Corey would think he had a chance. In my opinion that didn't help with promotion either.
What's up with that ? Bark for the fans at least
Maybe he was trying to be over looked and catch Shane off guard . Who knows
 
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Corey knows he is the underdog- especially in 8 and 9 ball. However, I think he is sort of sandbagging (in saying he has no chance) to take the pressure off of himself. I finally have some time to watch the match. I am purchasing the 9 ball- hopefully it is a good match.
 
I seen where Corey posted "don't bet on me" I was like WTF !!!!! I would think a player like Corey would think he had a chance. In my opinion that didn't help with promotion either.
What's up with that ? Bark for the fans at least
Maybe he was trying to be over looked and catch Shane off guard . Who knows

I don't know corey at all and I might be full of shit thinking this way.
But the vibe I get about him, just watching him at tournaments and reading
comments about him... is that he's got little competitive spirit anymore
and is kind of down about pool or maybe himself in general.
Anyone else see that? He almost seems kind of depressed.

When he's interested enough he can win anything.
But when he's not, he just seems like he's going through the motions.

I think he actually IS interested in winning this match.
And usually he has all the tools to win.
But shane may be one player where even if you have tons
of talent and motivation, you still can lose.
I guess that'd be pretty tough to accept.
 
I don't know corey at all and I might be full of shit thinking this way.
But the vibe I get about him, just watching him at tournaments and reading
comments about him... is that he's got little competitive spirit anymore
and is kind of down about pool or maybe himself in general.
Anyone else see that? He almost seems kind of depressed.

When he's interested enough he can win anything.
But when he's not, he just seems like he's going through the motions.

I think he actually IS interested in winning this match.
And usually he has all the tools to win.
But shane may be one player where even if you have tons
of talent and motivation, you still can lose.
I guess that'd be pretty tough to accept.

I stated in a precious post that if you take shanes work ethic and coreys creativity, you have the greatest player on earth! I think Corey is a better player in all games than Shane, BUT, the person who's gonna win is the person who puts the time in! And Shane proves that day in and day out! You can't beat his work ethic!!!
 
I would like to hear Justin in the booth more. He's very good. The commentary seems to be getting worse every TAR match. Maybe time to change up again. JMO though.
 
I don't know corey at all and I might be full of shit thinking this way.
But the vibe I get about him, just watching him at tournaments and reading
comments about him... is that he's got little competitive spirit anymore
and is kind of down about pool or maybe himself in general.
Anyone else see that? He almost seems kind of depressed.

When he's interested enough he can win anything.
But when he's not, he just seems like he's going through the motions.

I think he actually IS interested in winning this match.
And usually he has all the tools to win.
But shane may be one player where even if you have tons
of talent and motivation, you still can lose.
I guess that'd be pretty tough to accept.
I don't know him at all either, but Corey is about five or six years older than Shane and been a full time pro for probably 15 years if not longer. All of that travel and the year to year grind of being a pro pool player must wear thin after a while. I don't understand how they can do it quite frankly
 
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