Will Someone Please Explain What I just Saw Alex do at Turningstone?

kvinbrwr

kvinbrwr

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OK. I'm baffled (nothing new). I was on the phone and missed most of the 2nd last rack. When I came back I saw what I thought was Alex straight in on the case 9 ball with 9 and cue both along the long rail. But that couldn't be what I saw because Alex tried some safety and sold out to go hill-hill???

WTF ?>????

What am I missing?

Thanks

Kevin
 
Like, a long shot with both balls frozen tight to the long rail? That is one of the hardest shots in pool, if it is past the side pocket and the pocket is not cut perfectly it can actually be impossible.

Show it on a WEI table, but if it is the long shot with the cueball close to a corner and the object ball past the side about 2 diamonds from the other corner, both frozen to the rail that is a gaff shot and not a percentage shot for anyone.
 
Celtic said:
Like, a long shot with both balls frozen tight to the long rail? That is one of the hardest shots in pool, if it is past the side pocket and the pocket is not cut perfectly it can actually be impossible.

Show it on a WEI table, but if it is the long shot with the cueball close to a corner and the object ball past the side about 2 diamonds from the other corner, both frozen to the rail that is a gaff shot and not a percentage shot for anyone.
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Hey thanks, but I'm actually looking for someone who saw the shot to explain what I'm missing.

Thanks again

Kevin
 
kvinbrwr said:
OK. I'm baffled (nothing new). I was on the phone and missed most of the 2nd last rack. When I came back I saw what I thought was Alex straight in on the case 9 ball with 9 and cue both along the long rail. But that couldn't be what I saw because Alex tried some safety and sold out to go hill-hill???

WTF ?>????

What am I missing?

Thanks

Kevin
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He wasn't straight in. He had a cut on the 9-ball up the rail, but whitey would have scratched in the side. So he tried to slow roll it and lock the cue ball on the side pocket knuckle. A very difficult shot that was not successful.
 
Brozif said:
He wasn't straight in. He had a cut on the 9-ball up the rail, but whitey would have scratched in the side. So he tried to slow roll it and lock the cue ball on the side pocket knuckle. A very difficult shot that was not successful.
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Gotcha, thanks so much.

Kevin
 
I thought he could have thinned it to the rail and leave the white on the oppsite side rail in about the same position, but who I am to question Alex.
 
D_Lewis said:
I thought he could have thinned it to the rail and leave the white on the oppsite side rail in about the same position, but who I am to question Alex.
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Neil said:
I first saw that safety performed by Tony Ellin in a pro tournament in Lansing, Mi. many years ago. He had about 3 feet of distance between the cb and the ob. He pulled it off perfectly.......or so he thought! I don't remember who his opponent was, but he kicked at it 2 rails around the corner pocket, hit it, and banked it to the opposite corner pocket at the other end of the table!

After that match, I remember Buddy Hall and two or three other pros on that table practicing that safety and talking about it's merits. It might have been the first time they had seen anyone try it.???
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The imagination to even think of that shot is impressive! To be able to execute such a shot from that kind of distance requires a level of precision that is simply amazing!

What an awesome player Tony was, and even a much better person! RIP Tony!
 
an easy shot

Celtic said:
Like, a long shot with both balls frozen tight to the long rail? That is one of the hardest shots in pool, if it is past the side pocket and the pocket is not cut perfectly it can actually be impossible.

Show it on a WEI table, but if it is the long shot with the cueball close to a corner and the object ball past the side about 2 diamonds from the other corner, both frozen to the rail that is a gaff shot and not a percentage shot for anyone.
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That is actually an easy shot to make. I'd jump all over it at $20 a shot, freeze up the first $200. No reason for the middle pocket to come into play cut well or not. Think about it just a little and you know the answer.

Hu
 
Celtic said:
Like, a long shot with both balls frozen tight to the long rail? That is one of the hardest shots in pool, if it is past the side pocket and the pocket is not cut perfectly it can actually be impossible.

Show it on a WEI table, but if it is the long shot with the cueball close to a corner and the object ball past the side about 2 diamonds from the other corner, both frozen to the rail that is a gaff shot and not a percentage shot for anyone.
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thats whats nice about Diamond tables, I can freeze a OB on the center spot on the long rail and CB on the center spot on the same long rail and fire it in 10/10 times. I was amazed-Glen redid my rails and the shot is a hanger. your 100% right on most tables the center pocket point will catch the CB and you never even hit the OB, on my table all 4 directions its a hanger, litterly a C+ player can make it 10/10 times. Thats one thing a Diamond table fixed, I lost lots of $$ on that shot because of bad equipment.
 
Fatboy2 said:
thats whats nice about Diamond tables, I can freeze a OB on the center spot on the long rail and CB on the center spot on the same long rail and fire it in 10/10 times. I was amazed-Glen redid my rails and the shot is a hanger. your 100% right on most tables the center pocket point will catch the CB and you never even hit the OB, on my table all 4 directions its a hanger, litterly a C+ player can make it 10/10 times. Thats one thing a Diamond table fixed, I lost lots of $$ on that shot because of bad equipment.
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I'll be in vegas in November, Ive got about $50,000 says I miss it at least once.

;)

We're playing in TAP's Nationals at Ballys, you should pop by!
 
Brozif said:
He wasn't straight in. He had a cut on the 9-ball up the rail, but whitey would have scratched in the side. So he tried to slow roll it and lock the cue ball on the side pocket knuckle. A very difficult shot that was not successful.
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That's what I saw too. I thought he should have played another safety by skinning the 9 ball and freezing it to the side rail while placing the cue ball on the opposite rail between the first and second diamond. If he freezes the 9 ball, a bank is extremely difficult and shooting off of the rail at a difficult bank shot is not the most desirable position to be in. Answering with a good safety isn't going to be easy, but what do I know, sitting in the comfort of my home.

If Alex hooks the cue ball behind the point, he is a genius on that shot. Still, he is one of the best players alive.....
Isn't there supposed to be a TAR match with him and Shane or am I thinking of someone else. Both Alex and Shane have shown that they are human during this tournament but we will see a different pair if they play for the big money on www.theactionreport.com
 
Tar#21

JoeyA,

There IS a rematch of SVB and Alex on September 23-25.
3 day race to 100.
Diamond table with 4-1/8" pockets!
At the TAR studio in as Vegas.
Ppv $35 for all 3 days/$15 per day

There are a 'few' seats still available - only were around 12-15 to start.

Go to www.Theactionreport.com or check some of the posts on az.

That is all I can tell you - but Justin is probably lurking and can provide more info.

Mark griffin
 
Mark Griffin said:
JoeyA,

There IS a rematch of SVB and Alex on September 23-25.
3 day race to 100.
Diamond table with 4-1/8" pockets!
At the TAR studio in as Vegas.
Ppv $35 for all 3 days/$15 per day

There are a 'few' seats still available - only were around 12-15 to start.

Go to www.Theactionreport.com or check some of the posts on az.

That is all I can tell you - but Justin is probably lurking and can provide more info.

Mark griffin
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Thanks for the heads-up Mark. This should be a GREAT event.
 
I'm not saying I know better than Alex, but a great player named Larry Bohn showed me that shot. I think it was within the parameters to shoot it there too.... you use low inside and you can avoid the scratch.

I don't like Alex's game. I see him do stuff like this all the time, it's like fun pool or something. He wants to shoot things people will talk about. Give me a Mike Sigel any day. That is, they both have about as much talent, but guess who actually won? So what does that tell ya.

Anyway, I like 2 shots before the shot he took; thinning it and trying to leave it close to the rail to leave the stiff (double kiss) bank, or shooting at it as I mentioned.
 
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