Wimpy's Strengths???

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You often hear that Luther Lassiter was the best 9-baller back in the day. Unfortunately i didnt get to see him play because i'm so young but i have read that he was a phenomenal shotmaker.
Shotmaking alone doesn't make you a super 9-baller, so Wimpy must have had other strengths as well?? Did he have a monster break? (i suppose his break must have been at least 'good' if he had put a 16-pack on someone). What kind of position play did he have? Did he let the CB travel alot or was he more conservative with positions and trust his potting abilities? Who modern player is most like him?
 
Great question! I was wondering same thing. He was before my time also. Will check back to see the responses.
 
Wimpy played tight position most of the time, within one to two feet of the object ball. He would do so with minimal cue ball travel. His cue ball control was on a par with current great Efren Reyes.

Lassiter's ball pocketing was also excellent, most balls going in the center of the pocket. He could have played on 4" pockets and still made every ball. He was unhappy with himself if the object ball went in the side of the pocket or touched a rail going in. The same with his position play. He would be noticeably disappointed if the cue ball strayed more than an inch or two from it's intended destination. In a word he was a perfectionist, much like the equally celebrated Willie Mosconi.

His break was only average, probably the weakest part of his game. Again, not unlike Reyes. But Lassiter was able to control the cue ball on the break and rarely scratched. He was the first player I saw who was clearly playing position on the one ball after the break.

Lassiter's strengths included a burning desire to win, NEVER letting down in a match, always giving his best effort on EVERY shot (he understood how easy it was to get out of line on an easy shot) and the relentless pursuit of perfection. For example he could play a flawless match and win easily, but afterward when questioned, remember the shot where he got out of line and had to make a bank shot. He rarely gave himself credit for playing well. He expected to win every match he played and a loss alarmed and dismayed him. But he could, and did, come back from the loser's side to win many tournaments. He could not countenance losing.

To say Lassiter was consumed with pool is an understatement. He literally lived, ate and breathed pool. It was his entire reason for being. He was never married and only had one brief relationship when he was a young man. It didn't work out and he never went that route again. He was not one to sit around and lament his lot in life or question the sport he was so gifted at. He didn't waste his time comparing his life with that of athletes in other sports. He was a pool player, and he knew it and he embraced it. His only concern was his next game, his next opponent and the next tournament.

Everything he did was designed to help him be the best player possible. Proper rest, good diet and supportive relationships were the things he nurtured. He had a small circle of family and friends who were close to him. Outsiders were kept at a distance. The only times I ever saw him really relax and joke around was when he was talking with Don Willis or George Rood, his two best friends in pool. With them he could have a casual conversation. He wouldn't let his guard down with anyone else.

The player who currently most reminds me of Lassiter in his attitude toward winning matches and tournaments is Ralf Souquet. He also takes losing very hard, and is fully committed to his life as a professional pool player.

I hope this helps modern fans of pool get a better idea of what made Lassiter a very special, once in a lifetime player.
 
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You often hear that Luther Lassiter was the best 9-baller back in the day. Unfortunately i didnt get to see him play because i'm so young but i have read that he was a phenomenal shotmaker.
Shotmaking alone doesn't make you a super 9-baller, so Wimpy must have had other strengths as well?? Did he have a monster break? (i suppose his break must have been at least 'good' if he had put a 16-pack on someone). What kind of position play did he have? Did he let the CB travel alot or was he more conservative with positions and trust his potting abilities? Who modern player is most like him?

You can go on youtube and watch him play.....
 
My only experience seeing this man play (over a 5 yr period) was every year at Janscos till the Treasury dept's raid. Quiet unassuming man, in a suit, seemed to go to sleep on his opponent during straight pool matches till his shot came up. He had a short length ferrule on his cue that I think was red in color. I remember watching him playing 14.1 many times and what stuck out'....his willingness to take the 3 scratch rule, yet his unwillingness to let his opponent get a makeable shot, ever. His board play much like great one pocket players, to create or finally get an opening shot was difficult to overcome. Wimpy would rather have the score him -40 and you 0 than ever give you a clean shot. When it came to 9 ball, if he was within 2 or 3'' or lesss of the makeable object ball he seemed to "always" make the difficult shot and get 5 or 7 rail shape on his next ball and get out, he was a very agressive player in this situation.
 
Perfect description

Wimpy played tight position most of the time, within one to two feet of the object ball. He would do so with minimal cue ball travel. His cue ball control was on a par with current great Efren Reyes.

Lassiter's ball pocketing was also excellent, most balls going in the center of the pocket. He could have played on 4" pockets and still made every ball. He was unhappy with himself if the object ball went in the side of the pocket or touched a rail going in. The same with his position play. He would be noticeably disappointed if the cue ball strayed more than an inch or two from it's intended destination. In a word he was a perfectionist, much like the equally celebrated Willie Mosconi.

His break was only average, probably the weakest part of his game. Again, not unlike Reyes. But Lassiter was able to control the cue ball on the break and rarely scratched. He was the first player I saw who was clearly playing position on the one ball after the break.

Lassiter's strengths included a burning desire to win, NEVER letting down in a match, always giving his best effort on EVERY shot (he understood how easy it was to get out of line on an easy shot) and the relentless pursuit of perfection. For example he could play a flawless match and win easily, but afterward when questioned, remember the shot where he got out of line and had to make a bank shot. He rarely gave himself credit for playing well. He expected to win every match he played and a loss alarmed and dismayed him. But he could, and did, come back from the loser's side to win many tournaments. He could not countenance losing.

To say Lassiter was consumed with pool is an understatement. He literally lived, ate and breathed pool. It was his entire reason for being. He was never married and only had one brief relationship when he was a young man. It didn't work out and he never went that route again. He was not one to sit around and lament his lot in life or question the sport he was so gifted at. He didn't waste his time comparing his life with that of athletes in other sports. He was a pool player, and he knew it and he embraced it. His only concern was his next game, his next opponent and the next tournament.

Everything he did was designed to help him be the best player possible. Proper rest, good diet and supportive relationships were the things he nurtured. He had a small circle of family and friends who were close to him. Outsiders were kept at a distance. The only times I ever saw him really relax and joke around was when he was talking with Don Willis or George Rood, his two best friends in pool. With them he could have a casual conversation. He wouldn't let his guard down with anyone else.

The player who currently most reminds me of Lassiter in his attitude toward winning matches and tournaments is Ralf Souquet. He also takes losing very hard, and is fully committed to his life as a professional pool player.

I hope this helps modern fans of pool get a better idea of what made Lassiter a very special, once in a lifetime player.

You nailed him, bro. I would just add a little more emphasis on the fact that he was the most dangerous man I ever seen when he was behind. I heard Greenleaf was the same, but I didnt get to see him play. What you did to Wimpy had zero effect on his game. If you ran 99, he could come right back with a 100. No lead was safe with him.

Beard
 
Thanks, Jay! Great description of a great player. I only got to see Lassiter once, way past his prime. But you could see touches of that greatness, still.
 
Wimpy played tight position most of the time, within one to two feet of the object ball. He would do so with minimal cue ball travel. His cue ball control was on a par with current great Efren Reyes.

Lassiter's ball pocketing was also excellent, most balls going in the center of the pocket. He could have played on 4" pockets and still made every ball. He was unhappy with himself if the object ball went in the side of the pocket or touched a rail going in. The same with his position play. He would be noticeably disappointed if the cue ball strayed more than an inch or two from it's intended destination. In a word he was a perfectionist, much like the equally celebrated Willie Mosconi.

His break was only average, probably the weakest part of his game. Again, not unlike Reyes. But Lassiter was able to control the cue ball on the break and rarely scratched. He was the first player I saw who was clearly playing position on the one ball after the break.

Lassiter's strengths included a burning desire to win, NEVER letting down in a match, always giving his best effort on EVERY shot (he understood how easy it was to get out of line on an easy shot) and the relentless pursuit of perfection. For example he could play a flawless match and win easily, but afterward when questioned, remember the shot where he got out of line and had to make a bank shot. He rarely gave himself credit for playing well. He expected to win every match he played and a loss alarmed and dismayed him. But he could, and did, come back from the loser's side to win many tournaments. He could not countenance losing.

To say Lassiter was consumed with pool is an understatement. He literally lived, ate and breathed pool. It was his entire reason for being. He was never married and only had one brief relationship when he was a young man. It didn't work out and he never went that route again. He was not one to sit around and lament his lot in life or question the sport he was so gifted at. He didn't waste his time comparing his life with that of athletes in other sports. He was a pool player, and he knew it and he embraced it. His only concern was his next game, his next opponent and the next tournament.

Everything he did was designed to help him be the best player possible. Proper rest, good diet and supportive relationships were the things he nurtured. He had a small circle of family and friends who were close to him. Outsiders were kept at a distance. The only times I ever saw him really relax and joke around was when he was talking with Don Willis or George Rood, his two best friends in pool. With them he could have a casual conversation. He wouldn't let his guard down with anyone else.

The player who currently most reminds me of Lassiter in his attitude toward winning matches and tournaments is Ralf Souquet. He also takes losing very hard, and is fully committed to his life as a professional pool player.

I hope this helps modern fans of pool get a better idea of what made Lassiter a very special, once in a lifetime player.

They found him dead next to his table and I doubt if he would have wanted it any other way.
 
Thanks Jay for the memories.

Here is a link to Mark Wilson's website; he has a very interesting story about Luther about halfway down the page.

http://www.playgreatpool.com/whatithinkabout.html

The book "Hustler Days" has extensive info about this great player.

Thanks for this link. I had not read it before. Mark's stories about Lassiter captured the essence of a very proud man, who had taken on all comers for his entire career. By the way, when they had the Legends of Pool in Atlantic City in the mid 1980's, Lassiter won both years. His opponents included Mosconi, Caras, Moore, Puckett, Rags Woods, Cranfield and Fats. He was about 65 years old and still the best!

Luther died a few years afterwards at his brother's home in Elizabeth City, NC. The story is he was practicing pool when he passed away. Only fitting.
 
One little idiosyncrasy he had was when he had to shoot left handed. If you ever saw him shoot a shot lefty you never forgot it. He would lay his right hand down on the table palm side up. Then he would make a circular bridge with his thumb and index finger. It looked so strange, but it worked for him. I never knew anyone else to try this bridge. It was uniquely Lassiter's.
 
Wimpy played tight position most of the time, within one to two feet of the object ball. He would do so with minimal cue ball travel. His cue ball control was on a par with current great Efren Reyes.

Lassiter's ball pocketing was also excellent, most balls going in the center of the pocket. He could have played on 4" pockets and still made every ball. He was unhappy with himself if the object ball went in the side of the pocket or touched a rail going in. The same with his position play. He would be noticeably disappointed if the cue ball strayed more than an inch or two from it's intended destination. In a word he was a perfectionist, much like the equally celebrated Willie Mosconi.

His break was only average, probably the weakest part of his game. Again, not unlike Reyes. But Lassiter was able to control the cue ball on the break and rarely scratched. He was the first player I saw who was clearly playing position on the one ball after the break.

Lassiter's strengths included a burning desire to win, NEVER letting down in a match, always giving his best effort on EVERY shot (he understood how easy it was to get out of line on an easy shot) and the relentless pursuit of perfection. For example he could play a flawless match and win easily, but afterward when questioned, remember the shot where he got out of line and had to make a bank shot. He rarely gave himself credit for playing well. He expected to win every match he played and a loss alarmed and dismayed him. But he could, and did, come back from the loser's side to win many tournaments. He could not countenance losing.

To say Lassiter was consumed with pool is an understatement. He literally lived, ate and breathed pool. It was his entire reason for being. He was never married and only had one brief relationship when he was a young man. It didn't work out and he never went that route again. He was not one to sit around and lament his lot in life or question the sport he was so gifted at. He didn't waste his time comparing his life with that of athletes in other sports. He was a pool player, and he knew it and he embraced it. His only concern was his next game, his next opponent and the next tournament.

Everything he did was designed to help him be the best player possible. Proper rest, good diet and supportive relationships were the things he nurtured. He had a small circle of family and friends who were close to him. Outsiders were kept at a distance. The only times I ever saw him really relax and joke around was when he was talking with Don Willis or George Rood, his two best friends in pool. With them he could have a casual conversation. He wouldn't let his guard down with anyone else.

The player who currently most reminds me of Lassiter in his attitude toward winning matches and tournaments is Ralf Souquet. He also takes losing very hard, and is fully committed to his life as a professional pool player.

I hope this helps modern fans of pool get a better idea of what made Lassiter a very special, once in a lifetime player.


You can not be any more right than that, Jay.

This was such an awesome read and you, sir, are a renaissance historian for years to come (alongside George Rood and those that have lived and seen that era). It's people like yourself that gives us youngsters an idea how the past was just as good as it is now. Although we have to keep up with the "technological advances", it's like a cycle. If Lassiter were to ever be on his prime and was sent from the past in some sort of time machine (or whatever) and get accustomed to our surroundings, I would have believed he would have been as great as Efren. :)
 
One little idiosyncrasy he had was when he had to shoot left handed. If you ever saw him shoot a shot lefty you never forgot it. He would lay his right hand down on the table palm side up. Then he would make a circular bridge with his thumb and index finger. It looked so strange, but it worked for him. I never knew anyone else to try this bridge. It was uniquely Lassiter's.


Yep also, when using his normal bridge hand I remember the nip bridge he'd use, never saw it before till then, hand closed so the fingers weren't sticking out, palm down....great bridge to have in your arsenal.
 
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One little idiosyncrasy he had was when he had to shoot left handed. If you ever saw him shoot a shot lefty you never forgot it. He would lay his right hand down on the table palm side up. Then he would make a circular bridge with his thumb and index finger. It looked so strange, but it worked for him. I never knew anyone else to try this bridge. It was uniquely Lassiter's.

There is a guy in his late 60's where I live that does the exact same thing. I was playing him one pocket one night and he used it to kick a ball from my hole. It was the strangest bridge I have ever seen. Him and his son are the only two I have ever seen do it. I will have to tell him that he is in good company. Thanks for the stories Jay.

-Brandon
 
I saw him play on Wide World of Sports several times,and in Vegas in 68 at the Stardust.The thing that struck me was,he had style,intensity.He had that look in his eyes that he knew what was going on.He played confident,assured.He was also a gentleman.Quiet,unassuming.He would be a tough guy to play.He had a great name for a player,Luther.Sounds Biblical.
 
Yep also, when using his normal bridge hand I remember the nip bridge he'd use, never saw it before till then, hand closed so the fingers weren't sticking out, palm down....great bridge to have in your arsenal.

Thanks Bill for reminding me. I think he even called it his 'nip' bridge. It looked like he had his fist on the table. Great bridge when your hand is in a cluster of balls.

One other thing, Lassiter was the 'Efren' of his era. When he played many of the other players (especially the younger ones) would crowd around to watch. They knew they might learn something. He was kind of the Corey Deuel of his era as well, always coming up with something new or a new way to shoot an old shot.
 
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One little idiosyncrasy he had was when he had to shoot left handed. If you ever saw him shoot a shot lefty you never forgot it. He would lay his right hand down on the table palm side up. Then he would make a circular bridge with his thumb and index finger. It looked so strange, but it worked for him. I never knew anyone else to try this bridge. It was uniquely Lassiter's.

When I started playing I found his book in the university library. He recommends this bridge for left handed playing. I remember trying it and it did help, as I guess using all five fingers to guide the cue help keep it straight.
 
Wimpy played tight position most of the time, within one to two feet of the object ball. He would do so with minimal cue ball travel. His cue ball control was on a par with current great Efren Reyes.

Lassiter's ball pocketing was also excellent, most balls going in the center of the pocket. He could have played on 4" pockets and still made every ball. He was unhappy with himself if the object ball went in the side of the pocket or touched a rail going in. The same with his position play. He would be noticeably disappointed if the cue ball strayed more than an inch or two from it's intended destination. In a word he was a perfectionist, much like the equally celebrated Willie Mosconi.

His break was only average, probably the weakest part of his game. Again, not unlike Reyes. But Lassiter was able to control the cue ball on the break and rarely scratched. He was the first player I saw who was clearly playing position on the one ball after the break.

Lassiter's strengths included a burning desire to win, NEVER letting down in a match, always giving his best effort on EVERY shot (he understood how easy it was to get out of line on an easy shot) and the relentless pursuit of perfection. For example he could play a flawless match and win easily, but afterward when questioned, remember the shot where he got out of line and had to make a bank shot. He rarely gave himself credit for playing well. He expected to win every match he played and a loss alarmed and dismayed him. But he could, and did, come back from the loser's side to win many tournaments. He could not countenance losing.

To say Lassiter was consumed with pool is an understatement. He literally lived, ate and breathed pool. It was his entire reason for being. He was never married and only had one brief relationship when he was a young man. It didn't work out and he never went that route again. He was not one to sit around and lament his lot in life or question the sport he was so gifted at. He didn't waste his time comparing his life with that of athletes in other sports. He was a pool player, and he knew it and he embraced it. His only concern was his next game, his next opponent and the next tournament.

Everything he did was designed to help him be the best player possible. Proper rest, good diet and supportive relationships were the things he nurtured. He had a small circle of family and friends who were close to him. Outsiders were kept at a distance. The only times I ever saw him really relax and joke around was when he was talking with Don Willis or George Rood, his two best friends in pool. With them he could have a casual conversation. He wouldn't let his guard down with anyone else.

The player who currently most reminds me of Lassiter in his attitude toward winning matches and tournaments is Ralf Souquet. He also takes losing very hard, and is fully committed to his life as a professional pool player.

I hope this helps modern fans of pool get a better idea of what made Lassiter a very special, once in a lifetime player.

Great post... thanks, jay!
 
When I started playing I found his book in the university library. He recommends this bridge for left handed playing. I remember trying it and it did help, as I guess using all five fingers to guide the cue help keep it straight.

Someone taught me this a few months ago and it REALLY helped my left handed play. I never knew it came from Lassiter! Cool.
 
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