Women at this year's U.S. Open...surprised.

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Given all the furious debating that has transpired on the forums about having ladies play against the men, I would have thought people would have had a lot of comments regarding the presence and performances of the ladies at this event.

For me, I was disappointed with the low turnout because I am always curious as to the success rate of the women vs the men, if for no other reason than entertainment value. I know some of the other pros were scheduled to play elsewhere, so that could not have been avoided.

I was hoping to see them gamble at Q-Masters, but alas, Yu Ram Cha and Rachel Abbink were not here this year.

Gerda had a lot of fans, and I thought in most instances the fans for the ladies were the most vocal, which is always encouraging.

So AZB'ers, what are your thoughts about the whole affair?
 
I thought Gerda did her thing, she gave Adam Smith a good run for his money, me thinks she cashed in the tourney which is awesome for her. As a whole the women will never be able to win against the men, at least while I am alive. Unless some monster is somewhere getting her game up I just don't see it happening. So with that said, if the women are taking spots away from Men I think they should not be allowed to play.

I don't want to sound sexist I just don't think lightweights should have to fight the heavyweights. Plus if women want equality then they don't need their own league also. Take all the money in women's pool and put it with the money in men's pool then and let them earn it. Oh wait then we would have exactly no women earning money from pool.

Women have their own events, men dont belong there, I feel the same way about the Men's events. If this were basketball though I'd have an argument for women cause they shoot significantly better than men as a whole. That's a fact women can shoot the rock. Might be too physical for them in the old NBA but this NBA doesn't play defense.

So in pool tourneys, sorry ladies just don't think you belong with the men especially without allowing the men to come play in your events.
 
Gerda was the only one that entered from the WPBA top 10. I think we have to wait until next year to see if some of the top ladies in the world enter. Did Gerda cash? Johnnyt
 
I think it's fine that the women play. It can only make them better. As far as taking spots away from the men, doesn't really matter. We all know only about 20-30 players had a chance in hell of winning the Open, so who cares who makes up the 236 players of cannon fodder? Besides, without the women, no way they make a full 256 field.
 
TimKrazyMon said:
I think it's fine that the women play. It can only make them better. As far as taking spots away from the men, doesn't really matter. We all know only about 20-30 players had a chance in hell of winning the Open, so who cares who makes up the 236 players of cannon fodder? Besides, without the women, no way they make a full 256 field.
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Spot on!

It would be one thing if the tourney was turning away players that could compete for the top spots, but since there aren't that many top-tier players (certainly not 256 of them at that level), why not let anyone that wants to play get their chance.

I'm quite sure that the top ladies play better than many of the men who enter this tourney. The better the talent level is overall, the better the tournamnet is. Hopefully next year there won't be any major scheduling conflicts and we'll get to see more than one lady from the WPBA top ten enter the US Open.
 
I am disgusted that this was the first year women were allowed to play in the us open. Its an open tournament. Not the US mens nine ball. I always thought an open tournament meant you could play if you qualified and were not discluded if you were black or green or a woman. This was the first year? why? do these guys want a pat on the back for being discriminating pieces of shite for 34 years?
 
Hey Mikey the ladies tournaments are called ladies tournaments. Not open tournaments. If it were the US MENS nine ball then thats fine. This is an open event.
 
Several of the women who played this year were past winners of the Ladies US Open while it was still ran by Barry. Barry gave them free entry into the tournament just as he does men past US Open winners. I think it will be better next year, if there isn't another scheduling conflict, where the top ladies will be able to play. That is if they want to kick up the entry and nut involved, since most of the top ladies won't be getting the free entry since they weren't past winners of Barry's US Opens. If they do, I expect a few more will cash and maybe upset some of the lower echelon men pros, but I don't think we'll see any ladies going too far in the tourney in my lifetime.
 
Poor argument dorabelle...do the women play with the men in the US Open golf tourney or US Open tennis tourney? No. "Open" does not mean open to all. At the very least, you need to win a qualifier to play in an "open" event...in your division.

I actually like the idea of the women playing with the men, so don't take the above as an effort to separate them. That was one thing the IPT got right.
 
dorabelle said:
Hey Mikey the ladies tournaments are called ladies tournaments. Not open tournaments. If it were the US MENS nine ball then thats fine. This is an open event.
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Yeah, but they have a "Ladies US Open" which is kind of an oxymoron. Used to be ran by Barry, but the WPBA took it over several years ago.
 
mosconiac said:
Poor argument dorabelle...do the women play with the men in the US Open golf tourney or US Open tennis tourney? No. "Open" does not mean open to all. At the very least, you need to win a qualifier to play in an "open" event...in your division.

I actually like the idea of the women playing with the men, so don't take the above as an effort to separate them. That was one thing the IPT got right.
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Hey bud, remember when I put the word qualify in there? Do those women qualify against the men in tennis or golf? If they do they they should play! Same with this open tournament. Its about skill level and not what is between your legs.
 
mosconiac said:
Poor argument dorabelle...do the women play with the men in the US Open golf tourney or US Open tennis tourney? No. "Open" does not mean open to all. At the very least, you need to win a qualifier to play in an "open" event...in your division.

I actually like the idea of the women playing with the men, so don't take the above as an effort to separate them. That was one thing the IPT got right.
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No, this is not the case. The qualifiers only get you free entry to the tournament. Any human can enter if you get your entry paid early enough.
 
Can one of you big strong men please tell my stupid little woman brain what an open tournment is?
 
dorabelle said:
Can one of you big strong men please tell my stupid little woman brain what an open tournment is?
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This not-terribly-big nor terribly-strong guy will tell you that it's whatever the tournament director/sponsor wants it to be. There aren't any rules or regulations about using the term "open" for your tournament.

One would think the definition should be something along the lines of either requiring an invite or qualifier to play, or not. That doesn't really apply strictly in any of the "opens" that I've seen. The US Open Pool Tournament is truly "open"; you got the dough, you can play. I do not believe that is the case for golf or tennis.

Short answer, an "open" tournament is whatever the heck the promoter wants it to be!
 
mosconiac said:
Poor argument dorabelle...do the women play with the men in the US Open golf tourney or US Open tennis tourney? No. "Open" does not mean open to all. At the very least, you need to win a qualifier to play in an "open" event...in your division.

I actually like the idea of the women playing with the men, so don't take the above as an effort to separate them. That was one thing the IPT got right.
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Women are completely eligible to compete in the U.S. Open Golf Championship if they qualify, just like any male player. And this is in addition to the U.S. Women's Open that the USGA also runs.

The USGA does not have a Men's US Open Championship.
 
I think it is great that women can play in the USopen.

Now I dont think any special treatment should be given to a male or female. This year they gave $1000 to the top female finisher. Now if I enter it, I pay my $500 and I dont get a special incentive of $1000 for the top finishing banger! I feel that we are all playing the same game under the same rules and gender does not matter in the game of pool, so there shouldnt be a female tour or a mens tour, it should just be one tour. That is my opinion and I will probably get flamed for it.
 
justadub said:
This not-terribly-big nor terribly-strong guy will tell you that it's whatever the tournament director/sponsor wants it to be. There aren't any rules or regulations about using the term "open" for your tournament.

One would think the definition should be something along the lines of either requiring an invite or qualifier to play, or not. That doesn't really apply strictly in any of the "opens" that I've seen. The US Open Pool Tournament is truly "open"; you got the dough, you can play. I do not believe that is the case for golf or tennis.

Short answer, an "open" tournament is whatever the heck the promoter wants it to be!
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Thanks justadub. For 34 years the US open was open to some people who had the dough that could play.
 
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