World Masters Table A Joke

Whether the table is too fast, too slow, or somewhere in between. Both opponents have to play on the same table so it comes down which team can adjust to the conditions better. So far in the past couple of days, every match has been determined by which team made the least amount of avoidable mistakes. I don't feel that the table has given any team a competitive edge over any other team.
 
Johnnyt said:
That table is waaaaaaay too fast. No team has really played shape well at all. IMO between, the wooden rack and the ice surface speed of the table is why nothing is going on the breaks. The balls are just sliding into the rail when hit, and/or the spot is in the wrong place or the cloth was cleaned with the wrong stuff. That table is in no way playing anywhere near a Diamond. Fix it. It's not just the hot lights. Johnnyt
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Is it just me? Or does it look like the OB is sliding after contact a lot more than usual.
 
BJK said:
The 9 ball is on the spot, not the 1. Probably explains the tough breaking.
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Is moving the rack forward for the small table player or the norm for this venue? Looks OK.
Seems like turning the rack perpendicular with the nine on the spot wouldn’t be any problem either.
 
The Niels Feijin Scratch

This just should not happen on a proper table.

The follow held on his CB beyond the second rail, then grabbing to arc into the middle pocket, which is an impossible shot from that angle with outside english.

Here's the shot:
 

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when you are a traveling pool professional, you should not always expect to play in conditions suited to you. good players know how to adapt and adjust.
also, this is a big tournament. new table cloths are installed on big tournaments most of the time.
 
I've never seen a diamond table play like this one. Even with new cloth.

It was the first or second rack where mike dechaine missed by a diamond and it still skid in.
 
Colin Colenso said:
This just should not happen on a proper table.

The follow held on his CB beyond the second rail, then grabbing to arc into the middle pocket, which is an impossible shot from that angle with outside english.

Here's the shot:
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Colin, I have seen those scratches on a Diamond before, but not on a Brunswick.

I hate Diamond :grin-square:
 
pooladdict said:
Colin, I have seen those scratches on a Diamond before, but not on a Brunswick.

I hate Diamond :grin-square:
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I have seen it when the OB is nearer the pocket, but the 1 ball was nearly a foot away. It penalizes the power shot players because it distorts all the natural angles significantly.

A couple of games before Niels powered up with inside to go 3 rails and nearly scratched in the corner. The usual angle the CB would travel on that shot is about 1 diamond past middle pocket.

Because the spin takes much longer to grab, the power shots become far less controllable.

We could make the same arguments about adapting to conditions or it being the same for both players if tennis pros were put on a mud court, or a glass court, but I'm sure the game would suffer and the players would protest.

I think it's a serious issue and the pros should make a stand about attempts to make the main tourney tables closer to practice conditions.

Colin
 
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Colin Colenso said:
I have seen it when the OB is nearer the pocket, but the 1 ball was nearly a foot away. It penalizes the power shot players because it distorts all the natural angles significantly.

A couple of games before Niels powered up with inside to go 3 rails and nearly scratched in the corner. The usual angle the CB would travel on that shot is about 1 diamond past middle pocket.

Because the spin takes much longer to grab, the power shots become far less controllable.

We could make the same arguments about adapting to conditions or it being the same for both players if tennis pros were put on a mud court, or a glass court, but I'm sure the game would suffer and the players would protest.

I think it's a serious issue and the pros should make a stand about attempts to make the main tourney tables closer to practice conditions.

Colin
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I think all the players would agree BUT I think this setup makes for a better spectator experience since seeing the players struggle a bit makes these short races more exciting. If all the players were comfortable on the table I think the racks would tend to be more predictable.
 
 
BeiberLvr said:
His teammate, Nick had a similar scratch.

https://youtu.be/hwft3Q5kN0k?t=14m
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I don't see any follow still on the ball after the second rail in this shot as Colin was talking about in the shot he referenced. I didn't see the one he was talking about so I can't comment on that one.

On a side note, this table doesn't seem to me to be any faster in speed than the average table used in big professional events these days.
 
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