World Ten Ball - Will the show go on? Will it be cancelled?
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ASalvador said:
Putch did great as an Event Promoter without ever needing an NSA's affiliation power. He ran Puyat Sports as a smart businessman.
Regarding WPC, Yen dreamt big bucks and he got burned. Now he wants to make up for all his bad business decisions at the sport's expense.
Ted Lerner? You mean the one whose wife kept complaining about the commission they got from Yen?
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ASalvador said:
Sad thing about your group being there in just the last 3 1/2 years is that you did worse than the whole of the 2+ decades of the worthless BSCP!
The Alex and Guinness Qualifier issue all happened during your watch.
Putch was only in BSCP at the same time as you guys, except for Ernie, and he left your horrible bunch immediately. Raya should be like Puyat Sports during the deTagle BSCP era, purely an events Promotions Group without the power to brandish the WPA "affiliation" badge. Dumb corrupt Martial Law years residue. Wasn't Yen ol' Martial Law Supemo's speech writer? Ahhh, got left behind by this democratic society I see.
That he did.bandido said:
Brought Team USA to the Philippines. Brought Nick Varner and Johnny Archer to the Philippines for challenge matches against Efren.
Team USA had nothing but nice things to say about Mr. Puyat.
ASalvador said:
Puyat was responsible for sending Efren, Busti and other filipino champions to events around the world. For decades! Without him, there might not be any filipino legacy in the pool world. He is an unsung hero in the pool world, and most people don't even know who he is. Except in the Philippines.
I would say it's a big mistake to knock this guy.
Billiards top guns due for World 10-ball
Wednesday, September 17, 2008
Vice President Noli de Castro will be the guest of honor when the country hosts the inaugural World 10-Ball Championships at the Philippine International Convention Center starting Sept. 29.
The Vice-President graces the opening rite set at 9:30 a.m., before doing the ceremonial break formally ushering in the group stage of the meet about thirty minutes later.
The world’s top 128 players representing 40 countries are vying for the total $400,000 purse at stake, $100,000 of which goes to the champion.
“This is going to be the biggest international billiards tournament in the country since I believe the World 9-Ball Championship has been postponed for next year. Billiards top guns are coming,” said Raya Sports president Yen Makabenta of the week-long tournament that ends on Oct. 5.
By big-time players Makabenta meant the likes of reigning world 9-ball champion Daryl Peach of Great Britain, former titlists Ralf Souquet and Thomas Engert of Germany, Chinese-Taipei’s Wu-Chia-Ching and Americans Johnny Archer and Shane Van Boening.
Also chairman of the Billiards and Snooker Congress of the Philippines (BSCP), Makabenta appeared at the PSA Forum yesterday at the Shakey’s UN Avenue branch, accompanied by BSCP treasurer Sebastian Chua and spokesman Jun Diokno.
A seven-man contingent banner the Filipino side led by former Asian snooker champion Marlon Manalo, Doha Asian Games gold medalist Antonio Gabica, Jeffrey de Luna, Elvis Calasang, Elmer Kalaquian, Jerico Banares and Mario Tolentino.
A five-day qualifying meet is slated from Sept. 23-27 at the Star Billiards Center to complete the cast of players seeing action in the main tournament, an opportunity tournament organizers hope will see some of the Philippines’ top bets competing.
“It would be good if everybody would take part. But if they don’t we can’t do anything about it,” said Makabenta in the forum sponsored by Shakey’s, Accel, Brickroad gym and Aspen spa and MedCentral Medical Clinic and Diagnostic Center.
maybe it's really going to to happen...
Wednesday, September 17, 2008
Vice President Noli de Castro will be the guest of honor when the country hosts the inaugural World 10-Ball Championships at the Philippine International Convention Center starting Sept. 29.
The Vice-President graces the opening rite set at 9:30 a.m., before doing the ceremonial break formally ushering in the group stage of the meet about thirty minutes later.
The world’s top 128 players representing 40 countries are vying for the total $400,000 purse at stake, $100,000 of which goes to the champion.
“This is going to be the biggest international billiards tournament in the country since I believe the World 9-Ball Championship has been postponed for next year. Billiards top guns are coming,” said Raya Sports president Yen Makabenta of the week-long tournament that ends on Oct. 5.
By big-time players Makabenta meant the likes of reigning world 9-ball champion Daryl Peach of Great Britain, former titlists Ralf Souquet and Thomas Engert of Germany, Chinese-Taipei’s Wu-Chia-Ching and Americans Johnny Archer and Shane Van Boening.
Also chairman of the Billiards and Snooker Congress of the Philippines (BSCP), Makabenta appeared at the PSA Forum yesterday at the Shakey’s UN Avenue branch, accompanied by BSCP treasurer Sebastian Chua and spokesman Jun Diokno.
A seven-man contingent banner the Filipino side led by former Asian snooker champion Marlon Manalo, Doha Asian Games gold medalist Antonio Gabica, Jeffrey de Luna, Elvis Calasang, Elmer Kalaquian, Jerico Banares and Mario Tolentino.
A five-day qualifying meet is slated from Sept. 23-27 at the Star Billiards Center to complete the cast of players seeing action in the main tournament, an opportunity tournament organizers hope will see some of the Philippines’ top bets competing.
“It would be good if everybody would take part. But if they don’t we can’t do anything about it,” said Makabenta in the forum sponsored by Shakey’s, Accel, Brickroad gym and Aspen spa and MedCentral Medical Clinic and Diagnostic Center.
maybe it's really going to to happen...
jeffwinters said:
Is Yen the new chairman for WPA?
Why is he so happy that the W9B has been postponed?
Is Yen trying to be like Matchroom for W10B in the World in the future?
Why is it the biggest event, when other great Phillippine players are not taking part?
Other players from other countries should boycott and support the Philippine player. Why are they competing?
... because it is biggest event at this year ,whit those Phillippine players or noticem3n said:
....Why heaven sake? .... this situation is politicks of Phillipine pool community .....it has nothing to do whit other world ....... dont forget ....this is WPA 10bwc ,organise by Raya .....if some players dont like to play there,because Makabenta...well,it is pity ,but thats all ...... Phillipines has to solve they own problems in they community and not pull that to international levelicem3n said:Other players from other countries should boycott and support the Philippine player. Why are they competing?
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JB Cases said:
Well, as Doug said, all events organised by Matchroom Sports have a contract between themselves and the Players.
Raya Sports have now issued their own contract for the WTBC, ( http://www.worldtenball.com/files/Conditions_of_Entry.pdf )
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Peter@CEP said:
I couldn't help but note that the WPA is getting 5% of the prize fund as a "sanction fee".
That's only $20,000! Nice work if you can get it.
I'm wondering too about the Bank Account details questionnaire but did get an answer from Virginia Gil. So payment on the Prize Money takes 2 weeks if they have the money.
My math gives me a total of 19M Pesos MAX looking at their sponsors page and digging around for actual figures contributed. Mostly estimates but estimates from within. Still a long ways to go to 30+M required. Internal Revenue friend and brother of a former Immigrations Dept. Commissioner, who was here earlier, was also estimating the tax money that they should expect turned over by RAYA. Not bad he says and they will definitely get theirs.
<<<<nephew of a former Immigrations Commissioner during Yen's era as a Pres. Speechwriter.
My math gives me a total of 19M Pesos MAX looking at their sponsors page and digging around for actual figures contributed. Mostly estimates but estimates from within. Still a long ways to go to 30+M required. Internal Revenue friend and brother of a former Immigrations Dept. Commissioner, who was here earlier, was also estimating the tax money that they should expect turned over by RAYA. Not bad he says and they will definitely get theirs.
<<<<nephew of a former Immigrations Commissioner during Yen's era as a Pres. Speechwriter.
We know that the players who are in the money will have to pay 5% to the WPA, that is clear from the outset.
What I find puzzling is that the organisers don't know if prize money is also subject to tax.
Couldn't they simply ask the tax authorities so that players won't get a shock when they receive their winnings?
4.2 In the event that the prize money mentioned in clause 4.1 is subject to Philippine withholding
taxes the Promoter shall have the right to deduct such taxes from the prize money. The Player
will be given a withholding tax certificate showing the amount deducted enabling the Player
to make a claim to offset this tax against his tax liabilities.
What I find puzzling is that the organisers don't know if prize money is also subject to tax.
Couldn't they simply ask the tax authorities so that players won't get a shock when they receive their winnings?
4.2 In the event that the prize money mentioned in clause 4.1 is subject to Philippine withholding
taxes the Promoter shall have the right to deduct such taxes from the prize money. The Player
will be given a withholding tax certificate showing the amount deducted enabling the Player
to make a claim to offset this tax against his tax liabilities.
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They do it here in the states too, taking 30% from a foreign player/citizen who has no U.S. social security number. Some countries are exempt from this, like England and a few others. But Canadian players are not??? Foreign players can get a National Identification number, that works like a social security number here. I've helped a few of the Canadian players get them, because they play here so often. I suspect American players are exempt in the Philippines, but I could be wrong.
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no more update on this? anyone flying in to Manila?
no more update on this? anyone flying in to Manila?
jay helfert said:
Philippine tax code exclusion says;
Prizes and Awards in Sports Competition. - All prizes and awards granted to athletes in local and international sports competitions and tournaments whether held in the Philippines or abroad and sanctioned by their national sports associations.
I'm not so sure if this applies to foreign players, but if there will be tax it shouldn't be higher than 25%. Usually only the promoters are taxed based on the income of the event.
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