WPBA Viejas Vehemence

watchez said:
Well Mark, when I brought this possibility up last month - Anne Craig stated that she had nothing to do with sponsorships or arranging of the tour itself. I was confused by her response that the president had nothing to do with this.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=2254679&postcount=26
Click to expand...

I never said that the President had nothing to do with Sponsorships etc... in the original post you link to, someone had stated that I perhaps was responsible for signing venues and sponsors, I was refuting that fact with my response - that I dealt with day to day operations, not contracts. That was all.

The Board of Directors and contracted associates were responsible for contract negotiations during my tenure with the WPBA. There wasn't "one" person but a few.

Hope that clears things up.
 
I'm actually kind of surprised it took this long for all of the dissension to come to light..... There was quite a bit of rumbling even at the Regional Tour Championships when John Rousseau proposed some of his ideas.

As a player and someone who aspires to a top level, it's quite disconcerting when such issues are finally brought to the public knowledge and seem to insinuate a tour basically floundering in the water. I for one, hope whole-heartedly that something can be done to salvage what little of a pro tour we have at the moment. Whether John is the person to do it remains to be seen, but in order to save and re-market themselves, tough and risky decisions may have to be made.

After all, the Einstein saying goes "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."

Ashley Nandrasy
 
The WPBA as a business entity is in bad shape. Rousseau didn't put them in this spot. He is trying to make things happen which means things have to change. If what went before was successful in today's environment we would be talking about a full schedule instead of two events.

One of two things can happen, IMO, the players and principles will get together and agree that things have to be changed or the tour will fail and go away. Sometimes you need someone to speak the hard truths and lead. If people decide they prefer to proceed in the same manner that led them to the current situation they should not be shocked when the end result is more of the same.

Bottom line is the tour is on life support. I don't know if Rousseau is the guy to save it or help make progress but he is the guy willing to stand up and take the beating while trying. If I was a member I would be of the opinion that he can say or do pretty much what he wants if the results are there. If he does not produce he won't be around long anyway and frankly I don't think things could get much worse so why not let the guy try ?

If the players decide on Saturday that they want to go another way I hope they have a real plan for the future instead of taking out their frustrations born of past leadership decisions on the current President.

I know one thing for certain. It is easy to snipe and sling arrows at someone trying to lead. It is much harder to honestly analyze a situation and learn from past mistakes in order to move forward in a positive direction. The WPBA has much to be proud of. Hopefully that pride is tempered with a strong grip on the current reality.

Honestly a lot of the things I am hearing about the current situation reminds me of rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Focus and cooperation is what's needed instead of worrying that someone may have said something in a manner that did not give the listener a warm feeling.

I spoke with John tonight for awhile and I believe he truly wants the WPBA to succeed and is willing to work hard toward that goal. I also believe he will pack it in and not be a punching bag if the majority want to concentrate on things other than progress.

I guess for me all the drama comes down to this. If the players do not want to deal with John all they have to do is get together and say the word. Then they have to go out and save their own tour.

There is an old saying that a giraffe is a horse designed by committee. I can't help but think of that when I see and experience some of things I have witnessed dealing with the WPBA. All good people without a doubt but it takes more than that to survive in today's environment. I hope they get it done and will help however I can.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
This is, without a doubt, the STUPIDEST thing Mr. Rousseau could have done. Publicly mentioning an investment before it happens usually ends with the investment never occurring. Putting Goldman-Sachs's business out there before a done deal is like publicly saying you had sex with a girl before you even kissed her. The girl is usually shocked and then offended...and ultimately tells you to find someone else to date.

Rousseau... if you're reading this.... "amateur move" in letting the room pressure you into publicly mentioning something like that.

Dave
Click to expand...
The guy didnt put out a press release. He disclosed a possible future business deal with partners. That is what each WPBA player in that meeting is basically.

If you can not discuss business with your partners I think you have some very serious problems.
 
while i do agree that there were serious issues before john took office there a few basic things that the tour needs - one being tour stops. to only have one stop confirmed at this point, and with the season already started, is a little insane.
 
I never could figure out why the WPBA needs seven board members and a president. Johnnyt
 
FrogKissin said:
I never said that the President had nothing to do with Sponsorships etc... in the original post you link to, someone had stated that I perhaps was responsible for signing venues and sponsors, I was refuting that fact with my response - that I dealt with day to day operations, not contracts. That was all.

The Board of Directors and contracted associates were responsible for contract negotiations during my tenure with the WPBA. There wasn't "one" person but a few.

Hope that clears things up.
Click to expand...

FrogKissin said:
One of the things I was NOT responsible for, signing up venues and sponsors, that task went directly to the Board of Directors - I was an office & event administrator.
Click to expand...

Ummmm - I think you need to read your own words again. You even put the word NOT in bold capital letters.

What am I not understanding?
 
I kinda figured things were bad, but I had no idea that the tour had essentially reached critical mass. Here's hoping that John or someone can right the ship and bring the WPBA back to life.


WPBA is officially on life support.:eek::yikes::shakehead::shocked2:


:help::help::help:
 
It's very sad to see a tour that I have followed for years reach this point. And while I'm sure the economy has been a huge factor, my biggest complaint with the WPBA over the years has been a lack of promotion.

The last two times the tour had stops here, there was virtually no advanced publicity outside of the WPBA website and the forums like this. As a result, there was a very limited number of people who even knew the tour was here. The local APA provided players to perform shot clock services and other support functions, so there were a few league players who knew about it, and made some time to come out. But a metro area of over a million people should be able to provide more than a hundred or so people who want to fill the stands.

Empty stands do not attract sponsorship.

Steve
 
SUPERSTAR said:
Did i call it or WHAT!
AZ headline

SHIP IT!

Thank you Jerry Forsyth, thank you

The San Diego Classic began as a classic dogfight in the players meeting. With Board members unable to communicate to the media unscreened it is difficult to find the answers to any of these questions.
Click to expand...



Every secret society( USSR,CHINA,N.KOREA,IRAN, G.W.Bush & Chainey) will crumble one day! WPBA became a secret society and it had the same fate like the other scret societies. Need transparency inorder to reduce the paranoia of the paranoids, otherwise the paranoics will revolt and cause major damage.

PS: I don`t have interest in politics but politics is the reality of life.I am here in san diego to watch good pool played by the beautiful ladies.:cool:
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top