I am sick and tired of hearing stories about how such and such player was unbeatable at a certain time. Well it seems like every f***ing player in the world was unbeatable from the way everyone puts it. If all of these guys were unbeatable, does that mean they broke even every time they played each other? Cut the bullshit pool player folklore. I don't give a crap how good Buddy Hall played from 1980-something to 1980-whogivesashit, he was beatable then, so was Mike Sigel, and so was Willie Mosconi. Man I swear pool players love to wade knee deep in bullshit.
Yes, He Was Beatable, Shut Up Please
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I think the women thought that Allison unbeatable. She won every tournament that she played in for a few years. When someone says so and so was unbeatable I don't think that they are referring to never losing a game but rather they won a string of tournaments in a row.
I have heard that Buddy was unbeatable when it came to a 9 ball money game. They say that he was the best and this was said by other top pro players.
I have heard some old local pros brag that they beat so and so. When in reality all they did was win a few games in a race. I think Fats did this. He claimed that he beat every player and he was the best. We all know that he was full of crap and nothing more than a average pro player.
I think it is different when other players speak highly of you instead of blowing your own horn.
I have heard that Buddy was unbeatable when it came to a 9 ball money game. They say that he was the best and this was said by other top pro players.
I have heard some old local pros brag that they beat so and so. When in reality all they did was win a few games in a race. I think Fats did this. He claimed that he beat every player and he was the best. We all know that he was full of crap and nothing more than a average pro player.
I think it is different when other players speak highly of you instead of blowing your own horn.
I agree... Everybody is beatable. In fact I know a player that beat Buddy back in the early 80's. It was Dan Louie from Seattle. He was on the road and had stopped in a town in Louisiana for a few days. Someone called Buddy and he drove up from Texas. They played two matches of 10 Ahead (I think) and Dan won the first match in a couple of hours. The second match was an overnight marathon, but Dan pulled it out. I know it was for no small about of money also. Maybe Linda Carter can talk to Danny and get the details, as I am not remembering what he told me so well.
Most of the players that these people are heaping accolades on are their own worst enemies anyway. They are rarely rich. Rarely people of outstanding character. And rarely what I would model my American dream life after. Oops! That should piss some people off!
Most of the players that these people are heaping accolades on are their own worst enemies anyway. They are rarely rich. Rarely people of outstanding character. And rarely what I would model my American dream life after. Oops! That should piss some people off!
Swordfish said:And others like to stir it around
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cuetechasaurus said:
Techasaurus,
Well, after losing an exhibition series to Greenleaf when he was a pup, Mosconi went over 15 years with no one beating him in a long match (to at least 1000 in straight pool) - that's pretty close to unbeatable.
I do, however agree that I get a little tired of hearing the stories you describe. A corollary to your theory is the line you always hear, "So-and-So is a great player, he challenged Efren/Johnny/Earl and they wouldn't play him." To me, that usually means So-and-So is just a nobody(or perhaps a slimeball); but to others it means So-and-So is the greatest player ever. I think it is a TERRIBLE idea to judge a player's skill based on the caliber of player that refuses to gamble with them.
It was 1977
It was 1977 in Baton Rouge. Lunchmoney and I were there at the Greenway. The match up was playing on the big table but using the BIG cue ball. The following weekend Dan busted Louie Roberts in Jackson, MS. Yes, Dan Louie was a hell of a player and a great guy.
BillYards said:
It was 1977 in Baton Rouge. Lunchmoney and I were there at the Greenway. The match up was playing on the big table but using the BIG cue ball. The following weekend Dan busted Louie Roberts in Jackson, MS. Yes, Dan Louie was a hell of a player and a great guy.
Complain to Hollywood, they started all this crap with the invicible superheros.cuetechasaurus said:
BillYards said:
I was there that night as was Hemicuda's and Dan indeed did beat Buddy two straight sets of 10 ahead. If I remember correctly it was for $2,000 a set. I left before the second match started, but Dan was staying with my partner and I while he was down there and I got filled in on the details of the second set the next day.
Lunchmoney
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rackmsuckr said:
Hey Linda,
He didn't happen to say that this was in 1980 did he? Me and some high school friends cleared out of Greenway once in 1980 when some h'rollers showed up wanting to match up to anybody with a quarter in their pocket. Seems to me they may have also played on the 9 footer in the back room
(where most of the money games took place).
Terry
Tbeaux said:
The match took place in 1977.
Tbeaux said:
Don't know what year, forgot to ask.
He was adamant about being 8 footers though, because I made him repeat it. Besides, I have never heard of a big cue ball on a 9'.