Justin Bergman vs Tom Cousins

The rules are quite different - enough to cost you if you don’t learn them. For example:

On a CB frozen to your own OB, you must shoot away from the OB (and you are deemed to have hit that ball). If the OB you are frozen to moves it’s a foul.

You can’t play a “dirty combo” on a open table (stripe into solid etc).

You have to be careful about nominating balls in various situations.

You can’t play a deliberate foul (eg pushing opponents balls together if you have no shot). It’s a loss of game. Same if you don’t make enough of an effort to hit your ball on a kick.

Loss of game if you grab the CB as it scratches (I believe Shane lost a game that way in the event he played).

There are others. My point isn’t that Shane can’t win with those rules, my point is that if he doesn’t learn them well enough it can cost him at key moments.
Also touch fouls on any ball with body or clothing.

Justin Bergman vs Tom Cousins

other than the 8 on the spot are the rules that different? it would have been smarter to challenge tyler or someone like that

The rules are quite different - enough to cost you if you don’t learn them. For example:

On a CB frozen to your own OB, you must shoot away from the OB (and you are deemed to have hit that ball). If the OB you are frozen to moves it’s a foul.

You can’t play a “dirty combo” on a open table (stripe into solid etc).

You have to be careful about nominating balls in various situations.

You can’t play a deliberate foul (eg pushing opponents balls together if you have no shot). It’s a loss of game. Same if you don’t make enough of an effort to hit your ball on a kick.

Loss of game if you grab the CB as it scratches (I believe Shane lost a game that way in the event he played).

There are others. My point isn’t that Shane can’t win with those rules, my point is that if he doesn’t learn them well enough it can cost him at key moments.

Justin Bergman vs Tom Cousins

I think if you think one player is better than the other based on one race to 30, you have some screws loose. Yes, I picked Justin, but said that I could see it go either way easily. Tom got out to a hot start, but Justin won more games after being down 10 early. This could have gone the other way any day. They are both great players.
Over the past year they met a few tomes on the UP table, what’s the balance?
Add this event and you’ll know who is better between the two

K55 - Cushions. Superspeed Vrs ? Similar content

So the nose height is slightly different between the Artemis and a Superspeed? So that must mean a K55 can vary in nose height depending on the manufacturer, I always thought that all K55's were the same. Or is it that the Artemis IC K66 is not an exact copy of a K55, and why would Artemis flop the 55 and 66 numbers around after putting "Intercontinental" before it?? Its all very confusing. 😊
Not all K55 profiles are the same. Intercontinental 66 has a much larger nose radius than Superspeed. though, the nose height for Artemis Intercontinental 66 (K55) and Superspeed (K55) should be pretty close to the same, when installed on the same sub-rail.

It is important to note that Glen and Mark sparked the widespread desire for Brunswick sub-rail modification (or calibration, as some refer to it), approximately 17 years ago. At that time, Artemis Intercontinental 66 were the cushion of choice. Being a carom cushion with a large nose radius, they tend to bank fairly springy. Because of that, it is preferable to set the height just a touch higher than a standard cushion. Setting the nose height for an Intercontinental 66 at 1 29/64", with a sub-rail height of 1 11/16" makes it play pretty well. And so, the Blue Label Diamond specification was born.

But, where does that 1 29/64" nose height come from? From Brunswick. That was the original Brunswick specified nose height, using a 1 23/32" sub-rail height. The tolerance is +1/32"/-1/64". Often times, when we modify these Brunswick rails, that's the nose height target that most of us will shoot for, to maintain consistency with Glen and Mark, regardless of which cushion we use. When we modify these rails, we drop the height of the sub-rail to 1 11/16" (1/32" lower than the manufactured height). This is to provide a consistent height at the top of the sub-rail. Typically, when you lower the height of the sub-rail, It's most desirable to also reduce the nose height, to maintain consistent rebound speed and angle. In theory, the reduction in nose height should be about 36% of the reduction in sub-rail height. That said, a Brunswick Superspeed cushion, mounted on a 1 11/16" sub-rail, should have a nose height of 1.442" (1 7/16").

Because there are no agreed upon written standards, there are still a large number of people that believe that the nose height on a Gold Crown should measure in the range of 1.406-1.438". What is correct? Who knows... But, in order to maintain some sort of consistency, we should follow a standard. Since Glen and Mark have spoken the loudest, It's not a bad idea to follow their lead. Especially considering that Glen developed the rail specifications for the Blue Label Diamond and Mark developed the rail specifications for the Gold Crown VII.

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Justin Bergman vs Tom Cousins

Some of the funniest excuses I've seen:

"Race to 30 is dumb, they should play 10 ahead instead." - OK, well in that case it'd have been over in 12 games.

"Justin just took awhile to figure out the break." - Sure, but breaking is kind of important. Also, in total they both broke similarly.

"Shoulda been winner breaks, alternating break is dumb"

"vs. Skyler he'd have no chance" - LOL

"
[John Mars] Tom can play SVB next if he wants to win a house" - SVB could win himself a new bass boat if he wanted to play Josh, Alex (1P), or Fedor (any game)

It's so hard sometimes for us Americans to give others credit. Tom Cousins is an incredible player and he beat the brakes off of Bergman last night. And yes, winning by 5 games with an alternating break is pretty convincing
The callouts from Mars get old. Yes, we know you stake Shane one of the greatest players in the history of pool.

If you were staking Tyler and calling out people, would be a lot different.

Justin Bergman vs Tom Cousins

I think if you think one player is better than the other based on one race to 30, you have some screws loose. Yes, I picked Justin, but said that I could see it go either way easily. Tom got out to a hot start, but Justin won more games after being down 10 early. This could have gone the other way any day. They are both great players.

Justin Bergman vs Tom Cousins

Some of the funniest excuses I've seen:

"Race to 30 is dumb, they should play 10 ahead instead." - OK, well in that case it'd have been over in 12 games.

"Justin just took awhile to figure out the break." - Sure, but breaking is kind of important. Also, in total they both broke similarly.

"Shoulda been winner breaks, alternating break is dumb"

"vs. Skyler he'd have no chance" - LOL

"
[John Mars] Tom can play SVB next if he wants to win a house" - SVB could win himself a new bass boat if he wanted to play Josh, Alex (1P), or Fedor (any game)

It's so hard sometimes for us Americans to give others credit. Tom Cousins is an incredible player and he beat the brakes off of Bergman last night. And yes, winning by 5 games with an alternating break is pretty convincing

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