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mikepage · 2025-11-11T14:08:01-0700

AtLarge said:
Not so. Over his 18 years at the Mosconi Cup, Shane's record is actually a bit better than the aggregate record of the other players on those 18 USA teams: https://forums.azbilliards.com/thre...yed-on-either-team.464772/page-4#post-8007067

For singles and doubles matches combined, he was in more wins than losses in 8 of the 18 years, more losses than wins in 8 years, and an equal number of each in 2 years.

Here is Shane's Mosconi Cup Record in matches won and lost each year -- Singles, Doubles

2007 -- 2-1, 1-1
2008 -- 1-2, 0-2
2009 -- 2-1, 1-1
2010 -- 1-1, 1-2

2011 -- 2-1, 1-2
2012 -- 1-2, 2-0
2013 -- 0-1, 2-0
2014 -- 0-3, 1-2
2015 -- 1-2, 2-1

2016 -- 0-1, 0-3
2017 -- 1-1, 0-3
2018 -- 2-1, 2-1
2019 -- 2-2, 3-0
2020 -- 1-2, 0-3

2021 -- 0-4, 1-2
2022 -- 0-2, 4-0
2023 -- 1-0, 1-1
2024 -- 0-1, 0-2

Totals -- 17-28 (winning percentage 38%), 22-26 (46%)

In the Team matches for those 18 years, Team USA and Team Europe each won 10 matches.

If we look at the 23 matches in the last 10 years, Shanes effective opponent rating is 832, and he would be expected to be a slight favorite overall. In those matches he won 79 games and lost 93. That's the expected performance of a player rated 808.

Bob Jewett · 2025-11-11T14:05:23-0700

Bob Jewett said:
Did the ball roll straight? ...

DrCue'sProtege said:
Yes, but as it slowly got closer and closer to the corner pocket it just seemed to want to drift/roll off to the left a little. ...

Lordy, bro, that's literally the definition of not rolling straight or rolling off. Either your table is not level or you should turn the fan down.

Or, possibly the cue ball is out of round, but in that case it would roll to both the right and left apparently randomly.

GideonF · 2025-11-11T14:05:08-0700

Bob Jewett said:
The official rules need an added book of rulings, like golf, with a thousand rare occurrences explained.

The BCA Pool League (CSI) rules have a very useful “applied rulings” that does this - probably from issues that have arisen at their events or questions from leagues. I often look at it when weird issues arise (eg whether a ball is “frozen” to a rail when it is only touching fibers from the rail).

dr_dave · 2025-11-11T13:59:15-0700

Fore Rail said:
You are creating every one of those scratches in the one rail position portion of your video. You should be starting with center ball using the resulting tangent as a baseline.

… but “natural angle” scratches are more “natural.”

Although, I do have an entire section in the video dedicated to “tangent line” scratches.

DrCue'sProtege · 2025-11-11T13:58:56-0700

Bob Jewett said:
Did the ball roll straight? You forgot to mention that critical point.

Yes, but as it slowly got closer and closer to the corner pocket it just seemed to want to drift/roll off to the left a little. Having said this, I've heard Grady Mathews and Bill Incardona talk about the CB rolling off on Accu-Stats videos before.

And MitchAlsup:
1) The table is level
2) Possibly
3) Possibly

Fore Rail · 2025-11-11T13:57:23-0700

dr_dave said:
The “natural angle” is for a rolling CB. It is the easiest to predict and control. See:

You are creating every one of those scratches in the one rail position portion of your video. You should be starting with center ball using the resulting tangent as a baseline.

Bob Jewett · 2025-11-11T13:55:30-0700

GideonF said:
... So in the clip I shared what should happen? The 2b goes down obviously, but what do we do with the balls disturbed by the 2? Leave them as they lie or try to replace them?

I'd leave them as they lie.

GideonF said:
... Oddly as written a ball that falls out the bottom of a broken pocket might not be pocketed (as it never came to rest at the bottom of the pocket) but surely that can’t be the case?

Another rare case. The official rules need an added book of rulings, like golf, with a thousand rare occurrences explained. In that particular case the general idea is that you do what you can with broken equipment to continue the game, if the game can still be contested fairly.

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