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easy-e said:
I was sitting right next to him (he's my usual practice partner) and told him after he ran out and that's when he talked to the ref about it. He wanted them to add time back on the clock but there was no way that was going to happen. I told him be careful what you wish for because if he broke dry that would have given Justin time to win it outright!
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It's loss of game in 8 ball, but only a foul in 10 ball.
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Is isolated straight-stroke practice really worth the time???

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Bob Jewett said:
It's important to have a consistent stroke.

The problem with a stroke that is consistent but not straight is that it needs to be consistent across all spins and speeds. I think that is easier to do with a straight stroke than a crooked one. I'm not sure that's true, but it seems reasonable. To do a study of beginners to see if a truly straight stroke developed skills faster would be hard and expensive.

A lot of players like the Mighty X, but I think there are much better drills at which you learn more. Start from the shots you have problems with in games. Unless long straight-ins are your only weakness, of course.

And, if you are less than about 75% success at a shot you are working on, make it easier and work up to the more challenging distance or angle.
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Thanks, Bob. Yes I agree that it definitely does seem likely to be true that a straight stroke is an important foundation. Long straight-ins are actually not a problem for me (at least as far as pocketing the object ball goes) since I have done many thousands of them over the past few years. And even my stop shots often have almost no drift and only a 1/4 turn or so of unintended spin at that distance. But up to 3 diamonds or so the stop shots are somewhat often no drift or spin. But having the cue ball follow in does seem to magnify any even a very small stroke error. Although I will say that I've heard from a few high level, very experienced players that even they are still working on their stroke. So I'm probably being somewhat unrealistic at this point to expect a consistently straight stroke. So, the journey goes on...
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easy-e
Cuebuddy said:
I watched the match and saw the controversy, but myself and the commentators did not know what it was about.

Thanks for the clarification.
AZ is lucky to have an insider like you!
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I was sitting right next to him (he's my usual practice partner) and told him after he ran out and that's when he talked to the ref about it. He wanted them to add time back on the clock but there was no way that was going to happen. I told him be careful what you wish for because if he broke dry that would have given Justin time to win it outright!
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Ultimate pool Kansas

Cuebuddy
easy-e said:
Little controversy in that last game! Playing an intentional foul is a loss of rack. Justin played an intentional foul in the last game because he was up by one and Joven only had like 90 seconds. The ref missed it, Justin missed it, and Joven didn't even know the rule.... That would have made it 5-5 with Joven breaking with 90 seconds.

Joven is a good dude.
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I watched the match and saw the controversy, but myself and the commentators did not know what it was about.

Thanks for the clarification.
AZ is lucky to have an insider like you!
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best shaft for ball pocketing/accuracy?

Bob Jewett
Hail Mary Shot said:
of course. but then again, how curved does a smaller diameter tip be over a bigger diameter tip.
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You could have a 10mm tip that was nearly flat. In theory, that would be more forgiving than a 14mm tip with a hemisphere shape.

But I think it's not hard to learn to hit the ball within a mm of center and at that point, the curvature will make very little difference.
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Is isolated straight-stroke practice really worth the time???

Bob Jewett
It's important to have a consistent stroke.

The problem with a stroke that is consistent but not straight is that it needs to be consistent across all spins and speeds. I think that is easier to do with a straight stroke than a crooked one. I'm not sure that's true, but it seems reasonable. To do a study of beginners to see if a truly straight stroke developed skills faster would be hard and expensive.

A lot of players like the Mighty X, but I think there are much better drills at which you learn more. Start from the shots you have problems with in games. Unless long straight-ins are your only weakness, of course.

And, if you are less than about 75% success at a shot you are working on, make it easier and work up to the more challenging distance or angle.
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Ultimate pool Kansas

easy-e
VarmintKong said:
I will say that it is a little bit pretentious to have a Hall of Fame for your thing when the thing isn’t even a decade old… not even a half a decade old… for goodness sake I guess this is where we’re at in all walks of life.

Regardless, congratulations to Bergman for being the first hall of famer in the annals of ultimate pool history? Party on!
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Second hall of fame. Dave Matlock was their first inductee.
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easy-e
Cuebuddy said:
I am very happy for Justin. What a week he has been through.
Glad he is out there doing what he loves.
Congrats to Joven also, he seems like a good dude.
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Little controversy in that last game! Playing an intentional foul is a loss of rack. Justin played an intentional foul in the last game because he was up by one and Joven only had like 90 seconds. The ref missed it, Justin missed it, and Joven didn't even know the rule.... That would have made it 5-5 with Joven breaking with 90 seconds.

Joven is a good dude.
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