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Assistance in ID of cue

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Hi, I have a cue that i bought in about aug or oct of 2000, the person I bought from was a collector in FWB when I lived there. From what he said it is a David Barber but was made by Freddie Yates. This is a non pointed que, all orginal from when i bought it. There are no markings on it that i can, and nothing on butt cap or under cap. This is one of the best cues i have shot with. I am just looking for assistance to positive ID this, not interested in selling it. Thank you.
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WNT Grand Prix of Pool in 2027

sjm
Most of this sounds great. Thank heaven the World Grand Prix doesn't conflict with Derby City. Derby City without Josh, Fedor and Shane would have taken a giant step backward.

Honestly, I am less invested in the continuation of the WPC than some others. Of course, I'd prefer to see it on the schedule than not, but if Matchroom is getting the money no matter what and is not contractually obligated to produce a WPC (pure speculation here), I would rather they add multiple majors rather than have one giant prize fund event. The more 9ball majors the merrier!

Matchroom is doing a much better job of scheduling over the past year than in the past and I am very pleased about it.
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CPBA Royal Apex cloth

Cord
garczar said:
Just my $.02 here but i'd never put cloth that fast on a barbox. Like playing pinball. I'd use regular 860 or ANDY600. Lot of bars/clubs in Florida use 600 on their bb's and i've heard nothing but good about it. https://shopeasternbilliards.com/products/andy-600-club-8 around 90bux for 7'.
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Agreed. ANDY 600 plays great on a barbox, and the price is hard to beat.
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Are high end predators hard to sell on the secondary market?

JasonATX
trob said:
Who the hell pays twice as much for the same car because it’s purple instead of black? They are just as dumb lol. A bk rush is $899. This isn’t a hand made custom cue. It’s just a break cue pumped out in a machine. Predator still sells them for that price a different color so it’s not them. It’s the flippers who then more then double the price. But hey a fool and his money are soon parted the saying goes so if the dumb dumbs will pay it.. might as well take it

I’ve said this before but a friend has his dad’s pre franklin south west cue. It has insane work to it. You’ve never seen anything like. A ton of scrimshaw and ivory in lays and ivory joint protectors. He contacted southwest and they said they can get 30k plus for it no problem. If he puts that on the pool table at leagues next to the latest cuetec apa players would be looking at the cuetec with no idea what the southwest is. That’s the pool world now.
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I agree with you. However, you can currently get the Teal and the Tiger Eye at retail at Biggelbach's.
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Willie hoppe cue and Brunswick case help

Cuebuddy
Nice cue.
I believe this cue to be made in Japan. It is possibly made in the late 60's to early 70's by Adam.
The blanks were made by Schmelke for these cues if I remember correctly.
Most cues of this era did not fetch as much as the earlier models.
My estimate would be in the range of $300 to $400 range depending on condition of the cue and case.
The finish and veneer colors were better on these cues then their predecessors.
You may get slightly more if the stars align.
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1984 Ray Schuler?

B
I'm hoping some of the Schuler experts here can help me identify a cue I've owned since 1984.

I purchased it at Ace Billiard Supply Co. in Denver, Colorado, on November 1, 1984. The salesman was Doug Walters. I still have the original receipt and the dealer's card.

The receipt shows: CUE — $169.95 CASE — $24.95

The cue has two shafts and is a fairly plain design: Birdseye maple, green/black speckled Irish linen wrap, white butt cap, black bumper, and dark rings. There are no visible points or elaborate inlays.

The cue weighs 20½ oz., and the shafts are 13 mm. The joint has a brass-colored male pin and a metal female insert. The threaded portion of the male pin measures approximately 5/16 inch across. There is no visible signature or logo on the cue.

One thing I have noticed is a clearly visible “911” marking on the wood immediately next to the female joint of the upper/narrower shaft. It has been there since I bought the cue. I don't see any corresponding number on the butt or the other shaft.

The cue has been stored for most of the past 40+ years and is in exceptionally good condition. Both shafts and the butt roll very well, and the joint is extremely tight.

I'm particularly interested in two things:

1. Is this likely to be an original Ray Schuler cue from around 1984? When I bought it, the salesman mentioned that is was. I think he said that he didn’t have the paperwork on it but that it probably could be gotten from Chicago if I was interested. I was not at the time.

2. Does anyone know what the “911” marking on the shaft means?

I would appreciate any information from people familiar with Ray Schuler cues, particularly cues from the 1980–1985 period.

Thank you.
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Is it time to play one pocket??

boogieman
Mensabum said:
Banks...
I can bank.
I avoid them whenever possible. I don't use them as a crutch when faced with an extreme cut angle. I'll cut the paint off a ball, as evidenced by anyone who's seen me play. That being said, how much will using banks that often change how I play other games?? Or my game in general. I've seen players win at one pocket by getting close. Approximations. Then waiting for the inevitable mistake by their opponent.
I'm hesitant.
I'm afraid I'll get sloppy. Those precise cuts will vanish, only to be replaced by banks I will have learned by playing one pocket all the time. Has anyone else noticed something like this in their game??
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Nope. If you can cut you can cut. 1P gives you enough practice with certain banks that they become hangers, and you learn some specialty stuff. So for shape reasons some banks that were iffy are no longer iffy and you might choose them for shape reasons.

I guess it really depends on the player, I don't think it will make you want to shoot banks more often per se, but it's a nice tool to have if the situation needs it... especially if you protect the CB. Overall I think it can add depth to anyone's game. There's just stuff that comes up regularly that you may never see in a year of playing other games. Once you know said "stuff", you can really count on it for an advantage in other games.
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Are high end predators hard to sell on the secondary market?

trob
skor said:
People will pay more for a different colored car and other products.
They will also pay more for a limited and special editions products although it's the same product with the same specs.
This is not just a Predator thing. Predator just realize it and know how to use it to make money.
I don't see any issues with that.
The secondary market prices are sometimes ridiculous, but this as well not just a Predator thing, there are a lot of custom cue makers these days that won't deal or sell cues directly to customers and you have to go through a dealer/flipper that adds their gain to the prices.

People collect for different reasons.
There are collections that are made from real valuable pieces and there are collections that are not. I'll give you an example from a different domain - Cameras collecting. There are cameras out there that are worth thousands of dollars that some people hunt in auctions and collect them, and there are collections of cheap cameras, like from a specific brand, like Russian cameras or collections of cheap point and shoots.

Same goes to cues, there are people who collect the top cue makers, the legendary and big cues.
Other collect a certain brand, like McDermott or Joss or in the case Predator cues.
A lot of cue companies release special edition cues that are being collected, Predator is not unique, just maybe more successful...

I have a small collection of cues, to be honest I didn't pay much for it, back when I was more into collecting, the most I paid was about $1600 for a Tim Scruggs cue. a few of my cues were won on raffles we had here, some I bought second hand, some were new but except for the TS and a McDaniel ($1500) all were under a $1000 (early 2000s values).
It's not like I didn't want a $5000 Szam or a $10000 Bushka, I was just never at a place I can afford such a thing.
Fast forward 20 years and today I'm in a mindset that I will never spend over a $1000 (today's value) on a cue and I find collecting cues a bit stupid if like me, you actually play with them as they are just a piece of wood that doesn't hold well over time.
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Who the hell pays twice as much for the same car because it’s purple instead of black? They are just as dumb lol. A bk rush is $899. This isn’t a hand made custom cue. It’s just a break cue pumped out in a machine. Predator still sells them for that price a different color so it’s not them. It’s the flippers who then more then double the price. But hey a fool and his money are soon parted the saying goes so if the dumb dumbs will pay it.. might as well take it
lakeman77 said:
Appears the cue market has changed, young new players want a cue that plays well, not looks pretty, hence high end cues are hard to sell.
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I’ve said this before but a friend has his dad’s pre franklin south west cue. It has insane work to it. You’ve never seen anything like. A ton of scrimshaw and ivory in lays and ivory joint protectors. He contacted southwest and they said they can get 30k plus for it no problem. If he puts that on the pool table at leagues next to the latest cuetec apa players would be looking at the cuetec with no idea what the southwest is. That’s the pool world now.
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Spain Wins The 2026 Isak Billiard WPA Men’s Doubles 10-Ball World Championship

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BALI, Indonesia, October 5, 2026 — Spain’s Francisco Sánchez-Ruiz and David Alcaide claimed the 2026 ISAK Billiard WPA Men’s Doubles 10-Ball World Championship, defeating the Philippines’ Carlo Biado and Albert James “AJ” Manas in the final. The Spanish pair secured the world title to close eight days of international doubles competition in Bali. Spain’s registered squad also included Jonas Souto. Sánchez-Ruiz and Alcaide reached the final by overcoming Poland’s Wojciech Szewczyk and Daniel Maciol in the semifinals. On the other side of the draw, Biado and Manas defeated Indonesia’s Irsal Nasution and Albert Januarta to earn their place in the title […]

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