Gorst, SVB, Tyler, Bergman, and .... Skyler.

It doesn't matter if they earned it or not, Matchroom needs the most competitive U.S. team to try an keep this train on the rails.

The team listed above, if given a month or two to get dialed in....ahem...Skyler...ahem.... would actually have a fighting chance. We still haven't seen a comfortable Gorst in MC play. If he plays well, the pressure would minimize for everyone else. Gorst is the key. If he plays like the number one player in the world, the U.S. could actually win. Still underdogs, but maybe +150 or so.

TheGrandWazoo said:

Needs more vibe…

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I gave a little pass. Would you be so kind as to give me your opinion now since you were so kind to give it to me in the first place. Its been incredibly difficult to get any feedback. I am thinking of adding some short videos to get people over the fear of signing up and creating leagues.

JPB2 said:

I think lack of interest is a bigger factor than fear. I personally have no interest in this. There are established pool leagues I play in. I can play people outside of leagues. I’ve played in an in- house schedule your own league that was going to end up as a ladder type deal. It died. Played in a schedule your own 14.1 league. It died. The limited places that want to do this aren’t being held back by lack of the right internet resource IMO.

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I totally get it. I myself have been on ladders that die for one reason or another. I built DuroMatch with that in mind. It makes competing in the ladder more interesting than your regular ladder. It has built in rules to motivate you to compete and discouraging you from being inactive. In a way, it is like a supra-game on top of your own. And, for those that rank well there will be opportunities beyond the local league, like participating in tournaments at city, region, country, or international level. Sure, that is not here yet, but the mechanism is in place and your kids will likely get to enjoy it.

one situation maybe where the spin affects the rebound is when the object ball is very close to the rail
you hit it full with topspin
after ball contact and rail contact the cue ball can stop /bouce off and go back to the rail
not sure this situation is what you want since really the cue balls forward spin is what brings it back to the rail

jay helfert said:

Once was enough for me. Playing in a bar in L.A. five and ten dollar eight ball. I had one of those nights, couldn't lose a game. I must have held the table for thirty or more games.

Pretty soon only one left to challenge. All the other names were off the board. He asked me if I wanted to play for 20 a game. Sure, why not. I was drinking bottled water only and feeling good. Pretty soon I'm losing every game and missing easy shots. I still felt good but somehow lost my eye.

Later on I was told (by some guy I didn't even know) what they did to me. While I was shooting someone had put something in my water bottle.

I blew back maybe 100 or so, but still left the place with a decent win. Never went back there though.

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Somebody got me one night, never knew for sure who or what. Another night I felt something small and solid in my beer. I didn't even finish the game, late for the door! I was only a few minutes from home and when whatever kicked in I wanted to be locked behind my own doors!

It was funny, people got jarred in certain places seemed like more than people jarring everywhere they went. Same clientele two places, one people would get jarred, the other not. I think somebody working there was in on the jarring, in fact I know they were!

Hu

macbookmike said:

From what I've gathered from all the replies, the cue ball will curve after hitting the object ball and then curve after hitting a rail as well until it's rolling smoothly on the cloth.

So my idea of angle in = angle out in my first diagram is incorrect if the cue ball still has a lot of top spin when it hits the rail (not rolling smoothly)? Maybe I just can't tell but when I play shots like the one in my diagram it doesn't seem like the cue ball curves off the rail and it only curves after hitting the object ball. Is it possible for the curve off the rail to be so slight that it's hard to notice?

This is opposed as to when I kick the cue ball into a rail with spin and notice immediately that the cue ball curves

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Yes, the big looping action you see after the 1st contact is kind of the only curve you'll see without slow motion.

maha said:

the old viscene eye drops worked wonders for that or just a small shot of soap.

and never ever let your eyes off a drink when gambling at some bar.
i used to walk outside and send mine flying between games. or the flower pot if they had one inside.
i would have 5 or 6 beers with only a small slug of each when i first got them.

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Once was enough for me. Playing in a bar in L.A. five and ten dollar eight ball. I had one of those nights, couldn't lose a game. I must have held the table for thirty or more games.

Pretty soon only one left to challenge. All the other names were off the board. He asked me if I wanted to play for 20 a game. Sure, why not. I was drinking bottled water only and feeling good. Pretty soon I'm losing every game and missing easy shots. I still felt good but somehow lost my eye.

Later on I was told (by some guy I didn't even know) what they did to me. While I was shooting someone had put something in my water bottle.

I blew back maybe 100 or so, but still left the place with a decent win. Never went back there though.

mikemosconi said:

I was not talking about the cloth as much as the cushions on tables like Diamond and Rasson as examples- nobody can tell me that the older GC cushions were as fast as the two I just mentioned - these tables are much faster off the rail than the older tournament GCs

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I could get 11 rails on the Anniversary table in the poolroom. Guess I'm crazy

Maniac said:

Dude, you blew it for him. How's he gonna feed his wife and kids now???

Maniac

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And himself!

straightline said:

Lol @ 3 dollars a game.
In SoCal only the black guys played for that; usually one pocket. Where do you break it down? 10 games?

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This was early eighties and we usually had a starting bet of three or five dollars a game in bars. A few years after this I played Danny Medina for three dollars a game and Johnny Archer for five a game another time. Both of these sessions were in a small bar. Almost always bets started small in bars even if we knew they weren't going to stay small.

The pool room attached to the cathouse let me get in twenty a game eight or nine ball every night, fifty a game almost every week, a hundred a game a few times a year, maybe more often.

We knew damned good and well we were not going to stay at three or five a game but it was a good way to feel out things and see what you were getting into. Danny and Johnny both suggested the starting bet and neither offered to raise it. Personal ethics, I didn't raise the bet myself but would play for most anything. A road player from California came to Greenway in Baton Rouge. I went looking with $3500 in my pocket, all of the ready cash I had. About $3700 to be picky but the other two or three hundred was spending money. I was looking for $500 a game action which gave me a bodacious plenty seven barrels. I would have played for a thousand a game but three barrels was kinda thin playing by the game. You could go bust without getting a shot. This was pretty fair betting stakes at the time, that $3500 would buy a pretty nice medium sized new car.

Last I was in bars and pool halls ten years or so ago they were still betting mostly for a few dollars.

Hu

AtLarge said:

Yes, conventional wisdom is that the player who pushes out is at a disadvantage, because it is the other player who then has the choice on whether to shoot. I've looked at the stats on this several times, mostly years ago, and I have found no real confirmation of the belief that, overall, the pusher is at a disadvantage. Of course, some players are better at it than others.

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As I suspected, the better players are at an advantage in push out situations. You underline it here.