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Yapp’s Controversial Tournament-Winning Shot in the 8-Ball World Championship … Was it a Foul?

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If it's too close to call then it's too close to call. There is really no need for a referee, or a group of observers, to use the "physics" to influence said referee's decision based on observation of which ball was contacted first. "We know best" or "I just know" isn't objective.

I have the utmost respect for those here who back up what they say with real data, real physics, real interpretations - probably more respect than they realise, at least two of them are heroes and bordering on legends with their analysis of the game of pool. There are shots that lowly me "can" call when I referee but I don't. I guess we will never know how well the referee in question "could have" called Yapp's "foul" but they didn't. In real time it's close, really really close - they can't, or a least shouldn't, call it. Video replay as an aid to the referee of course changes everything. Same in all sports. But it wasn't used (I hope it will be eventually in all pro tournaments because the technology is becoming really cheap and really available).

By all means, analyse the shot. But let the referees do their job.
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Pace of Play

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dont play if the t.d. doesn't have the balls to keep things moving doing whatever it takes.

if enough players stop playing or complain and stop they will fix it. a broken wheel never gets fixed if it isnt turning.

all it takes is to tell all players that they need to get out of the chair and shoot. if they stall at all they will be punished with loss of turn or match.
and all slow players wont be invited back. that right there solves most of the problems.
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Points, Inlays, Veneers, Ringwork, and other embellishments

fastone371
I think it has more to do with the wood than the inlays, points or rings. I have merry widow Viking from the 80's that hits nice as do my D series McDermotts but my best hitting cue is an old Titlist. I cant say its a great hitting cue because that is far too subjective, if people all felt the same about feedback there would never be a soft tip sold. Probably not a carbon shaft either, unless everyone uses only soft tips on them.
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⭐️ ⭐️ Cues for sale or trade ⭐️ ⭐️

KenneyTran
⭐️ ⭐️ Cues for sale or trade ⭐️ ⭐️
Two sw and one Craig Petersen with case


#-306-08 Macassar ebony < Bem
blue/ white/ green—19.8 oz; 2 shafts 13 mm

#-357-93 Macassar < Bem
blue/ white—19.5 oz; 2 shafts 13 mm

Looking for JMW or Tascarella fancy.
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Yapp’s Controversial Tournament-Winning Shot in the 8-Ball World Championship … Was it a Foul?

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refs make mistakes. that is part of the game. it happens in all sports and can work for you or against you.

many shots come up that are too close to call. so the tie goes to the runner here and the shooter gets his point.
it works both ways. only when it goes against you do you complain.

if the opponent doesnt bother to go up and watch or ask the ref to watch closely that is on him. if he isnt allowed, then that is a fault in the rules.
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Physics of a double kiss

GideonF
For those on Facebook, here is an interesting snooker video on why there is always a double kiss when the balls are lined up straight in.

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19K views · 184 reactions | The 2026 World Snooker Championship in full swing. But have you ever wondered why some shots always end the same way? In this video, Jimmy White plays a simple shot that always leads to a double kiss when the balls line u

The 2026 World Snooker Championship in full swing. But have you ever wondered why some shots always end the same way? In this video, Jimmy White plays a simple shot that always leads to a double...
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Short Rack 8 Ball

td873
There's already short rack 8-ball for tournament play using 9-balls [4 solids, 4 stripes]. There's even a Saratoga version of this. Your option adds one more ball, so kinda slows down "short rack" that already exists. But, does add a little more variety.

[edit: here's a 2012 thread on it: https://forums.azbilliards.com/threads/short-rack-8-ball.300077/ featuring the late, great, Mark Griffin]

-td
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Frank "The Barber" Almanza

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A random tidbit that I remember hearing at the time based on the person moving the table. I can't 100% confirm it, but recall it being accurate. If you remember the Green Bay Packers Linebacker Clay Matthews, he had a short stint with the Los Angeles Rams. He bought a house in Calabasas, then sold it when he retired, that is where Frank's pool table ended up. I saw Frank's table a few times and he kept it pristine, always lamenting that he eventually sold it. Scroll down to the "The Billiards Room" picture in the article and you can see the table.

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Former NFL Player Clay Matthews Sells California Estate for $20 Million

The French Provincial-style house was originally listed at $29.9 million in 2021
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