Why Pool Leagues Should Embrace “ALL BALL FOULS”

I don’t do ‘leagues’, but playing ‘all fouls’ most of my life, I’ve never called an opponent for a hair, shirt, etc. chickenshit foul.
I’ve warned, and an honorable player would then pay attention and correct.
While I am technically the ref when my opponent is shooting, I generally prefer the insight into his character over any enforcement advantage. In a close money game, if he touches a ball without realizing it but then gives me an argument, I would consider losing as ‘money well spent’.

Well stated.

Why Pool Leagues Should Embrace “ALL BALL FOULS”

In the last 20 years in the local bars, I've had it happen or done to me many times. Shooters have to share with the pedestrian traffic.

... in league play, or just when playing under drunken "bar rules?"

Whenever people in my league think a drunken slob might get too close during a shot, they let the drunken slob get out of the way first, or they politely ask them to move aside briefly.

Why Pool Leagues Should Embrace “ALL BALL FOULS”

Not buying any of this. Allowance of playing with "cue ball fouls only" rule is as deeply embedded in the annals of amateur pool as disallowance of nearly all the "do nots" that you cite. Allowing any of the disallowed things you cite wouldn't make the game more fun, more entertaining, or more rewarding for the amateur.

Any knowledgeable player who has played in leagues before knows that many (if not most) players (and many refs at the national tournaments) are clueless concerning how to accurately detect double hits and wrong-ball-first fouls. And bad or disagreeable calls in these situations, which come up often, certainly result in arguments, bad feelings, and less fun.

Would having fewer fouls in US amateur league play make the game more enjoyable for the bulk of the American league players? The list of possible fouls is currently very long. And the long description of all the special cases for "CB Fouls Only" is a bit ridiculous.

Maybe I should do a video on why the APA should embrace "No Ball Fouls." Just play and have fun. Don't worry about all the "silly" fouls called in other leagues like:
- CB touches with or without ball in hand
- double hits
- no rail contact after the hit with and without rail-frozen balls
- wrong-ball-first for close, near-split-hit shots
- push shots
- intentional miscues
- scoop jump shots
- cue lift shots (already allowed in the APA)
- driving balls off the table
- not having a foot on the floor during a hit
- not marking the pocket for the 8 (currently penalized in the APA)
- etc.!
What do you and others think?

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I don't know if it is a language barrier thing or a typing/proof reading issue. Your post is difficult to read and causing confusion. People are trying to answer the question as best as they can decipher what you are typing.

Did he send it to you, and you gave it to someone to refinish or was it sent directly to the person refinishing it?

Your post does makes it sound like someone else refinished the cue for some other guy. If you are involved, you are a middleman. Whomever opened the package and removed the contents is the one responsible for verifying and disputing the claim. This is where proper documentation would have helped.

That said and based on the limited info presented, the discrepancy appears to be in the packaging. Is the pictures of the packaging his actual packaging? If so how is he disputing the weight difference in what you are showing and what he says the packaging weighed?
I thought the packaging pics we just representation of how weights were derived?

I wonder if it shipper would defend Tran's position based on weight of package at first post office.

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Why Pool Leagues Should Embrace “ALL BALL FOULS”

I don’t do ‘leagues’, but playing ‘all fouls’ most of my life, I’ve never called an opponent for a hair, shirt, etc. chickenshit foul.
I’ve warned, and an honorable player would then pay attention and correct.
While I am technically the ref when my opponent is shooting, I generally prefer the insight into his character over any enforcement advantage. In a close money game, if he touches a ball without realizing it but then gives me an argument, I would consider losing as ‘money well spent’.

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