iusedtoberich said:

Man, I feel like a league player now. All my life I've heard about sandbagging for Vegas trips. I never paid it any attention, because I was never in that world. I always hated leagues with a passion. Sit around all night watching bangers block the pockets in 8 ball and tap tap tap for an hour each game. No thanks.

Now I guess I've experienced the sandbagging side of it first hand. Really good players having low ratings, then going to Vegas and cashing in big events.

It all makes sense.

Still, I'd rather stab my eyes out than be in a league again, even if the payday was a nice new car.

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Sadly, that is the issue with capped tournaments, as well as leagues. If there is a rating system, someone will find a way to game it. It is very disheartening for the semi-serious amateur that wants to compete in these if you are an honest person.

Am I the only one with WNT TV subscription who did not receive the email?

Granted it's not pool related but fishing tournaments has the same thing depending on the brand of the pickup used to tow the boat , the boat manufacturer and in some cases the rod and reel used .

Man, I feel like a league player now. All my life I've heard about sandbagging for Vegas trips. I never paid it any attention, because I was never in that world. I always hated leagues with a passion. Sit around all night watching bangers block the pockets in 8 ball and tap tap tap for an hour each game. No thanks.

Now I guess I've experienced the sandbagging side of it first hand. Really good players having low ratings, then going to Vegas and cashing in big events.

It all makes sense.

Still, I'd rather stab my eyes out than be in a league again, even if the payday was a nice new car.

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Interesting, the winner, Joshua Manual, CA, was a 548 in the tournament.




Now he is a 560, 904 robustness. I've never heard of anyone moving up 12 points that already had 800ish robustness from a single event.



Furthermore, one day after the tournament, he turned off his public matches. It was a requirement of the tournament for them to be on. I'd bet he turned them off right after winning to avoid anyone scrutinizing his prior matches.



I had scrolled through some of his matches when they were public during the tournament, and it was a ton of 0-1 and 1-0 league matches.

Also interestingly, most people point to Solatto as the sandbaggers haven. Those matches are always public, can't be turned off under any circumstance. This player has not played a single Solatto match.

It would be interesting for @mikepage to do a deep dive into this tournament. It's the perfect recipe for sandbagging. High entry, 30k to the winner, encouraging professional sandbagging for the sole purpose of entering this event with a big edge.

Joshua closed out the tournament with a 2 pack to win first place (according to the write up by the TD, I didn't see it). As a 548!!! Me as a 570 I have played about a dozen 10 ball matches on stream with my local friends over the past year getting ready for this tournament. I don't think I've run 5 TOTAL break and runs of 10 ball on the barbox in that entire time.

Duane Remick said:

Great shop, for sure.
I never met Pete Jr,
But have been very fortunate to speak with Pete Sr on the phone on a few occassions,
The man is PURE CLASS.

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If you’re available, he should be there at the expo this April.

dendweller said:

I found the stream where he was holding the cash and talked with someone that was there. I stand corrected.

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Was just giving you a hard time(fun) hell any little distraction even if you were watching and you'd miss it