Thorpe blasts ‘one of the dumbest rules’ after becoming ineligible for USA Mosconi Cup team

People like Woodward and Thorpe could easily make up their costs and then same by staying an extra day or two and giving exhibitions and lessons. I'm sure there are people in the UK who would love to take a banks lesson from Billy Thorpe.
Seems like that's what Mickey Krause is doing whilst in the U.S.A for tournaments.

Thoughts on players who seemingly take Zero practice strokes, before shooting / final follow through?

Brings back memories of watching George Rippe do his thing. Sometimes he'd get 6 rails on that little dance in the corner. Great players in that room. Dick Reid, Carlos Hallon, Paul Melinchuk, Larry Johnson and others.
Used to think we could put together a 5 man team that could beat any room in the country. They're all gone now other than Carlos.
Great times though.
I knew them all, played them all!

Other than Shorty & Carlos, I played Bob 'Ingy' Ingersol, Charlie D, Paul & John M, Dick R and George at Olympic 'the Mines' Billiards' in Boston!

George, Carlos and I were/are good friends, haven't spoken to Carlos in a few months!

Carlos being the Best player of those listed!

Whenever George an I would see each other, we naturally would set up difficult 3c Trick shots to shoot!

He'd alaways say to me, "How do you get so much action on your cue ball, and not hit it so hard"?

George had a 'Power stroke', I have/had a 'Finesse stroke'!

Always a Super Nice guy!

Thorpe blasts ‘one of the dumbest rules’ after becoming ineligible for USA Mosconi Cup team

there are a small handful that make a decent living. really a poor one for being at the top of a sport.

and all the rest if lucky and good, make about what a cop in a city makes or a bus driver with overtime.

and those lower just support those on top and the venues. till they realize what their future is.
Have you seen the salaries of some city cops lately? Unless you're in Mayberry, it's easy to make six figures as a cop.

Thorpe blasts ‘one of the dumbest rules’ after becoming ineligible for USA Mosconi Cup team

Not a Billy Thorpe fan....but the silver lining for Billy is the realization he can't make a living long term playing pool.
Props to him with his new excavation business. American professional pool is a fucking mess. Other than Shane and Fedor, and a few of the good entrepreneurs (example-Oscar ) There just isn't enough pie to cut up. The foreign talent dwarfs the Americans, other than the two above mentioned. So the bigger purses are pretty much unreachable. Its great seeing the young talent emerge in the states....but their parents should start steering these kids to the "Landon Shuffett route "
I started a thread on this line of thinking a while ago. Some of these kids are doomed and they don't even know it!

WHEN THE POOL GODS GO AGAINST YOU

take the straight shooter stuff back. missing too many easy banks and not getting the right position.

taking forever to find the obvious shot. and like at 1.38 and some, he breaks open the stack with ball in hand. so deluna can run out if he leaves a bank. while only needing 2. that was a rookie mistake/
I can't believe you really think these guys aren't high-level thinkers who can't shoot straight. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Thoughts on players who seemingly take Zero practice strokes, before shooting / final follow through?

Exactly right. Lot of talk on here about what pros do. I'll tell you what they do. It's very simple.

They do whatever is necessary in any given situation to give themselves the biggest margin of error possible. Doing that allows them to be successful to the highest percentage possible.

Bridge or stroke length, stroke speed, amounts and types of english, position routes and many other things are just tools they use very skillfully to give themselves the best possible chance of success.

Of course most will have a default bridge length on a normal shot and though it varies player to player the majority bridge in the 10-12" range.
Watch 20 high level pros shoot in an hour long video and you'll see that with most, unless they have to stretch or need a lot of power they're bridge is nowhere near the natural pivot point of their shaft.

Don't have to believe me, just watch some vids.

Better still, for those who go to big tournaments, ask a few pros how much attention they pay to pivot points. The answer will be...not much.
You are probably correct that pros don't put conscious thought into pivoting.

It has been my observation that when using english, they are very consistent in having the same location on the shaft crossing the shot line, regardless of what the front and back hands are doing. My guess is that that location on the shaft is the pivot point.

Watch some videos with overhead views. The intersection of the shaft and shot lines is remarkably consistent regardless of where the bridge is, and for LD shaft users (pretty much everyone now) is usually at about 14-16".

Thoughts on players who seemingly take Zero practice strokes, before shooting / final follow through?

Thanks for sharing this post. This puts it in perspective for me, but I have a question. For a person with 8-10 inch bridge, would you suggest a regular shaft or a LD?
That is a good question, and one that I don't have the answer to.

Are LD shafts more forgiving if there is error in choosing the point you pivot the cue around? I don't know, I'm waiting for someone to do the experiments on this.

In the meantime I will stick with a maple shaft that has a 12" pivot point. At least with it, the pivot point is in the visual field so I can see where I am pivoting.

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