skogstokig said:

the other kid seems more likely to get there

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Agreed. Januarta has progressed much more than Manas in 2026 and will probably reach Day 6 (semifinalist) at a Matchroom major by end of 2027.

Like others, though, I enjoy watching Manas.

xntriq said:

WANTED UPDATE: Burt Clay Double Stripe Balls gear pattern #3, #14, #15 needed to complete my set. See above for a picture of my set for comparison purposes. Looking for similar coloration and quality.

AVAILABLE FOR POSSIBLE TRADE: Burt Clay Double Stripe Balls gear pattern, #4, #5, #7 and #13.

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Might try Bob Jewett. May be able to help you.

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Lowell said:

Come on dude, this is widely regarded as arguably the greatest 9 ball performance of all time. And he did it in the Matchroom era with 4 inch pockets and a breakbox.

He didn't do it because of using a wood shaft, he did it because shaft type and skill have no real correlation.

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yet he lost round two to unknown player with the same table, same shaft....

playing great in pool depends on pool gods, and rolls....what really matters is consistency which is what I am arguing here, if things lay good for you you'd run a set with a broom-stick.

My argument is that using CF will improve your consistency in the game overall and in general, doesnt matter one set or one rack.

still looking guys thank you

uk_9_ball_convert said:

we all have different preferences. I like watching 9 ball with the current size of pockets. I tried watching Chinese 8 ball, found it boring as hell. I don't mind a safety battle where players are trying to put their opponent in trouble. But I saw a "safety battle" where they weren't actually playing safeties, they were trying to tempt each other into going for the finish and neither player wanted to take the bait. Maybe I got unlucky with the first Chinese 8 ball match I watched, but it seems to me they have taken the small pockets thing too far.

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if so, i also get unlucky most of the times i try to watch it. but the top-top dogs run out though, possibly over 50%. it's 8-ball after all.

straightline said:

You argue that Pros play to perfection infallibly? In a game like 9 ball, with enough space for quarter table landing triangles, why do players have to fudge any shot? To play more general position? Chinese pool proves you can calibrate to tougher specs. Jocks take that proof and argue aesthetics like "boring" no end. Just saying, you can't argue technical specs and tolerances. Obviously you don't take the design into impossible. EEk. I'm saying humans can and should take their abilities to < if it fits, I can make it. >

Before somebody brings up 'smarts', no, you obviously don't go for anything and everything that comes up. Headroom and evolution. It's inevitable.

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we all have different preferences. I like watching 9 ball with the current size of pockets. I tried watching Chinese 8 ball, found it boring as hell. I don't mind a safety battle where players are trying to put their opponent in trouble. But I saw a "safety battle" where they weren't actually playing safeties, they were trying to tempt each other into going for the finish and neither player wanted to take the bait. Maybe I got unlucky with the first Chinese 8 ball match I watched, but it seems to me they have taken the small pockets thing too far.

SSDiver2112 said:

I did a few at first like that too. My current shaft was done that way. 5/16 (0.312) will work because the threads will still cinch it down tight. Boring it to 0.308 is more accurate and I also use a tight fit tap. The shaft feels less sloppy while screwing it on. Both work but .308 is better because it is more accurate to the pin.

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Is that .308 to the regular pin or the flat.

iusedtoberich said:

I can't recommend this table anymore. The rails are scratching easily. I'm quite upset about it. BW dogged the shit out of the rail material. I heard hearsay they are working on improving it, but who knows.

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Even if Brunswick improves the rails what about the people that already spent $12K on an effed up table? I don't understand how stuff like that gets thru testing and evaluation. Do they not assemble a new design and test it out for an appropriate amount of time??

I have an old Predator Z shaft that fits my Schon and my Titlist, even though both are metal joints the feel, feedback, and sound is completely different with that Z shaft on different butts.

WANTED UPDATE: Burt Clay Double Stripe Balls gear pattern #3, #14, #15 needed to complete my set. See above for a picture of my set for comparison purposes. Looking for similar coloration and quality.

AVAILABLE FOR POSSIBLE TRADE: Burt Clay Double Stripe Balls gear pattern, #4, #5, #7 and #13.

skogstokig said:

after the first rack they played that match well

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Europeans won't give them a 2nd chance like Manas and Albert.

Poolmanis said:

Just installed one.
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Body is full metal. Pockets are redesigned. Overall a lot of improvements. Rail rubbers are still same Masters rubbers. There was one bad mistake they have made... That made me work a lot. Rail cloth strip was too wide. There was no room to strip get on groove with cloth.
Rail clothing is also very hard to get some because you need also back of pockets flush so frame get properly aligned. You better get very good professional mechanic to install table.
Our floor is getting new carpet. So it is not done yet..

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Nice! Set up to play some classic One Ball!

Previously discussed a few times

Matsuyama's was so nice - even the rumble of the train station as the trains pull in. Do you have any connection with them still? I'm hoping to find some players from ~15 years ago, I wrote this (via translation)

https://ameblo.jp/tailuge/entry-12981511558.html

Luke

gregcantrall said:

I was familiar with a court case in Washington state, between 2 two man teams from Seattle/Tacoma and Portland. At the conclusion of the match they refused to pay. Claimed a gambling debt was not enforce able. Harry Platis took them to court and prevailed on......"It's Not gambling. It's a contest of skill." The judge agreed and they paid up.
Laws and the enforcement of varying wildly.
I flashback to Cole's confessed to asking, "how about I give you your money back and leave?".........."Okay how about all of my money too?"
Okay was the reply. Ya gotta know when to hold 'em. And when to walk away. Hopefully not Run!!!

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Before writing that I made sure to do a little research cuz I wanted to be sure. Even though I was involved in the incident that I mentioned as a player I wanted to see what current laws were.

Florida actually specifically mentioned even games of skill it's gambling. It's got the penny anti law where home card games can get busted if the pots exceed a certain amount.

The real offense is by the person putting on the tournament. If they advertise the tournament advertise prize funds charge admission even selling refreshments and stuff during the play. Pretty much any way shape or form that they profit by it it can be defined as operating an illegal gambling enterprise if the players entry fees make up the price fund.

In most counties you would actually have to apply for a separate license to put on an event like a pool tournament. I guess similar to when a carnival comes to town or a circus, or rodeo. Nobody ever gets charged with any of this stuff usually, but the laws are still floating around on the books when you look.

GideonF said:

I’m hoping that playing with the ROW and feeling like they have less pressure will help Fedor and Shane shoot with confidence in the MC

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after the first rack they played that match well