Should women be allowed to compete in US Open 9 Ball Championship?

Should women be allowed to compete in US Open 9 Ball?

  • Yes, Open means open. Anyone should be able to play.

    Votes: 253 74.9%

  • No, US Open 9 Ball should be men only.

    Votes: 82 24.3%

  • What is US Open 9 Ball?

    Votes: 3 0.9%
  • Total voters
    338
  • Poll closed .
Tom In Cincy said:
I agree.. you are correct... BUT, pool compared to golf is NOT fair to GOLF. Golf is more prestigious and has MILLIONS more fans and probably over a Billion dollars a year industry...
Comparing Pool to Golf is so unfair on so many different levels to GOLF. The same goes for Tennis.

Typically there is more money in ONE of Golfs or Tennis' events than the entire last 10 years of POOL prize money...
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so why does that mean that the US Open 9-Ball Championship should be country of origin or residence specific? All the "U.S." in US Open Championship means is that it's our national championship and contested here, not that it's only open to Americans.
 
everybody can be happy !

there is a womens us open.

there is a mens us open.

so start an event that states '' us open for women and men ''

case closed !!!


and then the same thing should happen in 10-ball also,

just incase some of you wonder about that.

imho 6 us open titles a year would be great for the sport. savy ?:cool:
 
Tom In Cincy said:
I think Mark Griffin (BCAPL, USAPL and CSI) hold the legal rights to the "USA 8,9,10, 1pkt and 14.1" Championships. And they are not OPEN. You must be a USA citizen and win a qualifier to get your spot in one of these Championships.
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HOLD ON Tom, Serious correction!

NCS series is NOT Open! Never claimed to be! It's a National Championship Series. Never claimed to be US Open anything. And yes, you're right, one has to qualify by competing in authorized tournaments to win a spot, but NCS as expended it's qualification to "Legal" US residents.

Jose Parika is current NCS 10 Ball Champion and Santos Sambajon, Jr. is current NCS 9 Ball Champion.

Here is the press release on behalf:

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CueSports International

National Championship Series (NCS) Player Eligibility Expanded

CueSports International (CSI) would like to announce the following National Championship Series (NCS) player eligibility change which will take effect immediately: the NCS is open to all U.S Citizens and to U.S Permanent Resident Aliens who have resided full time in the U.S for a minimum of 12 consecutive months prior to winning a qualifying spot at an NCS national event.

The previous policy, which required players be eligible to hold a U.S passport, was with the goal of meeting eligibility to represent the U.S in a WPA World Championship. However, after discussion with representatives of the WPA, the NCS is able to expand its previous policy to include long term U.S residents who do not however have U.S citizenship.

Players who win a spot(s) to any NCS national event will receive a welcome packet which includes important information pertaining to the NCS national event for which they qualified. The NCS is a series of five U.S national championships in the follow five cue disciplines: 8-Ball, 9-Ball, 10-Ball, 14.1 Continuous and One Pocket.

The NCS 14.1 Continuous National Championship is scheduled July 31-August 2, 2009 at Comet Billiards in Parsippany, NJ. The top two finishers at the 14.1 NCS national event will represent the U.S to the 2009 World 14.1 Championship scheduled August 24-29 in East Brunswick, NJ and will be streamed online by Accu-Stats.

The NCS 9-Ball and 10-Ball National Championships will be held together over a 5 day event at the historical and award winning Golden Nugget in Las Vegas, NV September 3-7, 2009. TAR will be streaming both events. Players must participate and win a spot in an NCS qualifier to be able to play in an NCS national event.

The NCS is sponsored by Diamond Billiard Products, OB Cues, DELTA-13 Rack and Aramith. For a complete listing of qualifiers please visit the NCS calendar at www.playcsipool.com, call the CSI office at 702-719-7665 or email holly@playcsipool.com.

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Mark Griffin/ CSI also produces US Open Bar Table Championships and it is "Open" To any sex and any citizen.

Darren Appleton of UK is current US Bar Table Champion for 10 Ball.

**** Food for thought*****

In May 2010, CSI is producing US Open 10 Ball Championship in Vegas during BCAPL Nationals. This event is OPEN to all sex and nationals.

S.
 
Well, I guess most people are not getting about WPBA US Open 9 Ball is not open to any women...

Then again US Open 9 Ball is only open to men...

Why not have US Open 9 Ball - men's div and US Open 9 Ball women's div side by side?

I think long time ago it was like that...

** Does anyone know how to modify the polls so I may have that as 3rd option?

S.
 
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Johnnyt said:
For guys that said they shouldn't be allowed to play because they have their own Open. If the women closed their Open down then more than 50% of the ones on here that voted no because of that would allow them to play? I bet not. It's mostly "I don't want to get beat by a women thing". If the women play soooo bad then there should be nothing to worry about as they wouldn't be cashing like the other 100 men that have no chance. As far as the points go, I hope some day that a women or two can get enough points to play on the Mosconi Cup :eek:. Johnnyt
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hi jt.

i don't why they don't have a womens division in the mosconi cup.

or do they have something similar. if they don't and they start one what

would it be called . '' the ___________ cup ''

fill in the blank !

maybe it shouldn't be cup, hehe.
 
When I can be a Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader.... Then they can play in the US Open....Women cant hang with the big boys!















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and yes, thats a joke
 
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My answer above was just a joke to get someones feathers ruffled.......did it work:grin:
 
Tom In Cincy said:
I never said the NCS is OPEN.. I did not include the inclusion of long time residents (i.e. Parica and Sonny Sambajon Jr.) that is all.

Please re-read my post.
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Tom,

When I read your post (quote)"I think Mark Griffin (BCAPL, USAPL and CSI) hold the legal rights to the "USA 8,9,10, 1pkt and 14.1" Championships. And they are not OPEN. You must be a USA citizen and win a qualifier to get your spot in one of these Championships." (end quote) I thought you were referring to the NCS. What USA Championship that CSI owns that is not OPEN?

US Bar Table Championship is...
US 10 Ball Championship is...

S.
 
I did mean to include NCS in my original post and that was what I was referring to, Sorry about that... ( I do get to claim senior moments, right?)



sunnyday said:
Tom,

When I read your post (quote)"I think Mark Griffin (BCAPL, USAPL and CSI) hold the legal rights to the "USA 8,9,10, 1pkt and 14.1" Championships. And they are not OPEN. You must be a USA citizen and win a qualifier to get your spot in one of these Championships." (end quote) I thought you were referring to the NCS. What USA Championship that CSI owns that is not OPEN?

US Bar Table Championship is...
US 10 Ball Championship is...

S.
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sunnyday said:
Hmm, I don't get it... are you saying you can't hang with "Pretty Girls?" LOL

S.
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I will play you anytime Sweet Thang :grin:

And dont be hating me for my hair....I know its a major turnon for you pool chicks......its ok to not admit it on here....but me and you KNOW the truth! :kiss:
 
Yes they should and Open SHOULD mean open to any player, regardless of the said player's gender.

IMHO, if a player has got the bankroll to pay their entrance fee and they're willing to compete, then that's good enough for me :thumbup:

Willie
 
Tom In Cincy said:
I did mean to include NCS in my original post and that was what I was referring to, Sorry about that... ( I do get to claim senior moments, right?)
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LOL, I blame everything to ADHD... everyone should have an escape goat:grin-square:

You're always cool in my book, TOM.

S.
 
Yes it definitally shoud be

Of course it should be open to women otherwise is not an open. Is shame not see Players like Alison and Jasmin face the best on the mens side.

Still the bigger problem is the WPBAs lack of true opens they limit the number of female players which is already small to begin with. This strategy limits the potential field of female players in this country. Pool talent takes years to acquire and many players benefit from opens getting better and better each year. The WBPA has a short sighted strategy that severely limits the new players. To have to pre qualify for an open is not by definition an open. A open should be open to all comers.

Still in a perfect world they should not be separate billiards associational for men and women. We should all just play whoever is left standing oh well.

The women players would benefit from playing a bigger field of players rather than the same players over and over. Men would benefit from the attention women players garner naturally. More attention equals more money in the long run. Is no secret that the average person would rather see women play over men so this should be capitalized to bring the prize money up for everyone. Tennis is a strong example of this, because of its high ratings and it attracts more money to the sport. More coverage more publicity more visibility equals more money for everyone involved. Keep in mind most of this money comes from outside of tennis by people that don't even play tennis. This is what pool needs. Keep in mind this why in England snooker is paid so well, most of the money comes from non pool related sources.

Last point as a serious player, I want to play the best players whether it's Jasmin or Mika. It's a shame that I cant in most cases simply for irrational reasons within the sport.:smile:

Hugs
Mary Avina
 
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I'm always of a split mind on these types of topics....

On one hand, part of me says that if they meet whatever requirements and pay the entry, anyone should be allowed to play....

On the other hand, I don't like the idea that the women have their own tour/events specifically for them, yet want open access to other events.....it sort of says "I want to be treated like a lady, but when I change my mind, I want to be treated like everyone else".....it seems to be a bit hypocritical, but what do I know....

This was a big issue in golf with Michelle Wie.....she was getting sponsors exemptions on the PGA tour, failing miserably, and taking a spot from someone else that normally would have had that opportunity.....John Daly won the PGA and burst into the spotlight as an alternate for that tournament.....just sayin....
 
Yes, let the WPBA ?itch about it if one of their female stars play, that should between them and the player. Barry should not keep the women out, women can and do play well and would at least bring some more exposure to our much ignored sport.

Maybe I should have a 50k added tournament and keep out anyone over 40 or not American Indian or any other group I want to avoid to make sure they are not winning my added cash.

Uhhhh now I all I need is a quick spare 50k :grin::grin::grin:
 
Not the US Open 9-ball

Maybe not the US Open 9-ball, but I would be all for other non-gender specific 9-ball tournaments as a new thing. The US Open has its rules and its history, so I think it's a moot point to even bring it up.

Fred
 
3andstop said:
Yeah but .... What's the "W" stand for in WPBA? It's the WPBA tour.

Where's the "M" in US Open?
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Where's the "M" tour? Read Pool Wars by Jay Helfert and you'll know the history of the men's tours that they had. Johnnyt
 
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