Ripped off by Realkingcobra anyone?

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What's that old adage about 999 good deals and 1 bad one and it's the only one you hear about. :groucho:

I've heard about the good deals. If the person doesn't come on here and sing his praises, he'll come on here and do it himself. I'm well aware that he's good at what he does.

Because of this "1 bad one" and his post to Diamond Billiards, I'm also well aware of what I'll have to deal with in the unfortunate circumstance that something goes wrong. A lot of people want to continue using him and thats their prerogative. His reaction to a problem is what is telling to me and for those that will still use him, I would say its at your own risk. If someone else has a bad experience with him like this at least they can't say they weren't warned. I hope those that use him in the future are luckier than Doc.
 
Thank you for the story it was very entertaining. There doesn't seem to be a good parallel here.

I believe that you should have called your steer man after Keith told you he already knew the spot and had played there. Then the steer man would know he needed to find you spots you hadn't been to. However, he still wasn't due any money even though he thought he was because the spot was already known to Keith.

Pete should know that a steer man can't send someone to a place where the player they are sending is already known UNLESS he can provide perfect information to the player on who to match up with and how to match up and for how much.

You were right. You didn't owe any jelly to the steer guy for a known spot.

Now, if someone went to the spot and picked up 3k that the owner owed Mr. McCready and the courier kept the money for 6 months......

And after 6 months when you demand your money they laugh it off, making jokes, and acting like he will do it if and when he feels like it.



Scumbag much? Yes, this guy is. Any monkey can move a table. Only some can do it perfect, but there are many. This guy acts like he is a ****ing Mona Lisa of the table mechanics.. when his customer service is 1/10 (even people standing up for his "Skills" are saying he is bad at customer service. So if his customers even have negative things to say about him he should be outted.
 
RKC: Never meet you, but feel the need to speak up here but first must address all the johnny come latelys.....

Grow up, take a pill. ONE bad transaction, ONE out of god know hows many, and You all want to say DONE, thats it! Wow the internet and its great no face policy sure makes for steadfast convictions on some.

Let me ask you all this, Do you have a faviorite restaurant that you goto a LOT, I mean they make the best Chicken Fried Steak anywhere! Everytime no problems! But one day the cook is in a shitty mood and burns the hashbrowns and forgets to season the gravy.. Ewww. So do you say NEVER again! period? I bet you dont. It happens. You go back and try again.
Man I have waited longer then that on a refund from Best Buy on a Plasma! Guess what? Still will shop there. Shit happens!

You all act like he raped a puppy and kicked a kid. The internet and forums are great, but I guess since there are a few Idiots out there should shut it down......

Now, RKC, keep being you and do what you do man, hope to have to call on you sometime in the future...

Dennis

You would seem to be the poster child of the Customer that every company would want to have all of their customers act like, a customer they can treat any way they want and they still keep coming back.

Let's see... the place makes great chicken fried steaks, you go there all the time, one day the cook burns the hashbrowns and you say politely, "Can I get some new hashbrowns, these are kind of burnt" The cook tells you, "Those aren't burnt, and you know what... You can take your business elsewhere.. I don't need your stinking business, I got plenty of business.... I don't need your lame a$$"

In regards to your Best Buy analogy... So you buy a big screen for $3000 but they don't have it in stock. They tell you they will deliver it to you in a week. Months pass, you never see the TV, you send emails to them and they keep telling you they should have it to you by next week. Months and more months go by, you still have no TV. Your out $3000 for over a year, you've been lied to over and over about it coming next week, and that doesn't bother you?

But you'll still shop there, right? Sh1t happens, right?

When I get screwed over by a business and I call them on it, I tell them I won't be giving them any more of my business. When they laugh and say "So what, who cares... I don't need your business" .. I laugh back.

I tell them that they are not just losing my business, I will be sure to tell every one of my friends and co-workers and family, about what they did, they will lose that business too. I tell all those people to tell their friends/family/co-workers about the business too. I be sure to tell any appropriate forum of the bad dealings too. I try to reach as many people as I can, to alert them of my bad dealings with that business.

After all.. they dont' care..... I'm just "one person":grin:
 
I"m sorry I usually stay out of these things...

JAM, this is exactly what lights my fire, because I already stated there was wrongs on both sides, mine and DR's...BUT that I would take care of it, and told DR that BEFORE he posted here, never-the-less there are those here that like to flame shit....maybe just because it's me they're trying to flame....I don't know. But when someone starts telling me that maybe they SHOULDN"T hire me to work on their pool table because of something that has NOTHING to do with my skills as a mechanic...then that just down right pisses me off...to the point that they just burned the bridge with me....as they feel like they're taking money out of my pocket when they do that....and don't even know that I work on pool tables because I like the customer....and the customer needs my skills....it's NOT about the money....it's about the person I'm talking to....so if someone just treats me like a mechanic out of some listing like they're shopping around and looking for the best deal....I'm NOT the one to call:wink:

I'm not going into all the details for the AZB crowd here because it's really none of their business anyway....but as I've already said, the situation is being taken care of....already!

Two wrongs don't make a right, but I don't owe anyone here an apology or explanation, and for those that want to hear it...they can kiss my ass!

Glen

Glen, I've played on some of the tables you've done and they are some of the best playing tables around....BUT.....

This is reminiscent of the thread where you were getting all butt hurt that people were giving accolades to Ernesto Dominguez and not you.

Forget about other people's mistakes. Just say "I was wrong, I will make it right" and be done with it.

I don't care how good a worker you are, you keep acting like an ass and you will lose out because of it.

JAden
 
the varney of the table world

I've heard about the good deals. If the person doesn't come on here and sing his praises, he'll come on here and do it himself. I'm well aware that he's good at what he does.

Because of this "1 bad one" and his post to Diamond Billiards, I'm also well aware of what I'll have to deal with in the unfortunate circumstance that something goes wrong. A lot of people want to continue using him and thats their prerogative. His reaction to a problem is what is telling to me and for those that will still use him, I would say its at your own risk. If someone else has a bad experience with him like this at least they can't say they weren't warned. I hope those that use him in the future are luckier than Doc.

He does good work when he is in the mood to. He is the greatest in the world, if you doubt it just ask him. When things go right people are happy. When things go wrong, they go very very wrong. Sounds like the Kevin Varney of the table world. Also sounds like a guy that whatever happens is somebody else's fault. That is why he is the last guy I want on my property driving a truck and trailer or shifting heavy objects. He is just too huge of a liability risk. I like Diamonds and am likely to buy one once I get my new place built that the land is already purchased for. One thing I will specify is that RKC not deliver the table. Plenty of people can set up a table right, it really isn't rocket science. These days bad playing tables are far more the exception than the rule and I'm sure that RKC only sets up a tiny fraction of all tables.

Those that still choose to deal with RKC and get burned shouldn't come crying on the forum after this, after all you know he is a snake.

Hu
 
I don't think the johnny come latelys are judgin him by the transaction...

RKC: Never meet you, but feel the need to speak up here but first must address all the johnny come latelys.....

Grow up, take a pill. ONE bad transaction, ONE out of god know hows many, and You all want to say DONE, thats it! Wow the internet and its great no face policy sure makes for steadfast convictions on some.

Let me ask you all this, Do you have a faviorite restaurant that you goto a LOT, I mean they make the best Chicken Fried Steak anywhere! Everytime no problems! But one day the cook is in a shitty mood and burns the hashbrowns and forgets to season the gravy.. Ewww. So do you say NEVER again! period? I bet you dont. It happens. You go back and try again.

Man I have waited longer then that on a refund from Best Buy on a Plasma! Guess what? Still will shop there. Shit happens!

You all act like he raped a puppy and kicked a kid. The internet and forums are great, but I guess since there are a few Idiots out there should shut it down......

Now, RKC, keep being you and do what you do man, hope to have to call on you sometime in the future...

Dennis

I don't think the people that say they will never use him are basing it on this transaction....

They're basing it on how he has dealt with it....A man's character says a lot about him. You can be the best mechanic in the world but without character???

The thing I don't understand is how some people don't care about that. Maybe I'm just old fashioned, maybe I was raised with that southern style, I don't know, I'm not really old enough to truly be old fashioned I don't think, but how can someone want to reward someone else with business when they act like that?

Maybe it's just a sign of the times, we've gotten so used to being dicked by corporations and treated like ass that we don't care as long we get what we want.

I want to be clear that I'm not jumping on any bandwagon here. I'm only stating my opinions based on what Glen has said.

I will defend his ability. Glen is an excellent table mechanic, but come on, don't treat people like this. You take someone's money spend and then have the balls to come on and say you shouldn't have brought it to the forum? when I get your money together, it'll be yours? It already was his.

Ok so glen maybe shouldn't have agreed to take the money for him. but he did. IT was his money. So he makes a mistake. That's understandable. admit it and move on, quit playing the blame game. Get the man his money apologize for not having it and or the pool table to him sooner and be done with it.

Don't be so arrogant to thin kthat you cn treat people any way you want and there won't be any consequences for it.

Jaden
 
just me, just my thoughts...

i know glen, maybe not as well as some here do, but well enough...

knowing the person helps. however i don't know 'doctorb98', but reading a few of his threads, i think it is very safe to say b98 [he's no doctor] acts like the south end of a horse traveling north; on point:

thread: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=129842
b98: FS/T...Brunswick 1 piece cues.... - 02-02-2009, 12:10 PM
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Hello, looking to see if there is any interest out there for these Brunswick one piece cues...cash or trade offers considered...as of right now these are the only pictures available and I don't have measurements on them yet but more photos/specs to come....also I haven't figured out how to put the pictures directly in the post yet, if someone could it would be greatly appreciated

b98: 02-02-2009, 01:54 PM
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Hey guys...there has been a lot of interest in the veneered cues especially the ebony...many pm's but no cash or trade offers....haven't seen many of these sell recently inorder to get an idea of todays value so I won't give a firm price until I know what kind of offer market is out there...

poolhuster: 02-02-2009, 03:32 PM
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Second PM sent!!!!

Russ....


Brain71: 02-02-2009, 11:42 PM
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Interested in 1a and 2a. How about a price?


Jager Monster: 02-02-2009, 11:49 PM
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i pmed ours hours ago asking for price...no responce....still waiting....

Mike


Jager Monster [again]: 02-03-2009, 12:06 AM
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Follow up PM sent with offer....

Thanks,
Mike


b98: 02-03-2009, 11:42 AM
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keep the offers coming.....


RascalDoc: soooo - 02-13-2009, 06:05 PM
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whats left and what are you looking for? veneered cues

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Doc W.


b98: 02-13-2009, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RascalDoc
whats left and what are you looking for? veneered cues
all 6 veneered cues are still left...still taking cash and trade offers


1pRoscoe: 02-13-2009, 06:53 PM
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What you fail to realize is you've had many offers from some of the most reputable collectors on this site. By continuing to bump your "give me higher offers", you've in essence caused a lot of people to not even want to deal with you, as it's quite obvious you're not able to:

a) place an accurate value on your items
b) get that magical "damn the cost, I need them!!" response
c) both?

I think you either need to post a price and sell them or accept an offer that's been previously given... Just my opinion...




Coco: 02-13-2009, 07:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1pRoscoe
What you fail to realize is you've had many offers from some of the most reputable collectors on this site. By continuing to bump your "give me higher offers", you've in essence caused a lot of people to not even want to deal with you, as it's quite obvious you're not able to:

a) place an accurate value on your items
b) get that magical "damn the cost, I need them!!" response
c) both?

I think you either need to post a price and sell them or accept an offer that's been previously given... Just my opinion...

DITTO.


Brain71: 02-13-2009, 11:37 PM
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I Pm'd him and he still wouldn't quote me a price. Would love to have one of the vaneered cues. Would love to have a price as well.


Mr. Hoppe [note: the first to respond]:
02-14-2009, 04:26 AM
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I share the frustration aired by many others regarding this particular sale. As one of the most interested parties on this site, I've made offers with zero response from the seller, which is rude, and I refuse to participate in a silent auction. If you want to sell the items, just price them and get on with it. Pissing off all of your buyers is rarely a good strategy.

These cues are not ultra rare items. Brunswick made tens, if not hundreds of thousands of them. Heck, I just bought another oak Titlist on eBay for a lot less trouble...
Mr H



i only know Mr Hoppe from 1 or 2 pm's besides of course reading many of his posts. and the reason i am saying this is i want to express something: even with little knowledge of Mr Hoppe and never meeting face to face, i trust my instincts in judging folks. and to that end, if Mr Hoppe told me he was interested in seeing my most expensive cue, i would send it to him without any hesitation.

you may wonder why i say this so i will state: Mr Hoppe summed up b98 to a tee, inho. as stated at the outset of my diatribe, "... b98 [he's no doctor] acts like the south end of a horse traveling north."

for interested parties you can check out thread: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=106162


b98: FS/T Diamond smart table...pro pockets + deep shelf slate REDUCED - 07-18-2008, 02:20 AM
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If anyone is looking for a 7' smart table with the pro pockets and the deep shelf slate let me know......$3500including ..delivery/setup/recovering w/ Glen(realkingcobra)
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Last edited by doctorb98; 02-25-2009 at 12:54 AM.


Smoknum: 07-18-2008, 06:24 AM
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Should include location, will be the important thing for most.


Chuck


FAST_N_LOOSE: 07-18-2008, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Smoknum
Should include location, will be the important thing for most.


Chuck
PRICE IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT.

I'M LOOKING, BUT WITHOUT A PRICE AND A LOCATION, I CAN'T BE SURE IF I'M INTERESTED IN THIS ONE.


there is no need to go into all the details, but for those of us that are just plain numb-nuts, all i have to say is you are on your own cause you are beyond help.


DWBOD [an important post]:
07-20-2008, 08:21 AM
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I'll give you $3000 for it. This is a real offer!!

Doug


very, very telling...
b98: 07-20-2008, 08:47 AM
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Thanks Josh...I should just say $6000 OBO to make some of them happy...as u know, my thought with this table is that diamonds have their value but this setup might have more value to the right buyer...so I figure I'll let the buyer tell me what its worth


b98 [looking for newbies or even guests on AZB so giving his email addy {to make HIS PROFITS}]:
07-21-2008, 12:49 AM
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for those guests/new members...doctorb98@aol.com


FAST_N_LOOSE: 07-21-2008, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by doctorb98
bump...lets get this table sold
POST A PRICE...YOU'LL HAVE A MUCH BETTER CHANCE.

DWBOD: 07-21-2008, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by FAST_N_LOOSE
POST A PRICE...YOU'LL HAVE A MUCH BETTER CHANCE.
Exactly, you wanted an offer, I made an offer. Your responses are so vague and confusing I don't think anyone will ever buy this table. Why not just list what you want for it instead of playing this BS game.

Doug

AND IT GOES ON AND ON AND ON FOR ALMOST A YEAR! no doubt: b98 [ i will call him the proctologist at this point] wanted to make money on a table 'he bought' but didn't want and changed his mind, and now wanted to make money for himself. i say: go .... ........,, ... ...., . .... ....!!

are any of the numbnuts starting to see a pattern with b98? any of you???? is this too beyond your mental acumen to fathom????

honestly, and i really hate to say this because i think it is more than likely that many of you are really great folks. so please tell me...

you all just didn't bother to review b98's past. please tell me you rushed to judgment in error; please tell me 'you are sorry' [takes a man to do that i know]. if not, no great consequence in the realm of things: life will go on; i will always trust glen; i will have a great table; i will love my friend glen; and for "one" here on AZB if you can not consider ANYTHING beyond b98's post or your fn gang mentality in supposed righteousness i hope i never have the displeasure to meet you. you are nothing but fools who never knew how to do your homework before awarding yourselves the position of judges of men. the Ox Bow Incident revisited. what a shame. and what irony.

there is more i found on AZB. and this point is already too long. just suffice to say that glen only tried and tried again to satisfy b98. an impossible task. and please read this from glen to b98:

from glen to the proctologist:

... doctorb98, if the pockets and slate are a real problem for you, I can exchange the rails and slate at the factory for the league pocket rails, and shallow shelf slate, that's not a problem, let me know if that works for you.

Glen 702-927-5689

glen trying to help b98...

glen never [even now] said a bad word about b98 - TO HIS CREDIT!!!! do you get something from all of this, you who proved you are fools????

so if i were glen, here is what i would do: i would send the money to the buyer of the table [milwaukeepeach] and that be the end of it. wash my hands of it.

as far as b98 is concerned, let him rot.

but glen is more of a gentleman than me. he truly lives in a truck always crossing the states to give folks a Perfect Table. and even if it not a diamond.

end of story...

to those who could see thru the clouds, all the best;
to those who are blind - Seek Help and i hope it is not too late!

smokey
 
Ernesto is the best anyway-Who needs this guy?

I was at a table set-up job this guy did and he brought along his own horn. Whenever anyone asked him a question, he just brought out his horn and tooted it! Very strange!!:smile:
 
glen never [even now] said a bad word about b98 - TO HIS CREDIT!!!! do you get something from all of this, you who proved you are fools????

I guess I'm a "fool". My concern isn't about doc and what kind of guy he is, my concern is how a "businessman" conducts his business. For me personally, I was completely turned off by Glen when he made his post calling out Diamond Billiards on here. It was at that point that I decided this wasn't the kind of person I would want to do business with. His boisterous, "I'm the greatest thing since sliced bread" posts since then and his actions in this thread only confirm my initial thoughts.

Now I hear that he got upset because someone dared to pay Ernesto a compliment? LOL, you guys can have Glen. I know Ernesto and they do not come any nicer than him. You would never catch Ernesto treating anyone, good or bad, the way Glen does. If they were the only 2 table mechanics in the world and Glen offered to come do my table for free, I would pass on the offer and buy Ernesto a round trip ticket to come do my table.
 
I all so know Glen, I have talked to him many times on the phone and in person. I have shot pool with him talked about life and carried slate to tables with him. I am sure I don't know him as well as some here but from what I have seen he is a man who will go way out of his way to help out someone who needs it. He traveled about 1500 miles OUT OF HIS WAY to set up my table then he had the nerve to charge me less then the guys in Denver (90 miles away) wanted to do the same job. I will go out of my way to help him every time I get the chance.
 
hi u...

you are a fool but also a good guy. i have read many of your posts, so i know you a bit. but you are wrong imho. in castigating someone you need to learn 'all' the facts available [and many were]. and in this case i do not think you bothered.

i do not know ernesto personally, but i know he is a complete gentleman. and his son is also a complete gentleman. and both are great assets to pool. i personally do not think ernesto is as good as glen, but that is just a biased opinion so i will not dispute that with you.

but i stand by my post and only hope you read it again. the proctologist imho needed a rather large suppository since birth. and you and others are blindly helping him screw others, when in fact, he himself is screwed up and has even demonstrated that on AZB.

in my opinion, we have to be better 'brothers' to each other here.

i hope you can see a little of me and my way of thinking.

all the best,
smokey

I guess I'm a "fool". My concern isn't about doc and what kind of guy he is, my concern is how a "businessman" conducts his business. For me personally, I was completely turned off by Glen when he made his post calling out Diamond Billiards on here. It was at that point that I decided this wasn't the kind of person I would want to do business with. His boisterous, "I'm the greatest thing since sliced bread" posts since then and his actions in this thread only confirm my initial thoughts.

Now I hear that he got upset because someone dared to pay Ernesto a compliment? LOL, you guys can have Glen. I know Ernesto and they do not come any nicer than him. You would never catch Ernesto treating anyone, good or bad, the way Glen does. If they were the only 2 table mechanics in the world and Glen offered to come do my table for free, I would pass on the offer and buy Ernesto a round trip ticket to come do my table.
 
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I all so know Glen, I have talked to him many times on the phone and in person. I have shot pool with him talked about life and carried slate to tables with him. I am sure I don't know him as well as some here but from what I have seen he is a man who will go way out of his way to help out someone who needs it. He traveled about 1500 miles OUT OF HIS WAY to set up my table then he had the nerve to charge me less then the guys in Denver (90 miles away) wanted to do the same job. I will go out of my way to help him every time I get the chance.

Cmon- He may be a hornblower but no way is he that dumb to travel 1500 miles in a truck to set up a table for the regular price. Thats just the line he handed you. No matter how you calculate it, that 1500 miles cost him 8-$900. He'd be out of business real soon if he did that kinda thing.
 
Bump for Glen

Glen Realkingcobra does absolutely superb work and will get my business.
Also if your on here again Glen thanks for the phone conversation on table mechanics last week it was the best conversation ive ever had about tables and the business.
Thank You Very Much,
Corbin "nibroc" Goggins
 
What I find disturbing, really disturbing, was rkc's initial responses. First, he blames the customer for not calling him. How dare the customer not chase his money. Lol. The money wasn't yours rkc. Deliver it in a timely, responsible, professional manner.

His attitude towards the general public is deplorable. Those that blindly defend his anti-social behavior are doing him no favors. Sadly, he will find out that he's not performing bypass surgery. He has a few jigs, and can smooth out wax and felt. Any monkey can do it. There are others that do it as well or better, including Ernesto and Rolando aravena.

Get a grip rkc. Your no gift. The only thing that separates your actions from being criminal are only the patience of your customer that you $hit all over.

You should be in jail for grand lacerny, IMO.

Even shoplifters don't get to pay for their goods after the crime.

A pool table mechanic. Lmfao. You got to be kidding me.

Rg
 
Cmon- He may be a hornblower but no way is he that dumb to travel 1500 miles in a truck to set up a table for the regular price. Thats just the line he handed you. No matter how you calculate it, that 1500 miles cost him 8-$900. He'd be out of business real soon if he did that kinda thing.

Thats one of the points I am trying to make he does not do this for the money He even modified my Diamond pro to make it easier to work on in the future. Sure I paid for that hardware and it took a few hours longer but most mechanics wouldn't even have known how to make it better let along offer to do it for nothing. He traveled from the pacific north west all the way to Colorado and I watched him drive out of here to Vegas at midnight. To me driving from Portland to Colorado in route to Las Vegas is going out of the way. I did the math and you are correct what I paid Glen was just enough to pay for the fuel. I am just glad that my short falls are not known to many here, I have never met anyone who is perfect but it sucks to get roasted for a deal gone bad when people just speculate on what they don't know.
 
hey Cuebuddy...

Thats one of the points I am trying to make he does not do this for the money He even modified my Diamond pro to make it easier to work on in the future. Sure I paid for that hardware and it took a few hours longer but most mechanics wouldn't even have known how to make it better let along offer to do it for nothing. He traveled from the pacific north west all the way to Colorado and I watched him drive out of here to Vegas at midnight. To me driving from Portland to Colorado in route to Las Vegas is going out of the way. I did the math and you are correct what I paid Glen was just enough to pay for the fuel. I am just glad that my short falls are not known to many here, I have never met anyone who is perfect but it sucks to get roasted for a deal gone bad when people just speculate on what they don't know.

i tried my best to post about b98 [proctologist] and "his way" in this world [post #167].

there is a saying:

To one who has had the experience - no explanation is necessary; to one who has not had the experience - NO explanation is POSSIBLE!!

even randy [nycdude] a supposed intelligent guy : is lost.

fools damned to be fools forever.

all the best,
smokey
 
Glen,

I hope you take a minute to read this. This is really an off the wall post for me - sorry to everybody else who reads it.

Most of the participants here are people with jobs, families, businesses, homes and daily responsibilities. Anybody who tries to live a responsible daily life would be appalled by your reaction, but they would not truly understand what causes it.

I look at the good you've done for people, the charitable, helpful person you can be, and I think I know what motivates you. You are one of those rare individuals whose pride and sense of self comes from truly pleasing others in their work. They are people whose self respect and daily gratification comes from being loved and adored by their customers. How we seek or respond to praise has a lot to do with who we are, how we were brought up

When things don't work out - and you are not loved - you say you don't care.

Glen, you will not find true fulfillment or lasting gratification from your customers. You may get praise, and admiration, but it's shallow and goes away quickly. It's cheap and disappears, because you're only as good as your last job, and your customers are only loyal as long as they feel like they benefit from your relationship.

Love is a primal thing that comes from deep within us and it comes from caring - truly caring - for another human being, and getting the same back in return. Love is not something we do for money, or are good at, or is even a skill, or is satisfied by praise. We seek it where we can and find it in some strange places.

What you need to do to clear up the nightmare that has become your life is to start taking care of business every day, make it a goal. Learn how to say "no" to customers when it doesn't make business sense for you. Allow for the "jesus factor" * when you schedule yourself.

Chris


* Jesus, that took longer than I thought! Jesus, I forgot about that! Jesus, I'm sorry I screwed up.
 
hey TATE...

i have to say that you have an 'off the wall' idea of things - just the kind of 'off the wall' things that make sense to me too...

what a world...

and, what a beautiful post!

for me, i hope glen always stays the same glen and never changes. of course, it would be great if he could get a watch that he respects, but that won't happen.

but anyway and again, just a note to you: what a great post!

all the best,
smokey


Glen,

I hope you take a minute to read this. This is really an off the wall post for me - sorry to everybody else who reads it.

Most of the participants here are people with jobs, families, businesses, homes and daily responsibilities. Anybody who tries to live a responsible daily life would be appalled by your reaction, but they would not truly understand what causes it.

I look at the good you've done for people, the charitable, helpful person you can be, and I think I know what motivates you. You are one of those rare individuals whose pride and sense of self comes from truly pleasing others in their work. They are people whose self respect and daily gratification comes from being loved and adored by their customers. How we seek or respond to praise has a lot to do with who we are, how we were brought up

When things don't work out - and you are not loved - you say you don't care.

Glen, you will not find true fulfillment or lasting gratification from your customers. You may get praise, and admiration, but it's shallow and goes away quickly. It's cheap and disappears, because you're only as good as your last job, and your customers are only loyal as long as they feel like they benefit from your relationship.

Love is a primal thing that comes from deep within us and it comes from caring - truly caring - for another human being, and getting the same back in return. Love is not something we do for money, or are good at, or is even a skill, or is satisfied by praise. We seek it where we can and find it in some strange places.

What you need to do to clear up the nightmare that has become your life is to start taking care of business every day, make it a goal. Learn how to say "no" to customers when it doesn't make business sense for you. Allow for the "jesus factor" * when you schedule yourself.

Chris


* Jesus, that took longer than I thought! Jesus, I forgot about that! Jesus, I'm sorry I screwed up.
 
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