African American pool pros

Weren't ALL of the afore-mentioned players born in the United States ... ?? ... Wouldn't that make them "American Americans" ... or am I missing something here ... ?? ... My "ancestors" came from Germany and France, but I was born in this country, so that makes me an "American", not a German-American or French-American ... Why must we keep "stirring the pot" of Racial Division by pandering to the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton ... If you are born in this country you are an AMERICAN, period !!!!!

Now, feel free to MF me all you like ...

Wow! You are right, and so smart to be the first to have that wildly brilliant thought!

Shux! I wish I could have come up with it.
 
Weren't ALL of the afore-mentioned players born in the United States ... ?? ... Wouldn't that make them "American Americans" ... or am I missing something here ... ?? ... My "ancestors" came from Germany and France, but I was born in this country, so that makes me an "American", not a German-American or French-American ... Why must we keep "stirring the pot" of Racial Division by pandering to the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton ... If you are born in this country you are an AMERICAN, period !!!!!

Now, feel free to MF me all you like ...

The cabinet of Canadian province of Nova Scotia has a (to quote his recent letter to the editor of the National Post):

Minister of African Nova Scotian Affairs, Economics and Rural Development and Tourism, Culture and Heritage

Never underestimate the desire and ability of politicians to split society into competing interests to receive taxpayer money in exchange for votes. :grin:
 
wonder where James Brown got his idea of a stage show from?

Jam, no one and I mean NO ONE on this planet could dance like James Brown. There is a whole generation that has never witnessed what a dancing machine he was... Check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2gEAvOW2nc

Long before anyone heard of Soul Brother #1 there was a guy name of Chuck Berry that could command a stage pretty good and had moves nobody had ever seen.

Hu
 
Double J (sea turtle)

So fitting! LOL! Sea Turtle - ha, ha, ha...

My contribution to the thread, though I do not know much of his tournament history, is a gentleman I came to know ever so briefly by the name of Robert "Rags" Woods.
 

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James Evans

I think i saw James Evans play in '65.Jay thinks the timeframe may be
wrong.
I've never seen a picture of him.I'd really like to be sure.
Be really cool if someone could post a picture,especially a playing
picture.
Jam,Grady or Bill Porter comes to mind.

Watched him play a long straight pool session giving 100 to 75 for big $.

thanx...pt
 
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Had the pleasure (?) of playing Willie Munson back in the '70s in Milwaukee.
Does anyone remember "Jackie Robinson" who played in the DC area? Not his real name, which I don't remember. How about Tom "The Sailor" Cremer (not sure of the last name spelling), a great road player from the '60s?
 
I'm not going to read through this whole thread to see if she's been mentioned nor to see if the subject of the thread has changed. I'll just throw the female player Kim Jones' name in.
 
Weren't ALL of the afore-mentioned players born in the United States ... ?? ... Wouldn't that make them "American Americans" ... or am I missing something here ... ?? ... My "ancestors" came from Germany and France, but I was born in this country, so that makes me an "American", not a German-American or French-American ... Why must we keep "stirring the pot" of Racial Division by pandering to the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton ... If you are born in this country you are an AMERICAN, period !!!!!

Now, feel free to MF me all you like ...

Great F**KING post. I've lived outside of the U.S. a chunk of my life and I'm here to tell everyone.... ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS PEOPLE HATE ABOUT AMERICANS IS when they ask us where we are from... we almost always say I was born in America but my family is Irish, or German, or whatever.

You were born in America... then get a clue... you are American! If you were born in Ireland, would you say my family is from America so I mush be American-Irish?
 
Great F**KING post. I've lived outside of the U.S. a chunk of my life and I'm here to tell everyone.... ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS PEOPLE HATE ABOUT AMERICANS IS when they ask us where we are from... we almost always say I was born in America but my family is Irish, or German, or whatever.

You were born in America... then get a clue... you are American! If you were born in Ireland, would you say my family is from America so I mush be American-Irish?

the concept is great but the truth is that's just not the way the world works. if you're not white it's expected you have something in front of american. native, asian, mexican.....american the list goes on and on
 
...My contribution to the thread, though I do not know much of his tournament history, is a gentleman I came to know ever so briefly by the name of Robert "Rags" Woods.

In L.A., Rags is still spoken of by the older black players with great respect. Another fine black player who's name has not yet been mentioned still playing out of L.A.: Larry "Moto" Evans. Also, the formidable "Banking" Mike. And then there's the great "Monster" John out of Hollywood, Florida.
 
Tommy the Sailor

Had the pleasure (?) of playing Willie Munson back in the '70s in Milwaukee.
Does anyone remember "Jackie Robinson" who played in the DC area? Not his real name, which I don't remember. How about Tom "The Sailor" Cremer (not sure of the last name spelling), a great road player from the '60s?


Tommy the Sailor Kramer was a white man. (and an obnoxious drunk)

Beard
 
Can anyone name some? Why are there not more?

I played with "Banking" Bobby West in the early 90's in a $$ league. If I recall correctly he played tournaments with the Miz in the early 80's. He was an amazing player and a great person. I do recall him being around Hard Times bellflower, California when Keith was practically untouchable. Great times!
 
Weren't ALL of the afore-mentioned players born in the United States ... ?? ... Wouldn't that make them "American Americans" ... or am I missing something here ... ?? ... My "ancestors" came from Germany and France, but I was born in this country, so that makes me an "American", not a German-American or French-American ... Why must we keep "stirring the pot" of Racial Division by pandering to the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton ... If you are born in this country you are an AMERICAN, period !!!!!

Now, feel free to MF me all you like ...
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I agree with you. I always felt the term "African-American" was silly.
If a white South African moved to the United States they would also be African-American, wouldn't they? Who decided that the term should only be used to identify black people? And why ONLY black people? Why not Euro-Americans, Asian-Americans, Caribbean-Americans, etc.?

It seems like yet another way for white people that were born here to separate themselves from everyone else.

Although I think the term "African-American" was created by black people in an effort to acknowledge their ancestral roots to the African continent, I maintain it is inaccurate and only serves to promote division.

I, myself, am human.
 
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I agree with you. I always felt the term "African-American" was silly.
If a white South African moved to the United States they would also be African-American, wouldn't they? Who decided that the term should only be used to identify black people? And why ONLY black people? Why not Euro-Americans, Asian-Americans, Caribbean-Americans, etc.?

It seems like yet another way for white people that were born here to separate themselves from everyone else.

Although I think the term "African-American" was created by black people in an effort to acknowledge their ancestral roots to the African continent, I maintain it is inaccurate and only serves to promote division.

I, myself, am human.


it just seemed more dignified than the previous titles for african americans.
 
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I agree with you. I always felt the term "African-American" was silly.
If a white South African moved to the United States they would also be African-American, wouldn't they? Who decided that the term should only be used to identify black people? And why ONLY black people? Why not Euro-Americans, Asian-Americans, Caribbean-Americans, etc.?

It seems like yet another way for white people that were born here to separate themselves from everyone else.

Although I think the term "African-American" was created by black people in an effort to acknowledge their ancestral roots to the African continent, I maintain it is inaccurate and only serves to promote division.

I, myself, am human.

The term was created as a replacement for "colored" or "Negro" or "Afro American." Here's a snippet from the Wiki article about the term "African American":


The terms mulatto and colored were widely used until the second quarter of the 20th century, when they were considered outmoded and generally gave way to the use of negro. By the 1940s, the term commonly was capitalized, but by the mid 1960s, it had acquired negative connotations, though the term mulatto is still in use in many parts of Latin America and is not considered offensive there. Today, in the culture of the United States, the term is considered inappropriate and is now rarely used and perceived as a pejorative.

The term Negro is largely out of use among the younger black generation, but is still used by a substantial block of older black Americans, particularly in the southern U.S. In Latin America, negro is the term generally used to refer and describe black people and, similarly to mulatto, it is not considered offensive at all in these regions.

Negroid was a term used by anthropologists first in the 18th century to describe some indigenous Africans and their descendants throughout the African diaspora. As with most descriptors of race based on inconsistent, unscientific phenotypical standards, the term is controversial and imprecise. Some blacks have substituted the term Africoid, which, unlike Negroid, encompasses the phenotypes of all indigenous peoples of Africa
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Black Americans make up the single largest racial minority in the United States and form the second largest racial group after whites in the United States.

I worked with an author on a book about President Obama. Interestingly, though he is considered "black" by the majority of Americans today, there's a strong contingency of Asian Americans who believe his success should be credited to his Asian-Pacific origins as a young child in Indonesia and growing up in Hawaii. In fact, they consider him the Asian-Pacific President.
 
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