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SpiderWebComm

SpiderWebComm

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The conversation in the other thread made me think this would be a good discussion as well. The score is 97-85 (you're down) in a race to 100. Both players are on two fouls and you (unfortunately) made the first foul so you're shooting first. You're playing for (whatever the max that you'd ever bet) and the level of your opponent is no less than your speed. What do you do?


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I learned a great aggressive safe here, but I won't say anything until the replies roll in.

Dave
 
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I'm looking forward to seeing what your aggressive safe would be.

If the opponent only needs one and you are both on two fouls, I don't see how you can take a chance at leaving him a shot and if that is the case, I just take a foul. Then I have to rebreak and make sure I don't leave him a shot and he is on two.

(By the way, there's no way you could both be on two fouls and both be at 99 in a game to a hundred.)
 
dmgwalsh said:
I'm looking forward to seeing what your aggressive safe would be.

If the opponent only needs one and you are both on two fouls, I don't see how you can take a chance at leaving him a shot and if that is the case, I just take a foul. Then I have to rebreak and make sure I don't leave him a shot and he is on two.

(By the way, there's no way you could both be on two fouls and both be at 99 in a game to a hundred.)
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Good point - LOL - I missed that. I was trying to say you gotta do something and not take an intentional. It would have been better to say your opponent is on 97 (I think that's right) and you're on something like 85. Maybe that's a better way to look at it.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
The conversation in the other thread made me think this would be a good discussion as well. The score is 97-85 (you're down) in a race to 100. Both players are on two fouls and you (unfortunately) made the first foul so you're shooting first. You're playing for (whatever the max that you'd ever bet) and the level of your opponent is no less than your speed. What do you do?


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I learned a great aggressive safe here, but I won't say anything until the replies roll in.

Dave
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I'd powder my hands up, look over at you and say, "Percentage players die broke too, don"t they Spidey? Watch this - fast and loose. 8 Ball corner pocket."


Then I'd cut the 8 in the corner.

LOL


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Seriously, the first thing I thought of was following softly into the 1 ball, trying to freeze the cue ball to the one and send a ball (possibly one of the back corner balls - or a ball in the back row) to that top rail. Low percentage, but what the hell. If the wager was big enough, I'd just say the hell with it, and pick up the cue ball and throw it at my opponent. That works too.

:)
 
Blackjack said:
Low percentage, but what the hell. If the wager was big enough, I'd just say the hell with it, and pick up the cue ball and throw it at my opponent. That works too.
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LOL! I was thinking the same thing... Grab the money off the light and run!!! Or maybe call one of the wing balls and hit em hard!
 
SpiderWebComm said:
The conversation in the other thread made me think this would be a good discussion as well. The score is 97-85 (you're down) in a race to 100. Both players are on two fouls and you (unfortunately) made the first foul so you're shooting first. You're playing for (whatever the max that you'd ever bet) and the level of your opponent is no less than your speed. What do you do?


screenshot20101210at235.png


I learned a great aggressive safe here, but I won't say anything until the replies roll in.

Dave
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What about shooting the Crane Shot, go 2 rails with the cueball and slide off the side of the rack. and continue down into the kitchen area after contacting a rail.
I have tried this several times already, and each time was pretty successful !

-Steve

If Cuetable.com was working i would do a diagram to show what i mean !
 
stevekur1 said:
What about shooting the Crane Shot, go 2 rails with the cueball and slide off the side of the rack. and continue down into the kitchen area after contacting a rail.
I have tried this several times already, and each time was pretty successful !

-Steve

If Cuetable.com was working i would do a diagram to show what i mean !
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That isn't what I was thinking -- but that's certainly a great option. Any other ideas?
 
I read this too late

Just got around to reading this and as I read the question and looked at the table. Right away, the Crane Safety came to my mind.
That would be the best thing to try or go ahead and take the third foul. Even if you miss skimming the side of the rack on the Crane safety. That would be your third foul. Most likely your opponent would make you take an opening break shot. Hope that you pull off the best opening break safe in your Life. But, even if you do, you still have a large hill to climb with the score being 97 to 69 at that point.
 
If you know the table,and if this is most you have ever played for you had better know the table,the one pocket break kicking into the stack off the
long rail may be your salvation!
Two rails into the bottom of the rack is available but imho riskier.
Thats my take,what is your's?
 
SpiderWebComm said:
That isn't what I was thinking -- but that's certainly a great option. Any other ideas?
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Well i would not one rail kick at the side of the rack, i have tried that several times as well. and each time was sell out city, and the same goes for rolling forward into the front of the rack. you need to have a lot of trust in the roll of the table for that !!!
 
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Yes

alphadog said:
If you know the table,and if this is most you have ever played for you had better know the table,the one pocket break kicking into the stack off the
long rail may be your salvation!
Two rails into the bottom of the rack is available but imho riskier.
Thats my take,what is your's?
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Jack, both good ideas. They are both hard shots to pull off but so is the Crane's safe. One rail to the back of the rack from that spot where the cue ball lays is tough but with a lot of left or right English, depending what side you try it on, it can be done.
Two rails behind the rack is tough too b/c many times the cue ball will slid off the back of the rack to an open area but it can be nicely done. All these shots mention are very good and the type of shots that need to be practiced by all of us.
Thanks for bring these two other shots up.
 
I would certainly roll dead on to the head ball. IMO this is actually a pretty high percentage safety.
 
Well you guys certainly put alot of faith in the roll of the table, either that or you are just angry at your wallets !!!!
 
stevekur1 said:
either that or you are just angry at your wallets !!!!
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Sorry mr Mad Quoter, i had to Quote none other than Danny D on that one !!!!

Blackjack said:
Neither. I'm just a better lagger than Charlie Eames.

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I Highly doubt that one Mr Dave, tell you what we will even spot you, you can shoot the CB like its Curling. Strike the CB and then use the table brush to help gain you a couple of inches with the brushing :kma: !!!!!!
 
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Brushing?

stevekur1 said:
Sorry mr Mad Quoter, i had to Quote none other than Danny D on that one !!!!



I Highly doubt that one Mr Dave, tell you what we will even spot you, you can shoot the CB like its Curling. Strike the CB and then use the table brush to help gain you a couple of inches with the brushing :kma: !!!!!!
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Brushing the table in a curling fashion would slow the ball down IMO. Overhit the ball, Dave, and brush the cloth to slow it until it's parked on the rail!!!
 
Ron F said:
Brushing the table in a curling fashion would slow the ball down IMO. Overhit the ball, Dave, and brush the cloth to slow it until it's parked on the rail!!!
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Thanks for the tip, Ron, but I'd probably still throw the cue ball at my opponent. I have a hell of a spitball.
 
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