What Would You Damn Do Here?

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What Would You Damn Do Here?

I am playing McCreesh in tourney over weekend, he wins the first 2 in about 10 sec, but I stay in it and we go hill-hill with me breaking.

Here is the first shot after the break:

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The easiest safe I see is hitting the left side of the 2 fairly soft, bringing the cue below the blocking 7. As long as you don't go long, he's not got much. If you go a tad short, the 9 blocks a cross side bank, but the downside is it leaves a "stab" at the 9 and a big side pocket with the six there. You should be good enough to force a kick since you're hanging with Ryan.

I know it likely leaves a relatively easy kick, but I'm not seeing a better % play overall.
 
BB:

I'm thinking brush the 2 ball ever so thin and let whitey track back up table creating distance up by (or past) the 8 ball and there's a chance for blockers as well.

The key is the thin brush on the 2 to keep it somewhere mid-footrail.

Best,
Brian kc
 
Simple

:thumbup:Cut the 2 in and Run Dead out, shake his hand and and say thanks for coming.

That will be $20 for the advise and a free soda for the humor.
 
Thanks for the input, guys!

KK9- I didn't like the punt. He kicks very well and I felt-at best- I am returning to the table will a full-length shot at the 2.

KChicks- I can't thin-saafe the ball, in general. I got about = chance of missing the whole MFer.:eek:
 
Kickin' Chicken said:
BB:

I'm thinking brush the 2 ball ever so thin and let whitey track back up table creating distance up by (or past) the 8 ball and there's a chance for blockers as well.

The key is the thin brush on the 2 to keep it somewhere mid-footrail.

Best,
Brian kc
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This seemed to be the preferred choice of the pros when watching Turning Stone this weekend.
 
Black-Balled said:
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What Would You Damn Do Here?

I am playing McCreesh in tourney over weekend, he wins the first 2 in about 10 sec, but I stay in it and we go hill-hill with me breaking.

Here is the first shot after the break:

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Cut the 2 on the left side. You have 7, 9 and 3 to hide behind. Chances are good you don't leave a shot.
 
This is one of those dam predicaments. I GOOD and easy safety doesn't seem to be something that I see. I might be forced to accept a weak safety and hope that I hook my opponent behind the nine ball which I didn't do in the layout. At least I will contain their banking because the side pocket is blocked by the 9 and the three ball. If I get lucky they will have to kick at the object ball.

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If I am feeling the part of a fool that day and think that I have the eyes of a eagle, I will just try to thin the two ball in the left pocket. I might make it, I might miss it and leave a shot or not leave a shot. :p
 
Neil said:
You cut the 2 in. You have an open shot at it, with natural position to the 3, just have to control the speed. These are must make shots when playing at the higher levels. And, with 15 min. practice on them, you will find that they really aren't that hard at all. You just aren't used to shooting them.

You have a good opportunity to keep your opponent in his chair. Why try a safe and let him back to the table??
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I would agree Neil, but this is not a high percentage shot for me. In fact I despise this shot :) Now you just forced me to shoot 100 of these when I get home :)
 
Im cutting this ball in every time.

There are about 500 ways to sell out on this shot trying to play a safe, and the table is wide open. You will have a shot on the three should you make the ball...

The added bonus, is unless you jaw this shot, the odds are that you will leave, at the very least, a weak safe or very difficult shot for your opponent should you miss.

Its near impossible to lock him up from here, so I'm taking a chance to win the game.
 
Black-Balled said:
Thanks for the input, guys!

KChicks- I can't thin-saafe the ball, in general. I got about = chance of missing the whole MFer.:eek:
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Depending on the speed, missing the whole ball might lead to good things here:

2 caroms into the corner off the 7.

2 sends the 7 toward the side and the helper 6.

2 gets the 9 moving toward the side and the helper 6.

2 kicks out to the left side of the table, leaving him hooked behind the 7.

I suppose you could also end-up completely selling out.
 
Black-Balled said:
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What Would You Damn Do Here?

I am playing McCreesh in tourney over weekend, he wins the first 2 in about 10 sec, but I stay in it and we go hill-hill with me breaking.

Here is the first shot after the break:

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You could also bank he 2 ball up table 1/2 way and use the nine and three as blockers for the side pocket. Cueing would be center high whitey roller, it's all about speed and a shot a good player will make all the time, just gotta watch the window.
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Mosconiac has the closest to my determination!

Thanks for the thought, folks!

I really should have cut the 1 in, but I just wasn't feeling it.

As the worse player in the match-up (which was irrelevant, as it is hill-hiil:angry:), there was no way I wanted him back at the table.

What was looking good to me was the 9 in the side pocket via kicking the 2 into it, then letting it carom off the 6. I liked that coz I could hit is relatively firmly and was 95% sure I could stick CB on end rail.

What I failed to factor was*: .95 x .6 x .4 x .7 = .1596% success rate!!duh

I left the following and he made a good out to win and I felt like a dumbass.

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*IMO:
.95 = chance of leaving cb on end rail
.6 = chance of hitting 9 in proper direction
.4= chance of 9 hitting proper side of 6
.7= chance of 9 dropping
 
I'm still doing the ever so thin brush on the right side of the 2 ball and trying to create distance and possible blockers, your two best friends in safety play.

Here's why I'm not attempting to cut that 2 ball in the corner:

In order to make the 2 ball cut, you have to turn whitey loose. This isn't a soft shot by any means. And, I'm thinking for most advanced players (not quite A's), this is a 70 - 80% shot at best.

BB, you said that, in retrospect, you should have just cut the 2 in, but alternatively, you said you didn't think you could do the thin safe I suggested. I believe that it's exactly the same hit, just much softer in the case of the safety attempt.

I really think that the 70 - 80% chance to make that 2 ball with sending whitey on a tough-to-figure high-speed journey makes the safety much more appealing, IMHO.

Best,
Brian kc
 
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