Graicio? he's been doing some really cool stuff with the 360 tributes... amateur cue guesser here
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Butterflys at its best!
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Don't know who did it, but it sure is purdy. Eyecatching, for sure.
mia , you must first understand the complex design of cue making and butterflys before cutting a masterpiece down.
holy smokes!!!!
there's a zillion bflys :thumbup:
intense is right!!
i like the handle, opposing bflys
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Agreed that it's a beautiful piece of work. I don't know much about cue making, but gawd, I can only imagine how much time must have gone into this.
As for flaws, there is a pattern that the cue maker was trying to achieve and the pattern does not hold true throughout. Looking at the first picture at the beginning of this thread; there are long red veneers and short red veneers. The long reds have black veneers on either side. The short reds have veneers only on the bottom side, EXCEPT two of the short reds have black veneers on BOTH sides.
I do believe that people are pointing out that the pattern was "missed" when they refer to "flaws". That doesn't necessarily mean that they don't admire the overall work as much as you or me.
Fatz
ok, there is not supposed to uniform there are variations in all things and this cue was supposed to have the mild variation to be thru the whole cue each, butterfly has to be glued up and turned. this cue spent more time on a lathe than any other i know of. and the butterfly cue makers will attest to the amount of work put into the vast amount of flys!
I'm not saying that this cue wasn't a lot of work. I'm sure it was. I'm also not saying that the execution of butterflies isn't extremely difficult. I know it is. I visited Paul Fanelli's shop a NUMBER of times so I know its no small feat to pull of complex butterflies like this.
Perhaps I chose the wrong word when I said 'flaws'. What I should have said was 'inconsistencies in the pattern'. Frankly, I tend to doubt that the inconsistencies here were intentional as you seem to claim.
The cue is impressive to say the least. Congrats.
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Butterflys
I'm coming out of retirement to post on this thread.
First off, I bet you guys would stand in front of the Mona Lisa and say that
one eye is slightly smaller than the other. Second never assume what a cue maker is trying to do, especially Richard.
Third, you ever look a bird feathers, they aren't exactly perfect. Fourth, you all are missing the trick that Richard used in
the middle of the handle. Try and figure out how he did that, it ain't just butterflys. Finally, and most importantly,
Richard came up with the idea. He has come up with more original designs than other cuemaker, period!
Now back to reitirement.
I'm coming out of retirement to post on this thread.
First off, I bet you guys would stand in front of the Mona Lisa and say that
one eye is slightly smaller than the other. Second never assume what a cue maker is trying to do, especially Richard.
Third, you ever look a bird feathers, they aren't exactly perfect. Fourth, you all are missing the trick that Richard used in
the middle of the handle. Try and figure out how he did that, it ain't just butterflys. Finally, and most importantly,
Richard came up with the idea. He has come up with more original designs than other cuemaker, period!
Now back to reitirement.
This is ridiculous. Richard Black is actually an ARTIST constantly expanding the frontiers of cuemaking. He doesn't just do more detailed versions of past cues he did, he comes up with remarkable new designs time after time and he has done so for a lot longer than almost any cuemaker has been building cues.
To spend time looking for something "flawed" to demonstrate whatever, reflects a lot more on the critic than it does on the artist. It is common for the greatest artists of all time to paint over something they started and no one suggested anything when they did. Richard Black has been and still is the one cuemaker who is more than just a great craftsman.
I think back on all the cues I have seen over the years and almost every one that I can clearly remember was done by Richard. I remember a lot of other cues I really admired, but not as clearly as Richards. He may not be the most perfect craftsman but he is far and away the most imaginative.
To spend time looking for something "flawed" to demonstrate whatever, reflects a lot more on the critic than it does on the artist. It is common for the greatest artists of all time to paint over something they started and no one suggested anything when they did. Richard Black has been and still is the one cuemaker who is more than just a great craftsman.
I think back on all the cues I have seen over the years and almost every one that I can clearly remember was done by Richard. I remember a lot of other cues I really admired, but not as clearly as Richards. He may not be the most perfect craftsman but he is far and away the most imaginative.
I'm left scratching my head at how he managed to pull off that center handle section....wow !!
Not missed by me. The sharp points are sharp both up and down. How DID he do that?
Also I like the proportions of the middle section. A cue butt obviously is larger in diameter at the butt end than at the joint. So I like the fact that the middle section is not exactly in the middle, but more towards the butt end. The middle section is not the same length as the traditional wrap section so he had to decide exactly "where" to place the middle section and I think he got it just right. The proportions of length of the sections to diameter of the section looks really good to my eye.
Fatz
I will admit that I did assume there was supposed to be a certain pattern. If I am wrong about that, I apologize to the OP and the cue builder.
However, the point of my post was not to criticize. In fact I think this is a beautiful cue. My intention was to point out that even the people who used the word "flaw" were not even criticizing the cue's OVERALL beauty and execution. Even those people seemed to appreciate the cue and I thought their use of the word "flaw" was being taken more harshly than it was meant.
And now I am assuming I knew what they meant, so again, if I am wrong, I will apologize to them as well.
Fatz