Great question! If you felt sluggish, I would guess they started playing long on you. Also, your type of stroke can be a factor. Tensing up will probably shorten the bank. Minimizing the number of variables is nothing that a lot of reps can't fix.
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Great question! If you felt sluggish, I would guess they started playing long on you. Also, your type of stroke can be a factor. Tensing up will probably shorten the bank. Minimizing the number of variables is nothing that a lot of reps can't fix.
You didn't say what or how much you had to eat....
I can always predict a fall off when I eat... I played a friend some 9ball 2 weeks ago and I went the first hour without missing a ball...
He literally only got to the table off of dry breaks, 1-2 scratches off the break or to kick a couple of time when I stuck him to something.... They finally brought my food out and I ate while playing.... 10 minutes after I finished I missed my first shot... and over the next hour I missed 4-5 more..
Danny D. has always said you should eat light if you have to eat anything at all which is very hard since most rooms have standard bar food fare....
I was actually considering making some stuff to take to music city this year... I am thinking a stockpile of peanut butter and banana sandwiches might be my tournament kit......
I can always predict a fall off when I eat... I played a friend some 9ball 2 weeks ago and I went the first hour without missing a ball...
He literally only got to the table off of dry breaks, 1-2 scratches off the break or to kick a couple of time when I stuck him to something.... They finally brought my food out and I ate while playing.... 10 minutes after I finished I missed my first shot... and over the next hour I missed 4-5 more..
Danny D. has always said you should eat light if you have to eat anything at all which is very hard since most rooms have standard bar food fare....
I was actually considering making some stuff to take to music city this year... I am thinking a stockpile of peanut butter and banana sandwiches might be my tournament kit......
Some pretty good answers so far but look at the last one here. He said he would "Try" you some. maybe that is what you are doing, just "Trying" this for now.
I think you know the answer as well as anyone, but slam your little finger in the car door, get mad, and do it. A person has to get exhausted to get into shape!
If it were easy everyone would be doing it!
Stamina
Hi Jay,
Thanks for all you do for pool and Happy New Years!
Being in my late, middle earlies myself, I make sure I have water, protein/energy bars, fruit, etc for long sessions.
Staying focused and concentrating for 2 or 3 hours is hard work and I make sure to keep my body right.
My guess is that you probably got tired, either mentally or physically.
Perhaps some exercise, more action, and a nutrition plan will keep you sharp through out the match. This plan is working for me and I can still play 4 or 5 hours a day and not be washed out.
Hope that helps!
Hi Jay,
Thanks for all you do for pool and Happy New Years!
Being in my late, middle earlies myself, I make sure I have water, protein/energy bars, fruit, etc for long sessions.
Staying focused and concentrating for 2 or 3 hours is hard work and I make sure to keep my body right.
My guess is that you probably got tired, either mentally or physically.
Perhaps some exercise, more action, and a nutrition plan will keep you sharp through out the match. This plan is working for me and I can still play 4 or 5 hours a day and not be washed out.
Hope that helps!
Lots of good stuff here, a feast for thought. Doubt is very normal, and cannot and will not be eliminated completely... we have it for a reason in our evolutionary paths and it's not gone yet. I think it's important to acknowledge it, bring it to the conscious level, acknowledge it's power, then put it in it's place and move on back to confidence...consciously.
HNY!
HNY!
I agree with the above. Couldn't have said it better. Johnnyt
Come on Jay, what can you expect of your game if you don't play much anymore. Not only play in practice but you need to be in steady action to have confidence in your abilities.
But also the guy you played is a very good player and hard to beat. He deserves some credit for the outcome of your match. He's been in steady action lately and I'm very impressed with his game. Especially his one hole game, which is a very close kin to banks.
Keep your spirits up and play with confidence at the DCC. Good luck.
But also the guy you played is a very good player and hard to beat. He deserves some credit for the outcome of your match. He's been in steady action lately and I'm very impressed with his game. Especially his one hole game, which is a very close kin to banks.
Keep your spirits up and play with confidence at the DCC. Good luck.
Dog track Adrian?
If that's the Adrian, in CA, I played him at Easy Street Billiards in Monterey. I played a pretty sporty long, shallow end-rail bank on him with reverse and draw from half a table for a strange position I was trying to get. A free shot. It barely missed, but I think it was my best miss ever! Said he does well playing the dogs at the track, but said he plays like a dog at the table. He plays fine. Great guy, tell him the Okie said hello.....
If that's the Adrian, in CA, I played him at Easy Street Billiards in Monterey. I played a pretty sporty long, shallow end-rail bank on him with reverse and draw from half a table for a strange position I was trying to get. A free shot. It barely missed, but I think it was my best miss ever! Said he does well playing the dogs at the track, but said he plays like a dog at the table. He plays fine. Great guy, tell him the Okie said hello.....
Where can you bet the Greyhounds in CA? Johnnyt
Hi Jay,
Happy New Year to you to. Please do not get upset from my suggestion i really do not know your real level, a side from luck factor, two most critical reason why we play bad, going down correct on the shot, and tip contact point during impact. Other factor, you leaving pool for two years effected your ability to quickly process the check list and fetch needed technical information required to make a shot, mainly you forget a step or two under pressure , human forget, when you were fresh, you played good, but as time went by you got a little tired, and started to take things for granted, when that happens it becomes a chain reaction everything starts going down hill.
I highly recommend practice nine ball serious for 2 month or until you start running racks comfortably; the shot you miss re do few times with all kind of english and speed. After that you aiming is solid (note i did not say stroke), then attack bank pool practice , of course bank science is way more advance than pocketing science. Lastly do not rush shots.
Ya know. They say you should never try, you should just do. Trying means you are leaving a possibility to fail. Sadly, I fail more than succeed so I keep it real and try. Hahaha
John, John, John...You need to sell, sell, sell..... Boy I can't teach you anything... LOL
See my next post to Jay.. then repost your answer...
JK
Happy New Year!
Jay, this is John (JK) I have this great DVD and it could help you to the next level and if you bring it to the derby I will sign it for you!!:grin:
Happy New Years!
I can't wait for your book,
Mark
Gamblers only?
First, Happy New Year Jay. Gambling IMO has little to do with poor performance. Certainly gambling is one of the factors in the mental scheme of things. Anyone who lays off for a while is going to struggle. I also never believe a pool player who says they have not been playing much. I actually believe you know what you need. Balls. More balls. And of course hit lots of balls. And of course Kamuii chalk and an ld shaft. And one of those gloves. And earmuffs. Be the ball. Get some candles that smell good and light them all around the table. Maybe a massage with a happy ending. Drink some Cuban coffee. Hit more balls. Its a journey.
First, Happy New Year Jay. Gambling IMO has little to do with poor performance. Certainly gambling is one of the factors in the mental scheme of things. Anyone who lays off for a while is going to struggle. I also never believe a pool player who says they have not been playing much. I actually believe you know what you need. Balls. More balls. And of course hit lots of balls. And of course Kamuii chalk and an ld shaft. And one of those gloves. And earmuffs. Be the ball. Get some candles that smell good and light them all around the table. Maybe a massage with a happy ending. Drink some Cuban coffee. Hit more balls. Its a journey.
I LOVE you guys! So much food for thought here. I always learn something (and relearn other things) when I ask questions on here. You guys have hit all the right buttons for me. I think maybe I expected a little too much of myself (we are our own worst critics) right away, with very little practice time. I did get a bit mentally fatigued and lost some (a lot) of my rhythm and focus. Some great responses on here! Thanks again.
Bottom line - pool is a tough game to play at a high level. It takes WORK and lots of it. True I'm a pretty busy man, but if I'm serious about playing well, I just have to put in the work. I guess I already knew that. You guys just reminded me that there aren't any short cuts. Okay, I'm off to hit balls.
Bottom line - pool is a tough game to play at a high level. It takes WORK and lots of it. True I'm a pretty busy man, but if I'm serious about playing well, I just have to put in the work. I guess I already knew that. You guys just reminded me that there aren't any short cuts. Okay, I'm off to hit balls.
I LOVE you guys! So much food for thought here. I always learn something (and relearn other things) when I ask questions on here. You guys have hit all the right buttons for me. I think maybe I expected a little too much of myself (we are our own worst critics) right away, with very little practice time. I did get a bit mentally fatigued and lost some (a lot) of my rhythm and focus. Some great responses on here! Thanks again.
Bottom line - pool is a tough game to play at a high level. It takes WORK and lots of it. True I'm a pretty busy man, but if I'm serious about playing well, I just have to put in the work. I guess I already knew that. You guys just reminded me that there aren't any short cuts. Okay, I'm off to hit balls.
Jay, your computer is about 25 steps from your table! You can't get to the kitchen without walking past that Proam! Make it a point to leave your cue sitting on that table. And before you go anywhere or eat anything. Run 3 balls (banks). I kno you can play some, you spanked me. Just gotta find your stroke.
Hi Jay
I've played a lot of 9 ball banks since the 60's. It's my favorite game...very few rolls.
Banks is a little different from most games as there is no such thing as a 'hanger' bank. In other games , you get lose making easy shots. For us mortal players, all banks are tough. What happened to you in that session happens to me just about every session....start out making banks ( you havent missed any balls when you start ) , then the misses come ( and they will come ). The thing to remember is that we all miss ( bromback,truman, you, me, even eddie taylor ). When the misses come, you have to expext them and...you have to know that they will go. I always knew that I could overcome the misses and I would always get back to making banks. Know ing you can bank gets you over the hump. I've never played a session where I didnt get back back to making balls....might take a while..lol. I think if you had played longer, you would have started to make banks again. And, it's like putting, the more you make,the more you make.
Knowing you CAN bank is the key.
Good luck. Banks is a great game
I've played a lot of 9 ball banks since the 60's. It's my favorite game...very few rolls.
Banks is a little different from most games as there is no such thing as a 'hanger' bank. In other games , you get lose making easy shots. For us mortal players, all banks are tough. What happened to you in that session happens to me just about every session....start out making banks ( you havent missed any balls when you start ) , then the misses come ( and they will come ). The thing to remember is that we all miss ( bromback,truman, you, me, even eddie taylor ). When the misses come, you have to expext them and...you have to know that they will go. I always knew that I could overcome the misses and I would always get back to making banks. Know ing you can bank gets you over the hump. I've never played a session where I didnt get back back to making balls....might take a while..lol. I think if you had played longer, you would have started to make banks again. And, it's like putting, the more you make,the more you make.
Knowing you CAN bank is the key.
Good luck. Banks is a great game
Disagree. There are a whole lot of hanger banks.