Steroids in pool.
- Thread starter ClownFish
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Thats funny!
anyone who thinks the break is all about power doesn't know how to break.
the break is about accuracy and control..
it is generally accepted that Shane has the best break in the business.. I've met Shane in person. he's not all that big and of all the adjectives I could use to describe him "Powerful" isn't on the list.
ClownFish
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anyone who thinks the break is all about power doesn't know how to break.
the break is about accuracy and control..
it is generally accepted that Shane has the best break in the business.. I've met Shane in person. he's not all that big and of all the adjectives I could use to describe him "Powerful" isn't on the list.
the quote was mostly all about power, not all about power.
and the point was thats what separates men from women, break power!! extra spin. they can hit the ball equally soft with finese.
a man can hit harder with control.
a man on steroids, can hit harderer with same control.
these juiced up baseball players jackin homers, these guys have power, bat speed, and finese.
with all else being equal, the person who has the ability to hit harder with control. will have more weapons in the arsenal. more weapons, means more victories.
i'm sorry but, i do not know this shane you speak of. and no one ever thought half these players or olympians were on the juice until they were busted.
In the long run all the gambling and prize money from tournaments will be $0.00 ...... The drugs and alcohol will eventually out run all the money you win.
There are guys that literally have had 6-7 $$$ figures go through their hands from playing pool and today can't rub two nickels together. Because the drugs and alcohol out ran the money they won.
I'm sure they had fun and was living the life of paradise.
But you truly have to ask yourself is it all worth the headaches, health issues, and possibly shortening your life or death.
There are guys that literally have had 6-7 $$$ figures go through their hands from playing pool and today can't rub two nickels together. Because the drugs and alcohol out ran the money they won.
I'm sure they had fun and was living the life of paradise.
But you truly have to ask yourself is it all worth the headaches, health issues, and possibly shortening your life or death.
ClownFish
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well said....
ALMOST rite,your balls will shrink,once you start putting all that extra test in your body,your balls will shrink because they stop making their own test when your body is getting it else where(through a syringe,synthiect test)!
correct..if anything it's the opposite..all steroids do is put fluid in ur muscle n gives u the extra ump to go to the gym..fluid in muscle swells em n allows u to lift heavier...ur thing is a muscle so...lol...Hgh on the other hand is the chit !!!
So you say "But the break is what separates th eboys from the girls and thats mostly all about power."
What about straight pool or one pocket? Are girls good enough for you then?
I would be interested to hear from the women on this board. Clownfish says you are inferior to men because you can't break hard. Personally I disagree, I think women can break hard and further more I don't think that power is what determines a good break.
Maybe you can get through to him, I can't seem to make a dent!
What about straight pool or one pocket? Are girls good enough for you then?
I would be interested to hear from the women on this board. Clownfish says you are inferior to men because you can't break hard. Personally I disagree, I think women can break hard and further more I don't think that power is what determines a good break.
Maybe you can get through to him, I can't seem to make a dent!
You should talk to Ken Caminiti about this. Oh wait... you can't. He's dead from a drug overdose. But I'm sure he thought he was using chemicals right...
At this point, I think you're a troll. If a person was seriously considering this, he wouldn't broadcast it on the Internet. Also, all of your "women can't break as hard as men and that's the difference" and "who is this shane person" BS reeks of extra-strength troll.
Anyone else get the feeling ClownFish is the third or fourth alias of one of the resident trolls ?
I could be wrong but it just feels that way to me........
Besides who the hell talks about pro pool and has never heard of Shane ? Kind of like a guy in golf forum saying "Tiger who?"
Trolls be afoot.
I could be wrong but it just feels that way to me........
Besides who the hell talks about pro pool and has never heard of Shane ? Kind of like a guy in golf forum saying "Tiger who?"
Trolls be afoot.
I'm not so sure. I've actually been thinking about this for a while - not that I'm at all interested in using them myself but I've just been curious about whether or not they COULD be beneficial and I bet they could be.
I was a bit naive about their use in baseball at first. I understood that if you got stronger you would be able to hit the ball further but I didn't quite grasp that a lot of players were also hitting for much higher averages. It seemed as if their hand/eye coordination had improved. So I think if any drug could strengthen your muscles enough that you were able to control them a bit better you would be a better pool player.
I understand that the game of pool is not about power but it is about muscle/body control. It appears that steroids can help in this department. I'm willing to stand corrected on this though. I'm interested in what Chopdoc has to say on this, even if it's a lecture
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ClownFish
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cdryden, i was really trying to ignore you, because you're taking everything and turning it upside down, trying to turn a peaceful steroid discussion into me being a sexist. but apparently you wont go away.
im sure a man naturally having more physical power can also get more draw or follow, inside or outside english on a cue ball as well as break harder then a woman. everyone can hit a ball soft, stronger people physically have more range, and a greater amount of tools. but you refuse to say anything in rebutal to this, and only answer well hit all your shots hard. and go play a woman pro. I never said hit all your shots hard. and i never said i was near pro level myself. i don't have to lose to a woman pro, I can also lose to a regular woman player, i'm not that good yet.
pay attention, the point is constant practice and training is the most important element. but all this being equal, i think performance enhancing drugs elevate someones skillset.
now in regards to your male vs woman argument in pro level competitive sport as i have stated from the beginnig. put a woman in a nfl or nhl or nba uniform, or start putting them in mens brackets in tennis, golf, or friggin POOL. all these sports require a great deal of finese, touch, strategy the difference is speed and power.
who historicall has held all the speed and power records?? i'd say men over woman, this isn't sexist this is fact. and in the past 20-30 years and probably even longer people that have used performance enhancing chemicals have broken almost all the records.
ClownFish
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call me what you will i really don't care. and you're right im really not considering this for myself, as im a little to old to get started, it was more of a theoretical question. a if I could do it all over again type question phrased poorly.
in regards to shane, i am pretty new to az, and i do not think i have heard his name mentioned outside the az forums. im not the biggest pool fanatic in the world but i have heard of strickland, mosconi, archer, reyes, bustamanti, corey, robles, mika, and many other players. Someone on this thread compared Shane to Tiger Woods, and honestly I would not have been able to pick him out of a line up if you asked me before the poster put up his picture. sorry, im not trying to be a troll, but if I sound like one to you I must be. I am a fan of pool, forums, and discussions in general.
Most people don't want to spend the thousands of hours it takes to get to a high level.
The only thing steroids are going to do is give you roid rage and then you had better hope the guy you attack isn't carrying a concealed weapon. I've seen that happen with a football player and the guy with the concealed weapon won the fight.
ClownFish
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im not that type of a clown, im more like nemo, i can juggle though.
Why do i get the feeling that you and Thaiger are one and the same? You both start a controversial post and then try to spin it like it wasn't your intention. Any rational person who reads this thread from beginning to end would draw the same conclusion that you are being sexist.
ClownFish
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funny seems like you're the only one................
There is only so much strength needed to sufficiently hit the cue ball in any desired manner.
Draw shot-- the key to executing a good draw is not power it is stroke. While it is true that you need to hit it with some power, power alone does not make the ball come back any better. In fact hitting it too hard will just cause it to fly off the table.
Follow shot--- the above statement is the same for a follow shot.
Break shot--- This is the one time when you will use more power. But anytime you increase power to excess you decrease accuracy. I dont think steroids will allow you to hit the cue ball with max power and give you eagle eye vision so that you can control it. Beside the side effect would more that likely diminish your ability to control a max power shot.
They key to having a good, controlled power break is in your body mechanics. Not your muscles.
Draw shot-- the key to executing a good draw is not power it is stroke. While it is true that you need to hit it with some power, power alone does not make the ball come back any better. In fact hitting it too hard will just cause it to fly off the table.
Follow shot--- the above statement is the same for a follow shot.
Break shot--- This is the one time when you will use more power. But anytime you increase power to excess you decrease accuracy. I dont think steroids will allow you to hit the cue ball with max power and give you eagle eye vision so that you can control it. Beside the side effect would more that likely diminish your ability to control a max power shot.
They key to having a good, controlled power break is in your body mechanics. Not your muscles.