john schimdt vs jeremy jones

i hope the derby has some gold crowns or jj will be bored there because everybody especially the professionals will be betting high on 4.5 inch diamonds.
i understand you are friends with jj as i dont blame u. hes a great guy and player .
thing is i admit jj moves and banks better then me and the fact that he doesnt want to play on diamond tell me he thinks i run the balls better.
i take that as a compliment and if theres anything i might do better than him at onehole then i take that as a compliment.
not woofing just saying ,no hard feelings.
for the record im amazed at how many people talk about how easy a certain table is but i watch the same player miss plenty of balls on it etc.i never have understood that.im not directing that at u joe im saying in general. also i still owe u that beer later

You sound good John, finally escaped from all that torture in West Virgina. :wink:
Let me know if you want to play in the Bigfoot Challenge. I may be able to find a spot for you.
 
I do have a GREAT aiming system I think you should try John

i hope the derby has some gold crowns or jj will be bored there because everybody especially the professionals will be betting high on 4.5 inch diamonds.
i understand you are friends with jj as i dont blame u. hes a great guy and player .
thing is i admit jj moves and banks better then me and the fact that he doesnt want to play on diamond tell me he thinks i run the balls better.
i take that as a compliment and if theres anything i might do better than him at onehole then i take that as a compliment.

not woofing just saying ,no hard feelings.
for the record im amazed at how many people talk about how easy a certain table is but i watch the same player miss plenty of balls on it etc.i never have understood that.im not directing that at u joe im saying in general. also i still owe u that beer later

I can't believe Jeremy would think you run balls better than him, after all your high run in straight pool is just SLIGHTLY more than 400. :wink:

I do have a GREAT :eek: aiming system:eek: I think you should try John, you'll be cutting, banking, slicing, dicing and "stuffing" the 4" pockets. :groucho:

Hope you're doing well my friend, I may see you at "The Derby"...Aloha
 
Sometimes when you are on the road and you go into a fellas home room you try and get just a little something in your favor. On paper this game is probably a coin flip in most peoples mind and I'm sure that Parker (he is JJ manager :wink:) figured it be best to get something slightly in their favor, and ya can't blame him there. Parker and JJ are great action and good guys to gamble with. I've seen Schmidt gamble and he is a gentleman and handles himself with class as well. After just coming from a poolroom where people look for every excuse not to play I do have to say I'm disappointed this game didn't go off. But like one poster stated pool is tough and sometimes it is just simply a matter of both sides not agreeing on some little thing that stops action. I'm guilty of it as I'm sure all people who gamble at pool are. I'd say that both sides will probably sit back in a day or two and think..."damn, we let one get away there." Oh well...hope to see this road crew at Derby as I'm sure they will be pumped to the gills and looking for some games. Good luck to all parties involved going forward! :thumbup:
 
All of Derby's one pocket matches are on Diamonds with 4.5" pockets with new cloth. It sounds like this table would play tougher than those. I have seen many great one pocket matches on Diamonds and it isn't just a shootout. The US Open one pocket is also played on Diamonds and isn't just a shootout.

When you seen one pocket played on a 4" or smaller pocket it ruins the game, if pro pool players can no longer shoot at their hole on tough shots the game gets boring.

If J.J. beat John with 9 to 8 and he is offering to play him even on the Diamond I think J.J. missed a big opportunity to make a score. I know I think J.J. would be a favorite against John on a 4.5" Diamond.

I couldn't agree more with what you are saying here John. Playing one pocket (or 8, 9 or 10 ball) on a table with super shut down pockets takes most of the fun out of the game and is not much fun to sweat. The new blue label 4-1/2" Diamond is a great overall standard, IMO.

Martin
 
no game or sport has more than one target and pool should be no different

I couldn't agree more with what you are saying here John. Playing one pocket (or 8, 9 or 10 ball) on a table with super shut down pockets takes most of the fun out of the game and is not much fun to sweat. The new blue label 4-1/2" Diamond is a great overall standard, IMO.

Martin

We certainly don't speak for all champion players, however I probably do for the majority. 4.5 inch pockets are just too big for champion level players. We want you to actually hit the pocket to beat us, not dribble them in down the rail with "pocket speed." 4-4.25 seems to be the right size provided the cloth is broke in and not to slick (so the balls can't slide in).

I personally believe 4.25 inch pockets on a 5/10' table is the greatest test to see who the best player is. If someone beats you under these conditions, you just shake his hand because you know he was the best player. To beat him you will have to work on your game, not just hope to get the "rolls" next time.

Also, any game MUST be played "CALL POCKET" - no game or sport has more than one target and pool should be no different. Imagine more than one basketball rim or even two golf holes where a player misses his putt and it then goes in hole #2....how "hokey" would that be?

Pool is the same and to preserve and respect and challenge of the game it MUST be played "CALL POCKET," whether it's eight-ball, nine-ball, or 10-ball. 'The Game is the Teacher'
 
i agree

We certainly don't speak for all champion players, however I probably do for the majority. 4.5 inch pockets are just too big for champion level players. We want you to actually hit the pocket to beat us, not dribble them in down the rail with "pocket speed." 4-4.25 seems to be the right size provided the cloth is broke in and not to slick (so the balls can't slide in).

I personally believe 4.25 inch pockets on a 5/10' table is the greatest test to see who the best player is. If someone beats you under these conditions, you just shake his hand because you know he was the best player. To beat him you will have to work on your game, not just hope to get the "rolls" next time.

Also, any game MUST be played "CALL POCKET" - no game or sport has more than one target and pool should be no different. Imagine more than one basketball rim or even two golf holes where a player misses his putt and it then goes in hole #2....how "hokey" would that be?

Pool is the same and to preserve and respect and challenge of the game it MUST be played "CALL POCKET," whether it's eight-ball, nine-ball, or 10-ball. 'The Game is the Teacher'
i totally agree with everything u just said
 
We certainly don't speak for all champion players, however I probably do for the majority. 4.5 inch pockets are just too big for champion level players. We want you to actually hit the pocket to beat us, not dribble them in down the rail with "pocket speed." 4-4.25 seems to be the right size provided the cloth is broke in and not to slick (so the balls can't slide in).

I personally believe 4.25 inch pockets on a 5/10' table is the greatest test to see who the best player is. If someone beats you under these conditions, you just shake his hand because you know he was the best player. To beat him you will have to work on your game, not just hope to get the "rolls" next time.

Also, any game MUST be played "CALL POCKET" - no game or sport has more than one target and pool should be no different. Imagine more than one basketball rim or even two golf holes where a player misses his putt and it then goes in hole #2....how "hokey" would that be?

Pool is the same and to preserve and respect and challenge of the game it MUST be played "CALL POCKET," whether it's eight-ball, nine-ball, or 10-ball. 'The Game is the Teacher'

CJ:

I'm so GLAD to see someone of your caliber, visibility, and credibility to say this -- all of it. But man, are you ever going to get beat-up about this from the Texas Express crowd!

We got yo' back, tho,
-Sean
 
I agree 100% with what CJ said as well...I hate slopping a ball in and ALWAYS apologize if I do. I hate it just the same when someone else slops balls in on me and especially when the momentum/rolls in the match is in their favor any way, it's even more brutal!

Gary
 
One Pocket Match

IMO John Schmidt will bury J.J. and J.J. is scared to play him. I watched John play many times and he is still improving. He will out shoot him and out move him.I watched him destroy Chris G. John is the best all around player in the World.
 
IMO John Schmidt will bury J.J. and J.J. is scared to play him. I watched John play many times and he is still improving. He will out shoot him and out move him.I watched him destroy Chris G. John is the best all around player in the World.

Schmitty is one of the BEST players in the world when he is playing regular. He is probably more of a "natural talent" than most of the other players and seems to like to spread his interests around (bikes, construction, golf etc)

Call me sick, call me stupid, call me a glutton for punishment, I don't care; but I'd love to see Danny Harriman and John Schmidt play an all around of Straight Pool, Banks, One Pocket and Ten Ball. :D
 
IMO John Schmidt will bury J.J. and J.J. is scared to play him. I watched John play many times and he is still improving. He will out shoot him and out move him.I watched him destroy Chris G. John is the best all around player in the World.

lmao.
Im sure Alex would like an all around game
 
IMO John Schmidt will bury J.J. and J.J. is scared to play him. I watched John play many times and he is still improving. He will out shoot him and out move him.I watched him destroy Chris G. John is the best all around player in the World.

i flattered but i dont think i would bury jj,and i dont think im the best all around player in the world .especially as little as i play. the fact that it would be hard to quickly name many players if any that would have to rob me i guess means im doin ok.
i dont want to play alex all around but if i had to he would have to try real real hard i would like to think.jj too
 
i flattered but i dont think i would bury jj,and i dont think im the best all around player in the world .especially as little as i play. the fact that it would be hard to quickly name many players if any that would have to rob me i guess means im doin ok.
i dont want to play alex all around but if i had to he would have to try real real hard i would like to think.jj too

Great response sir, best to you and GL at derby.
 
I like call pocket as well CJ, but pool rooms are businesses. Pro caliber players play on the table a small fraction of the time (and often play for free). When you make the playing conditons too difficult the regular patrons don't enjoy it as much and will go elsewhere if given an option. 4-1/4" would be an excellent standard and I'd love to see more rooms with tables with that pocket size. When you go below 4" it just isn't much fun with any game IMO. My hat is off to Diamond for making an effort to standardize a pocket size. Many of the pool rooms of long ago had 4-3/4 to 5" pocket Gold Crowns.

Martin



We certainly don't speak for all champion players, however I probably do for the majority. 4.5 inch pockets are just too big for champion level players. We want you to actually hit the pocket to beat us, not dribble them in down the rail with "pocket speed." 4-4.25 seems to be the right size provided the cloth is broke in and not to slick (so the balls can't slide in).

I personally believe 4.25 inch pockets on a 5/10' table is the greatest test to see who the best player is. If someone beats you under these conditions, you just shake his hand because you know he was the best player. To beat him you will have to work on your game, not just hope to get the "rolls" next time.

Also, any game MUST be played "CALL POCKET" - no game or sport has more than one target and pool should be no different. Imagine more than one basketball rim or even two golf holes where a player misses his putt and it then goes in hole #2....how "hokey" would that be?

Pool is the same and to preserve and respect and challenge of the game it MUST be played "CALL POCKET," whether it's eight-ball, nine-ball, or 10-ball. 'The Game is the Teacher'
 
We certainly don't speak for all champion players, however I probably do for the majority. 4.5 inch pockets are just too big for champion level players. We want you to actually hit the pocket to beat us, not dribble them in down the rail with "pocket speed." 4-4.25 seems to be the right size provided the cloth is broke in and not to slick (so the balls can't slide in).

I personally believe 4.25 inch pockets on a 5/10' table is the greatest test to see who the best player is. If someone beats you under these conditions, you just shake his hand because you know he was the best player. To beat him you will have to work on your game, not just hope to get the "rolls" next time.

Also, any game MUST be played "CALL POCKET" - no game or sport has more than one target and pool should be no different. Imagine more than one basketball rim or even two golf holes where a player misses his putt and it then goes in hole #2....how "hokey" would that be?

Pool is the same and to preserve and respect and challenge of the game it MUST be played "CALL POCKET," whether it's eight-ball, nine-ball, or 10-ball. 'The Game is the Teacher'

If that's the case, would you say that after TAR 20, Earl is superior to Shane?
 
If that's the case, would you say that after TAR 20, Earl is superior to Shane?

I wouldn't say that. I think Earl understood how to play the table better and was working with it...watch how well he used his english. Shane looked like he was fighting and force stroking so many shots.

Shane can do anything in billiards if he wants to, look at how well he places in OnePocket, StraightPool and Bank competitions when he never even plays the games :D

If he put that time into a 10' table and played Earl again, it'd be hard to go with Earl and feel like you were picking a sure winner.
 
Shane hasn't exactly had much success on any 10 footer....not just the gaffed one in Youngstown playing Earl.
 
I will take CJ's side in this. The real players love tight pockets because they feel that it truly distinguishes an A player from a true professional. I've watched shortstops take an easy ghost game on a tight pocket table and get robbed. 4 or 4.25 pockets on a nice playing 9 footer is a real test of skill and isn't just a break contest which is what bar box has become.

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