Ultimate 10-Ball Adds More Money

Jerry Forsyth

Jerry Forsyth

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Badi Nazhat has just increased the prize fund in the Ultimate 10 Ball WPA Men's Ranking event at Tunica to $75,000 in added money in order to raise the status of the event to a Tier 2 WPA Ranking Event. Now players from around the world who travel to Tunica June 16-20 will be playing both for more money and more prestige.
 
UTBC - added money increased

That is a huge statement.
I certainly hope the pool world takes notice.

I support what Badi is trying to do.

Mark Griffin
CSI
 
This is great news. I am dying here, can't go this year and want to. Radiology school is the same time as ultimate 10 ball. All the best to those that can attend.


I meet the promoter years ago and played in the last event. He is top notch and professional. He is bringing class to the sport and has some serious international backers.

The players really need to SHOW they can adhere to the utmost standards of Sportsmanship!!! Financially his backers are cool as long as the players do not do anything to embrace them and their cultural believes.

With that said, have a good show. I encourage all that can attend to please support this promoter and help spread the word at your local league.

Kd


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I am getting calls from players who do not seem to know where or when this tournament is being held.

http://www.ultimate10ball.com

The Harrahs's Hotel and Casino
Tunica, Mississippi.
June 16-20
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They probably already know, but a lot of players are in New Orleans area right now, at least from what I hear through the grapevine. I'm sure they will be coming, as it's a hop, skip, and a jump to get to Tunica.

Wish they had posters or flyers of this event that could disseminate to the pool rooms. That would be one way of spreading the news.

Word of mouth in pool seems to continue to be the most frequently used way to inform others of what's going on these days. Some still do not use the Internet, so they are exempt from AzBilliards and other pool-related sites giving out helpful information.
 
Can I say that there should be a HUGE central location with all the tournament information CLEARLY stated.

Yes I know AZB maintains a list but when I clicked on this I got a blank page http://www.azbilliards.com/worldcalendar/index.php - probably my computer but then again how would I know?

And trhe Ultimate 10 Ball is not listed here at all http://www.azbilliards.com/2000tourmain.php?tournum=99

Before anyone gets defensive I realize it's not Mike's JOB to keep up with all the events but somehow there needs to be a central list of ALL events on all levels that is accurate and up-to-date

Maybe a simple web form that promoters can fill out and web page that auto updates and puts the entries into the proper category. This is not that hard to do, I know it from our own web development. Put the onus back on the promoters to add their events and tour stops to the central calendar.

Beyond that EVERY promoter should make it SUPER EASY for people to sign up and pay through the web. And there should be tiers of payment which start at the lowest amount the farthest out and get progressively more expensive the closer it gets to the event. This is incentive for players to save money on entries and makes the management much easier for the promoter.

Lastly, I feel that for every large event there should be qualifiers happening all over the world where the best players play it out for spots. This guarantees that a certain number of spots WILL be filled and it increases the participation of players leading up to the event. I feel that there should be an extra prize awarded to the room that send in a winning player. This program would act as a farm system to gather the best local and regional players as well as building a fan base from all those spots as the locals support their players.

In every major sport they pull the participants at the top from a solid and W I D E base of players trying to be the best. Only in pool do we have NO such system of organized competition that leads to the top. NONE. And we wonder why pool is broken.

Broken to the point that the games best and most knowledgeable people are on message boards practically begging people to sign up for events. This isn't how it should be. Players should be competing for spots and earning their way in. There should never even be a question as to whether an event will fill up or not.

Does ANYONE ever talk about whether the US Open in Tennis will fill up? Or in Golf? Really this is why pool is dysfunctional, no information and no broad base of support.
 
Some sections of our site (databases) are down for the next few days and cannot be loaded. And that is why JB cannot find the location in those databases.

We have, however, spread the URL of the UTBC all over the place. Main page, forums, in private emails to players, everywhere we can.

It is: www.ultimate10ball.com

All info is there including rules, dress code, and registration form.
 
I have mentioned this before, but I guess this is a good time to mention it again. :smile:

It would be fantastic if somebody would take the initiative to create a pool event calendar *and* -- this is a very important "and" -- keep it up to date. In other words, it would be helpful if there was one calender that allowed either one person to post events and links to events on a calendar or, in the alternative, allow members to post events on the calendar.

Here on this forum software, up at the top, we have a "Calendar" tab or button. It is for birthdays. Instead of birthdays, would it not be worthy of consideration to allow this section to be a calendar for tournaments, regional tour events, world championships, et cetera, to be posted?

Even the weekly $10-entry-fee tournaments could be added. I would imagine there could be something happening almost every day of the week.

A calendar of this caliber could be "the" one place that everyone would turn to, allowing them to see what's happening. Eventually, people would utilize this calendar more frequently if they knew of its existence. It would draw more traffic to this website, which I'm sure the sponsors would like in addition to the other amenities offered at AzBilliards website. Just a suggestion.

I don't know. Maybe a pool calender is worthy of having its own independent website. Pool industry members might feel something like this is worth advertising on, if the calendar became popular, receiving thousands of hits on a daily basis.

Hmm. Maybe this could be my ticket to retirement. Somebody better snatch this idea up quickly before I jump on it. :grin-square:
 
Quick question to derail but also bump the thread. If pool is a sport why do some tournaments have a dress code that forbids sport shoes?

Yes I know it's possible to get sneakers and sport shoes that look dressy enough to pass but it seems incongruous that we call it a sport and don't allow sports clothing.

Nice website, love the way it's set up and love the way the participants are listed on each side. Hardly seen any better than this one.
 
And if it is called a "Dress Code" why are they not made to all wear dresses? And if it is called 10 Ball why is there an 11th ball on the table to shoot with?

JB, are you kidding me? Sport shoes because it is called a sport? C'mon!
 
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And if it is called a "Dress Code" why are they not made to all wear dresses? And if it is called 10 Ball why is there an 11th ball on the table to shoot with?

JB, are you kidding me? Sport shoes because it is called a sport? C'mon!
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I am serious and I actually have a story to illustrate why.

My friend Ilona Bernhardt was in the finals of the Munich Masters back in the early 90s. She was told hours before the match that her shoes were not "dress" shoes and she would have to get acceptable ones. This being Germany at that time shoe stores were not open on Sunday. So she was forced to buy shoes from the hotel shop which in addition to being hugely expensive were also incredibly uncomfortable. Illona was a large woman and so being forced to wear new and ill-fitting shoes was especially hard on her. As a result she played well under her ability and lost.

So no, my question is serious and not intended to put anyone down. I consider pool to be a sport and any time I have played in a tournament requiring dress shows I have worn black tennis shoes and no one ever questioned them. I would never wear dress shoes to play a sport in.
 
The world of pool sometimes brings the 1960's show "Gilligan's Island" to mind. For those unaware of this show, it's premise was that a group of seven people on a cruise encounter a brutal storm and are washed to shore on an island not yet on anybody's map, and from which they cannot communicate with anybody. Stranded, they barely get by in a primitive lifestyle and on that rare occasion that a potential rescuer shows up to their island, a mistake is always made by one of the castaways that either obstructs or dissuades the rescuer from helping them.

The emergence of a Tier 2 WPA event and a US-record-setting amount of added money, with sponsorship chiefly from outside the indutry supplemented by a promoter so committed to his project that he's added some of his own money is a significant moment in pool.

I've met Badi Nazhat and he's a quality guy who loves our sport. Nobody knows whether Badi can, at least in part, help rescue pool, but if the men pros in pool fail to get behind his event, they're as dumb as the castaways on Gilligan's Island, and with that attitude are unlikely to get the financial rescue they so desperately need now or in the future.
 
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The world of pool sometimes brings the 1960's show "Gilligan's Island" to mind. For those unaware of this show, it's premise was that a group of seven people on a cruise encounter a brutal storm and are washed to shore on an island not yet on anybody's map, and from which they cannot communicate with anybody. Stranded, they barely get by in a primitive lifestyle and on that rare occasion that a potential rescuer shows up to their island, a mistake is always made by one of the castaways that either obstructs or dissuades the rescuer from helping them.

The emergence of a Tier 2 WPA event and a US-record-setting amount of added money, with sponsorship chiefly from outside the indutry supplemented by a promoter so committed to his project that he's added some of his own money is a significant moment in pool.

I've met Badi Nazhat and he's a quality guy who loves our sport. Nobody knows whether Badi can, at least in part, help rescue pool, but if the men pros in pool fail to get behind his event, they're as dumb as the castaways on Gilligan's Island, and with that attitude are unlikely to get the financial rescue they so desperately need now or in the future.
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Gilligan's Island is actually an excellent analogy to use when looking at today's pro pool world in the United States.

Earlier in this thread, I stated the importance of utilizing the Internet to disseminate pool news of happenings, yet when the IPT first came to the fore, the announcement of the application process was *only* disseminated via the Internet. Word of mouth came later, and those who were not computer savvy missed the IPT boat initially.

I truly believe a combination of Internet, word of mouth, and some other means of getting the message out there is sorely needed. I suggested a pool calendar, but that would be online.

If there was a mailing list of prominent pool rooms in the country, flyers should be sent to these places and posted for all to see. It would get people talking, like, "Hey, did you hear about that Ultimate 10-Ball Challenge in June? Maybe we should take a trip to Tunica. That sounds cool."

Sometimes people hear about events after the fact and wish they could have known about it beforehand. The Smokey 9-Ball Shootout comes to mind. By the time you hear about it, the roster is filled up, but the results? Well, good luck finding those. The organizers do not provide this information to the pool media outlets, for whatever reason.

In sum, I'm not sure what the answer is, whether it's Internet advertising, flyers, online calendar, word of mouth. In this regard, it is an area that I believe needs to be explored further.
 
I bet that even the most internet-allergic pro's have a cell phone.

If someone set up a database of those phone numbers, and sent them a text message, the word would get around pretty quickly.

Of course it would have to be set up with someone that folks would trust to not disseminate the numbers, only for text-blasts...

Just a thought for your fledgling business venture, JAM :p
 
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I've met Badi Nazhat and he's a quality guy who loves our sport. Nobody knows whether Badi can, at least in part, help rescue pool, but if the men pros in pool fail to get behind his event, they're as dumb as the castaways on Gilligan's Island, and with that attitude are unlikely to get the financial rescue they so desperately need now or in the future.
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AMEN BROTHER!!!

KD
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