Mosconi Cup USA Team

Don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, but for anyone thinking about going... my wife and I were chatting at dinner tonight about attending the MC this year -- you know: the team looks strong, fly out to Vegas, see some friends, watch the matches, a few shows, eat well, gamble a bit, have a few yucks.

Soooo, I go to look at tickets and it turns out they've booked the MC for Monday through Thursday... WTFIWT?!

Needless to say we shan't be flying out.

Lou Figueroa

FYI, Lou, I bought my Mosconi Cup tickets online on Ticketmaster. I believe they still have tickets for sale.
 
Once upon a time a team like this would be a big favorite. No more! No matter who the fifth man is, they are massive underdogs. And folks that's reality!
P.S. I like Corey for the last spot. He really has matured a lot in the last year as a player.
 
FYI, Lou, I bought my Mosconi Cup tickets online on Ticketmaster. I believe they still have tickets for sale.

I think he's saying it's too bad it's not on a weekend like Fri-Sun. That was the first thing I noticed though I can probably make it during the week.
 
Hatch played poorly in last year's Mosconi Cup, not just in one match. He's a great player, but does not play as well as Corey Deuel nor does he have as much Mosconi Cup experience as Deuel. I wish Dennis well, but how he was selected over Deuel is a total mystery to me. Nonetheless, I hope that, through his performance, he'll make me look silly for having posted this.

For once I have to disagree. Dennis WON the Cup for Team USA in 2009 with his fiery play. He has the game and the temperament to help Team USA pull off a big upset. That's my humble opinion for what it's worth. :smile:
 
Hatch played poorly in last year's Mosconi Cup, not just in one match. He's a great player, but does not play as well as Corey Deuel nor does he have as much Mosconi Cup experience as Deuel. I wish Dennis well, but how he was selected over Deuel is a total mystery to me. Nonetheless, I hope that, through his performance, he'll make me look silly for having posted this.

All ABP players so far. Earl is not in the ABP, but I think he will be the 5th pick. Johnnyt

PS: Corey left the ABP I believe.
 
FYI, Lou, I bought my Mosconi Cup tickets online on Ticketmaster. I believe they still have tickets for sale.


ah, yah, Stu. But even through Ticket Master it is still a Monday through Thursday event. Some of us would like an event that ties into the weekend somehow.

Lou Figueroa
 
I think he's saying it's too bad it's not on a weekend like Fri-Sun. That was the first thing I noticed though I can probably make it during the week.


Exactly. My wife and I have been to a couple (don't ask me why, but she loves watching the MC) and it previously ran into at least into Friday and/or Saturday.

Lou Figueroa
 
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I think Earl is playing better 9 and 10 ball than Corey Deuel is right now. Still, I think Corey should have been chosen over Hatch. Deuel and Earl both belong on the MC. The other 3 choices are great.
 
For once I have to disagree. Dennis WON the Cup for Team USA in 2009 with his fiery play. He has the game and the temperament to help Team USA pull off a big upset. That's my humble opinion for what it's worth. :smile:

I only referred to his play last year, Jay. He's had two pretty mediocre years in a row in pro competition and cannot logically be viewed as the player he was up to 2011.

Yes, he was the undeniable star of the 2009 Mosconi Cup, but that was then and the 2013 team should be based on who is playing well now. This team doesn't need additional inspiration or leadership, for captain Johnny Archer, in the wake of his 6-0 performance of a year ago, will offer as much of that as needed --- this team needs great players, and Dennis is not playing very well right now and hasn't won an important title in a few years.
 
Yes, he was the undeniable star of the 2009 Mosconi Cup, but that was then and the 2013 team should be based on who is playing well now.

Dennis in 2009 was a Mosconi Cup rookie and played the role of "fiery unknown underdog" in the event with few expectations and tons of opportunity to shine.

After that fairy tale start he went into the following years with that early success being more of a burden and something that he now must live up to then anything that he draws any positive thoughts from. He has put himself under exceptional amounts of pressure in the event ever since and not handled it at all well, shooting some of the worst pool ever seen from a professional in a major event on many occasions in the MC.

On top of all that he has been woefully inactive in pool, the only things he has won have been piddly little regional events with amature and retired pro fields. He avoids playing fields that have anyone like Team Europe possess for the most part, and the reward for that is he gets a guarenteed second place payday bigger then 1st place in almost any event he even plays in most of the year? That ain't right.

If Earl does not make the team the whole Mosconi Cup proves to be nothing more then a huge joke. Who else is there? We going to get to see Mike Dechaine pee his britches again this year on international TV?

At least Corey Deuel can actually keep his composure and play under pressure and under the lights. He has played more top level pro events in his life then Dechaine and Hatch combined, regardless of how active he is now (which is still one hell of alot more active then Hatch).
 
Dennis in 2009 was a Mosconi Cup rookie and played the role of "fiery unknown underdog" in the event with few expectations and tons of opportunity to shine.

After that fairy tale start he went into the following years with that early success being more of a burden and something that he now must live up to then anything that he draws any positive thoughts from. He has put himself under exceptional amounts of pressure in the event ever since and not handled it at all well, shooting some of the worst pool ever seen from a professional in a major event on many occasions in the MC.

On top of all that he has been woefully inactive in pool, the only things he has won have been piddly little regional events with amature and retired pro fields. He avoids playing fields that have anyone like Team Europe possess for the most part, and the reward for that is he gets a guarenteed second place payday bigger then 1st place in almost any event he even plays in most of the year? That ain't right.

If Earl does not make the team the whole Mosconi Cup proves to be nothing more then a huge joke. Who else is there? We going to get to see Mike Dechaine pee his britches again this year on international TV?

At least Corey Deuel can actually keep his composure and play under pressure and under the lights. He has played more top level pro events in his life then Dechaine and Hatch combined, regardless of how active he is now (which is still one hell of alot more active then Hatch).

Totally agree!

--Jeff
 
Once upon a time a team like this would be a big favorite. No more! No matter who the fifth man is, they are massive underdogs. And folks that's reality!
P.S. I like Corey for the last spot. He really has matured a lot in the last year as a player.

Why exactly do you think they are massive underdogs? Who is on team Europe?

In terms of the USA-

Shane can obviously play with anybody in the world, Archer played great last year, Morris has been playing well all year long, Hatch is a possible weak link- true, Earl or Corey (I am assuming it will be one of those two) have been playing well in recent months- especially Earl. Of course they could lose, but I don't think they're massive underdogs.
 
They HATE HIM. I'm telling you all, don't do it.

No they don't. where did you ever get that from. They like to try and get under his skin because they like to see Earl go on tilt.

You want to talk about professional. Well, its not professional behavior from the fans to try and rattle a players cage. Leave Earl be and he will be okay.

It might be perfectly acceptable to do it at a wrestling match but this is professional pool. Anyone that has to resort to that type of tactic to help their side to win should be turfed from the venue.

I agree tho, Corey Duel is also a perfect choice for the team.

What would be the point of having Big Head Todd on the team again.
 
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ah, yah, Stu. But even through Ticket Master it is still a Monday through Thursday event. Some of us would like an event that ties into the weekend somehow.

Lou Figueroa

Last year's ratings have been excellent during the week for Sky, as it is a time when the MC isn't in conflict with either Snooker, Darts, or much bigger sports such as soccer on the week-end.

The MC played in the week is better for the value of the program, but it makes it harder for spectators to attend for sure. But since it is played in the morning/afternoon to be live in the UK at night, you could fly in a couple of days with just one hotel night and leave late on the second day...

I hope to see you there :)
 
Amazing how people judge the caliber of play based on a player winning tin cups in a short- race format. What, are you kidding me?

I could elaborate on faults/defects with all five choices for the members of Team USA, but I can also illustrate their strong points.

People who are disappointed that Corey did not get chosen in Dennis' place have written statements that are meant to demean Dennis Hatch. I won't detail his accomplishments in his lifetime, but he is much more than a "regional tour champ." In fact, recently, he has risen to the top of the charts in every tournament he has competed in.

In times past, Dennis had a relationship which sometimes prevented him from concentrating on pool as much as he could. Affairs of the heart can be difficult. He also was working a full-time job while in this relationship. The relationship is over, and so is the job. He has devoted himself to playing full-time within the past several months.

Say what you want about him because your precious Corey was not chosen, but I know the truth. I could write some untoward things about Corey Deuel, in defense of Dennis Hatch, but for what purpose? As stated earlier, I know faults of every single player mentioned. If I was to state them in this thread, it would be shocking.

Why not celebrate the players selected and support Team USA? That is what I would like to do, but not in America. American professional pool sucks because its own culture doesn't accept them, ripps them apart at every turn, and considers the pro player scum of the earth. Some Americans have switched camps and continue to sing praises about European players while, again, stepping on American players at every turn.

You want to know what's wrong with American professional pooll? Read this thread.:frown:
 
Amazing how people judge the caliber of play based on a player winning tin cups in a short- race format. What, are you kidding me?

Eh? When the competition in question is (as you would describe it) a "tin cup in a short-race format", then of course people are going to use a player's level of success at "winning tin cups in a short- race format" to judge their quality and appropriateness for it. That's just really obvious.
 
Eh? When the competition in question is (as you would describe it) a "tin cup in a short-race format", then of course people are going to use a player's level of success at "winning tin cups in a short- race format" to judge their quality and appropriateness for it. That's just really obvious.

This is a team event, and some players shoot better playing partners than solo at times. IOW, it is a team effort.

I was discussing this event last night with my other half, and he said he'd much rather have Dennis as his partner and on his team than some of the other four players. Dennis goes out of his way shoot well when on a team or play partners. He thrives on winning for the sake of his partners and teammages. It's a little extra incentive for him.

Some people don't shoot well in a team environment or partners. Dennis is not one of those.
 
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