if you'd been here, then everyone would know.
If It's True $ Was Held Back From MC
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if you'd been here, then everyone would know.
Oh sweet another thread about secret pool biz where I don't understand what half of the posters are even talking about.
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What, you guys spent 4 K and I didn't even get a Cheesy Vegas key ring.
Well, I'm going to Cuba soon and just for that, I'm keeping all the Cohibas and Communists to myself.
Well, I'm going to Cuba soon and just for that, I'm keeping all the Cohibas and Communists to myself.
hey - i got you & Kevin your damn GLOVES. now you'll never know how i was going to present them....
i should have split, then i'd only be out $2K.
or if i had bet, then i'd be up.
I dunno if I'd say the public has a right to know,
but it makes no sense to keep it private.
Punitive fines are a routine part of most major sports.
And AFAIK they are always made public.
It would look strange and shady for them to sneak it under the radar.
Which you can't realistically do anyway. The fined players would break the news.
Even if there's some confidentiality clause in something they signed,
this sort of thing would 'somehow' get out.
Anyway, why would they hide it? It's nothing Matchroom should be ashamed of.
It shows they care and are committed to keeping the event classy and high quality.
And part of the reason for the fine is to discourage future infractions.
By fining one guy in secret you maybe stop one guy from misbehaving.
By mounting his head on a pike for the whole world to see, you keep everyone in line.
but it makes no sense to keep it private.
Punitive fines are a routine part of most major sports.
And AFAIK they are always made public.
It would look strange and shady for them to sneak it under the radar.
Which you can't realistically do anyway. The fined players would break the news.
Even if there's some confidentiality clause in something they signed,
this sort of thing would 'somehow' get out.
Anyway, why would they hide it? It's nothing Matchroom should be ashamed of.
It shows they care and are committed to keeping the event classy and high quality.
And part of the reason for the fine is to discourage future infractions.
By fining one guy in secret you maybe stop one guy from misbehaving.
By mounting his head on a pike for the whole world to see, you keep everyone in line.
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Quote of the Day/Month/Mosconi!
sometimes you have to break it DOWN, to re-build it UP.
(and have a whip in your back pocket....)
Different organizations have different policies regarding fines. The PGA Tour for example has a strict policy of not announcing any fines or punishment publicly or even what specifically their conduct rules and penalties are.
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On the other hand fines for infractions and rule breaking in other sports such as golf, tennis, and snooker are clearly stated and the information is made public. This is done to ensure transparency in the rulings of the sport and presserve a sense of standards and guidelines that the sport holds itself to.
Not surprising that pool keeps it all under the table andthe supporters of the pool world accept it blindly. Terribly sad, but not surprising. Pool hss never been held to the standards of larger and more respected sports, and that has "not" been a good thing for pool.
Players Pay
Did not all ten players get 10K to perform in this show?
Oh, I mean play in this event.
Did not all ten players get 10K to perform in this show?
Oh, I mean play in this event.
The winners got 20K and the losers got 10K.
Fines are not publicized on the PGA tour
Well, assuming that players did get fined, my guess as to who would be Boyes (disrespect at the end of his match with Earl), Earl (disrespect in general), Hatch and Morris (repeatedly using foul language which is disrespectful to the game and the viewers).
I could be way off base, or dead on the money.
As to whether or not the "secret" about it should be made public, I vote yes. I vote yes because then, just maybe, others will take notice and start acting a little more professional. This sport has a bad name already, time to publicly clean it up, or at least show that an effort is being made. Not keep it secret so no one notices.
I could be way off base, or dead on the money.
As to whether or not the "secret" about it should be made public, I vote yes. I vote yes because then, just maybe, others will take notice and start acting a little more professional. This sport has a bad name already, time to publicly clean it up, or at least show that an effort is being made. Not keep it secret so no one notices.
It's a game, not a sport.
And pool in America is fine, it's the same as it's been for 20 years, and will be the same the next 20 years. If you like the game enjoy it, but YOU are not going to change it.
And what makes you think pool is any better in Europe? Or the Philippines? It's not, if it was they would not be here half the year. Or in some cases here permanently.
And pool in America is fine, it's the same as it's been for 20 years, and will be the same the next 20 years. If you like the game enjoy it, but YOU are not going to change it.
And what makes you think pool is any better in Europe? Or the Philippines? It's not, if it was they would not be here half the year. Or in some cases here permanently.
This is in error. Fifteen years ago, the PBT was a 16 event tour and every event had $100,000 added.
In 2013, we had the Derby City 9-ball, the Derby City banks, the Derby City one pocket, the Derby City 10-ball, the Southern Classic 9-ball, the Southern Classic banks, the Southern Classic one pocket, the Southern Classic 10-ball, the Ultimate 10-ball, the US Open 9-ball, the US Open 10-ball, the US Open 1-pocket and the US Open 8-ball. Yes, we had thirteen high profile events. In 2014, just five of these thirteen events remain on the American pool calendar.
Pool in America isn't like it used to be and it's not even like it was a year ago. The pro scene is crumbling and poolrooms are closing right and left.
Please. Please. Please.
If people want to play for a living they are going to have to take risks, gamble, get in the grease or get a job. Pro players or whatever they call themselves are owed nothing, but they feel they are. It's always been that way. No tour is going to change that.
Pool is as big as ever in America. It's a game, period, not a sport. It is played by MANY amateurs every night of the week, leagues thrive. These people are what makes pool businesses like OB, TIGER, PREDATOR, MEUCCI, MCDERMOTT, OZONE, POOLDAWG, MUELLERS, MEZZ, CUETEC, APA,BCA,VALLEY,TAP, ETC. Survive.
The PROS do NOTHING to keep pool or these companies alive. They do not buy products from these companies. So why should anyone really care if they have events. Are they trying to round up events on their own?
Are they out promoting their own selves to make money?
Plain and simple, they want handouts. I think that's over and now they are lost.
There's a few pros that have put their cash to good use, good for them, they deserve what they work for.
If people want to play for a living they are going to have to take risks, gamble, get in the grease or get a job. Pro players or whatever they call themselves are owed nothing, but they feel they are. It's always been that way. No tour is going to change that.
Pool is as big as ever in America. It's a game, period, not a sport. It is played by MANY amateurs every night of the week, leagues thrive. These people are what makes pool businesses like OB, TIGER, PREDATOR, MEUCCI, MCDERMOTT, OZONE, POOLDAWG, MUELLERS, MEZZ, CUETEC, APA,BCA,VALLEY,TAP, ETC. Survive.
The PROS do NOTHING to keep pool or these companies alive. They do not buy products from these companies. So why should anyone really care if they have events. Are they trying to round up events on their own?
Are they out promoting their own selves to make money?
Plain and simple, they want handouts. I think that's over and now they are lost.
There's a few pros that have put their cash to good use, good for them, they deserve what they work for.
Thanks for clarifying your post. There is much truth in your observation that amateur pool IS POOL in America. I misinterpreted your last post and for that I apologize.
sorry to derail, JT - but really, i'm not....
SEE THIS QUOTE? read it again. this is NOT about POOL. it's about the ECONOMY. for the past 6 YEARS.
and Wilson can ban me. but if yáll would get your heads out of your pool-asses, and take a look around....
....like Barry was asking for input @ Mosconi/US on the Veranda @ Day 3....
you might just realize, that the problem is - US!!!!
HOW MUCH DO YOU DROP WEEKLY FOR POOL?
- since last OCT, i went from $50/day (and our tbl time is comped), to $50/wk
- my pool hall (which used to be members only) is CH 11
- the replacement pool hall charges $8/hr tbl time & 50% more for drinks & 8 miles further drive
- i've done the past 2 Mosconi's @ $4K/ea. been there - done that.
- i've done the past 2 Opens @ VA Bch & LAS @ $2K-$4K each. been there - done that.
- if we win AM Rotation #2 @ DCC, we'll break even (not that we'll show for the finals)
not cost-effective. per the CONSUMER. make it cost-effective?
follow the $$$$$$$....