Congrats to our Own OMGWTF 2nd Place US Amateur

I am just wondering if you would feel the same way if she had won the tournament and didn't want to have her picture taken or be involved in any kind of ceremony. Now if she would participate only if she had won I see what she did as bad sportsmanship personally.

Yes, I would. I can only speak for myself here and am not trying to put words in her mouth. Personally, I hate having my picture taken or being the center of any kind of attention or ceremony. I don't compete so I can have my picture taken and everyone know that I won and have people make any kind of deal out of it. I know that I won and that's all that's important.

Having said that, unlike OMGWTF, I would kowtow to the pressure and pose for stupid pictures, all the while hating the people who pressured me to do it.

I think the reason people make such a big deal out of ceremonies and making a to-do about things is because they want or need that recognition. The problem is that they don't understand or accept that other people don't.

To be painfully clear here... I would love to win a big tournament and then be able to quietly sneak out the back door without going through any kind of ceremony. I'm not disrespecting the tournament, just trying to get through life the way I want to live it... with very little notoriety.
 
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Yes, I would. I can only speak for myself here and am not trying to put words in her mouth. Personally, I hate having my picture taken or being the center of any kind of attention or ceremony. I don't compete so I can have my picture taken and everyone know that I won and have people make any kind of deal out of it. I know that I won and that's all that's important.

Having said that, unlike OMGWTF, I would kowtow to the pressure and pose for stupid pictures, all the while hating the people who pressured me to do it.

I think the reason people make such a big deal out of ceremonies and making a to-do about things is because they want or need that recognition. The problem is that they don't understand or accept that other people don't.

To be painfully clear here... I would love to win a big tournament and then be able to quietly sneak out the back door without going through any kind of ceremony. I'm not disrespecting the tournament, just trying to get through life the way I want to live it... with very little notoriety.

Imagine if they required to make an acceptance speech.:)

http://massiveunderstatement.com/
 
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Imagine if they required to to make an acceptance speech.:)

http://massiveunderstatement.com/

I'd like to thank the Academy for bestowing upon me this prestigious honor, the Houston Astros and Bad News Bears for showing us that you don't need talent to play at the Astrodome, and Kermit the Frog... *snif* we did it, Kermit... ♫♪♫♪♫♪ Life's like a movie, write your own ending, Keep believing, keep pretending. We've done just what we set out to do. Thanks to the lovers, the dreamers, and you. ♫♪♫♪♫♪
 
for the OMGWTF v RHEA match, to satisfy everyone, we will have a hair dildo trophy (credit to LAMas) & the only picture required will be of CTwatty holding it.
 
What I hear you saying is that she needs to care about you and your feelings while you completely ignore her and her feelings. I'm going to let you in on a little secret... some people just don't like getting their picture taken or being involved in any sort of ceremony. By trying to pressure them to participate or turning around and calling that person names (I don't think you have, but others certainly have) when they don't is much more disrespectful than letting the person politely bow-out.

Nope, that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is she needs to learn how to politely bow out. That's all.
 
for the OMGWTF v RHEA match, to satisfy everyone, we will have a hair dildo trophy (credit to LAMas) & the only picture required will be of CTwatty holding it.


Here is the crown for the winner. Amy doesn't need it anymore.
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Well done Melinda. One of the few AZB members I met in real life in Vegas 2007 and later saw her in a couple of challenge matches online... tons of grit and dedication... and intelligence and attitude. :)
 
Why do you get to set the rules for politeness?

Maybe the polite thing for *you* to do is to let other people decide for themselves if they want the attention.

I'm not setting rules for politeness, just contending that her behavior doesn't fall under whatever the rules for politeness are. Are you contending that it does?

I've been present to witness the behavior first-hand and I can tell you I found it inconsiderate and offensive, especially from someone who is so nice when she's winning. And there was zero "attention" involved when I witnessed it (no photo, no ceremony, no announcement, nothing), so it's not really about not wanting attention. If she really doesn't want attention, she's not doing a very good job of not getting it. She would get way less attention by just accepting the runner-up award, smiling for the camera, and walking out. She had to know APA already had photographs of her, which would make it onto their website and into their magazine. When she signed the entry form she consented to being photographed, so even if she didn't want the attention, she agreed to accept it.

Like I said before, she has the ability to change her behavior or at least take steps to make it less offensive to others. For example, before the final match she could approach a tournament official and explain what might happen and why. Whether it's a nervous reaction to the pressure of the finals or simply not being well-equipped to accept losing, let them know what to expect. That's it, done. Now the tournament officials have an opportunity to be considerate of her feelings when it's over, instead of feeling like they've just been slapped in the face by a poor loser. They can just let her leave, and ship the doorsto - er, runner-up award to her, and she can do with it as she so desires.
 
I'm not setting rules for politeness, just contending that her behavior doesn't fall under whatever the rules for politeness are. Are you contending that it does?

I've been present to witness the behavior first-hand and I can tell you I found it inconsiderate and offensive, especially from someone who is so nice when she's winning. And there was zero "attention" involved when I witnessed it (no photo, no ceremony, no announcement, nothing), so it's not really about not wanting attention. If she really doesn't want attention, she's not doing a very good job of not getting it. She would get way less attention by just accepting the runner-up award, smiling for the camera, and walking out. She had to know APA already had photographs of her, which would make it onto their website and into their magazine. When she signed the entry form she consented to being photographed, so even if she didn't want the attention, she agreed to accept it.

Like I said before, she has the ability to change her behavior or at least take steps to make it less offensive to others. For example, before the final match she could approach a tournament official and explain what might happen and why. Whether it's a nervous reaction to the pressure of the finals or simply not being well-equipped to accept losing, let them know what to expect. That's it, done. Now the tournament officials have an opportunity to be considerate of her feelings when it's over, instead of feeling like they've just been slapped in the face by a poor loser. They can just let her leave, and ship the doorsto - er, runner-up award to her, and she can do with it as she so desires.
I think it's more her doing what she wants in any given situation and not giving a shit what anyone else thinks... JMO...

Damn shame so many people are butt-hurt on something that doesnt have any effect on them at all LOL.
 
I think it's more her doing what she wants in any given situation and not giving a shit what anyone else thinks... JMO...

Damn shame so many people are butt-hurt on something that doesnt have any effect on them at all LOL.

What I hear you saying is that it's ok to be impolite or offensive as long as you don't give a shit that people think you're impolite or offensive. If that's the case it shouldn't be a shame at all (to you or to anyone else who shares that line of thinking) that someone finds the behavior offensive.
 
I'm not setting rules for politeness, just contending that her behavior doesn't fall under whatever the rules for politeness are. Are you contending that it does?

I've been present to witness the behavior first-hand and I can tell you I found it inconsiderate and offensive, especially from someone who is so nice when she's winning. And there was zero "attention" involved when I witnessed it (no photo, no ceremony, no announcement, nothing), so it's not really about not wanting attention. If she really doesn't want attention, she's not doing a very good job of not getting it. She would get way less attention by just accepting the runner-up award, smiling for the camera, and walking out. She had to know APA already had photographs of her, which would make it onto their website and into their magazine. When she signed the entry form she consented to being photographed, so even if she didn't want the attention, she agreed to accept it.

Like I said before, she has the ability to change her behavior or at least take steps to make it less offensive to others. For example, before the final match she could approach a tournament official and explain what might happen and why. Whether it's a nervous reaction to the pressure of the finals or simply not being well-equipped to accept losing, let them know what to expect. That's it, done. Now the tournament officials have an opportunity to be considerate of her feelings when it's over, instead of feeling like they've just been slapped in the face by a poor loser. They can just let her leave, and ship the doorsto - er, runner-up award to her, and she can do with it as she so desires.

To be honest, I'm confused as to what constituted inconsiderate and offensive behavior.
 
What I hear you saying is that it's ok to be impolite or offensive as long as you don't give a shit that people think you're impolite or offensive. If that's the case it shouldn't be a shame at all (to you or to anyone else who shares that line of thinking) that someone finds the behavior offensive.

I would expect nothing less from an APA Operator. You should give it a rest. There is absolutely nothing wrong with not having your picture taken. You are too worried about what she does. Its her 'Right' to not pose for your pic. Then you come on here sounding like a Communist on the Board of Ethics Committee. Repeatedly knocking her character in a thread that was started to congratulate her on her finish. Start your own thread and lets watch people come out the woodwork to criticize you and the APA.


Chris
 
I would expect nothing less from an APA Operator. You should give it a rest. There is absolutely nothing wrong with not having your picture taken.

Except for that little detail of when you sign up for the tournament, you consent to having your photo taken.

I'm not knocking OMGWTF, I read her account of the weekend, and I always enjoy reading what she has to say. Just pointing out the fact that you missed.
 
Except for that little detail of when you sign up for the tournament, you consent to having your photo taken.

I'm not knocking OMGWTF, I read her account of the weekend, and I always enjoy reading what she has to say. Just pointing out the fact that you missed.

OMGWTF would have barfed on the camera...she was so sick.
 
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