John and Lou, the plain truth
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That might be the most absurd thing I have ever read on this site and I have been here for a long time and have read some really dumbass things. 10k can change lives very easily.
LOL at YOUR hypocrisy.
You too can be a god, Chef. I deem you god of "Party Room Emptying".
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I guess I could care less about the money that was on this one. I watched it because I have listened to these two argue back and forth for a few years now and I wanted to see what would come of it on the pool table. I figure if they want to bet 1 million on the match it's their business.
What I think of them doesn't depend on the amount of money they bet.
What I think of them doesn't depend on the amount of money they bet.
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Well, John, now that you busted that live-stream virginity, it's time to branch out. The U.S. Open 9-Ball Championship has been reduced to 128 players with $1,000 entry fee. I think you should get in.
This year, I have a bucket list, and I hope to see you there. :wave2:
whoah, wait, I missed this, is that for real?
Is that a good idea?
Looking at the results page from last year, it seems they had about 170 entries.
So maybe 256 is too big. But with a doubled entry fee, they may not even fill 128.
Not a lot of people are willing to bet $1,000 of their money they can win 4 rounds
against all these champions, just to recoup their entry fee.
(and 5 rounds needed to maybe break even for the whole trip).
I agree 100 percent with this.
Sometimes hardcore gamblers like to high-roll, for example, in a poker game, acting as if their raise-the-pot is a mere pittance.
My experience in the pool world of gambling is that the loudest barkers are usually on short funds, and it's the quiet one who never boasts that has the deepest pockets.
It's kind of that way in life from what I've observed. Many times those who driver around in big Cadillacs, BMWs, Mercedes, wearing 14K diamond-encrusted Rolex watches, with Italian silk suits like others to think they're loaded, yet they live on a welfare budget.
$10,000 is a big chunk of change. I don't care who you are. I wouldn't mind somebody giving me 10 grand right about now. Maybe I wouldn't have to work so hard to pay the damn taxes come April 15th.
I'll let you be the judge.
We can restart the conversation - I often lose some threads in between the volume and the drama (drama I fuel).
If I am heading towards Des Moines then I absolutely will arrange to meet you.
There's guys who drop 10k getting lap dances at Scores , it cost 15k to play in the pebble beach pro am and you need a stop watch to time how fast it fills up
To some 10k is a yrs pay to JB who already has said is a week or so to make up it's not much he's hardly working pay check to pay check and can easily afford the loss
So to some this might have some great feat of courage to others not so much
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In the spirit of pool hokiness-- like giving corny names to pool players -- you should give a name to that screenshot.
I recommend Rep-you-Tate-shun.
-Sean
I agree with you that things should never get to this point. I mean I think that grudge matches can be ok and can be fun and should be fun. I think we should have more grudge matches without having them be motivated by intense hate and afterwards everyone can be cool and realize that everyone has good qualities.
But at the end of the day it's two average players who otherwise play average one pocket, one of them with a higher average, who decided to make it interesting to the tune of ten thousand. Nothing really pitiful about it in my opinion. It's a way to release the pent up frustration and it was fun for me.
I think it's great to see two people get out from behind the keyboard and show off what they can and can't do. We all talk a lot of pool and we sometimes talk a lot of trash and once in a while we need to step up and back it up or decide to be more peaceful.
I think Tate's point would have more validity if John and Lou ran into each other one day and decided to play for $10k. But really, even putting the possible additional sales aside, what I see John and Lou both having gotten is a pool experience that few of us will have: 4 months in which they both got to work intensely on their games, shoot with all the one pocket greats they could find, work on their mental games, and then get to play on the AccuStats stage in front of the pool world.
Each got to do all of that and have a chance of getting paid for their fun to boot. John was the underdog, clearly, But he wasn't steamrolled, and had chances to win. I.e., John had a 1/3 chance of +$10k and a 2/3 chance of -$10k, so in expectation, he paid about $3500 for that experience (plus his losses over the course of 4 months of training).
If work would allow it, I would love to spend four months playing 30-40 hours of 1P a week against the best players I could find, and then play on the big stage. I don't know how much I would improve, but I think it would be significant. And I would carry that benefit for the rest of my life. Maybe I should start auditioning candidates for the role of Internet Enemy(TM)?
Cory
Each got to do all of that and have a chance of getting paid for their fun to boot. John was the underdog, clearly, But he wasn't steamrolled, and had chances to win. I.e., John had a 1/3 chance of +$10k and a 2/3 chance of -$10k, so in expectation, he paid about $3500 for that experience (plus his losses over the course of 4 months of training).
If work would allow it, I would love to spend four months playing 30-40 hours of 1P a week against the best players I could find, and then play on the big stage. I don't know how much I would improve, but I think it would be significant. And I would carry that benefit for the rest of my life. Maybe I should start auditioning candidates for the role of Internet Enemy(TM)?
Cory
I agree with you that things should never get to this point. I mean I think that grudge matches can be ok and can be fun and should be fun. I think we should have more grudge matches without having them be motivated by intense hate and afterwards everyone can be cool and realize that everyone has good qualities.
But at the end of the day it's two average players who otherwise play average one pocket, one of them with a higher average, who decided to make it interesting to the tune of ten thousand. Nothing really pitiful about it in my opinion. It's a way to release the pent up frustration and it was fun for me.
I think it's great to see two people get out from behind the keyboard and show off what they can and can't do. We all talk a lot of pool and we sometimes talk a lot of trash and once in a while we need to step up and back it up or decide to be more peaceful.
POTT = post of the thread.
As long as the result is a RESOLUTION of what caused the animosity in the first place, the match did its job. If there's no resolution, then the only thing the match did was to cause further damage, this time to the personal pocket/wallet level.
You show class in the way you handled (and are still handling) yourself, John. :thumbup2:
I hope whatever possessed you two, has now been exorcised. By the looks of some of the posts here, it looks like it evaporated, and now the readership is possessed, with head-swiveling, green-stuff-spewing posts.
-Sean
You won't have to go far there's plenty of one pocket player in your area that will even play cheap:smile:
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John lives in China where the per capita income is 2K a year.
But speaking of grudge matches, when I was in the Navy I spent some time on an aircraft carrier and the day before the ship would hit port they would set up a boxing ring and have what they called a "smoker" about 40 or 50 fights. Some of them were between guys with boxing experience but a lot were grudge matches and they would announce if it was a grudge match. The grudge matches were entertaining but stupid because the guys tended to be out of shape and couldn't fight but the reason the Navy sanctioned those fights was because they preferred the guys fighting inside a ring than in a bar somewhere ashore which would end up in brig time. Just because something is stupid doesn't mean it isn't entertaining.
I did watch part of Lou robs John and it was entertaining but stupid.
Its all carrot and stick stuff. We praise those we agree with and punish those that don't, all in an attempt to fix the world by having more people think like us.
I got to love the guys that figure red repping me will bring me in line with their way of thinking.
Yeah that'll work.