Is the Object Ball just a "Mirrored Reflection" of the Cue Ball

ENGLISH! said:
Vernacular & terminology?

For more than 45 years where I played, ANY hit on the cue ball other than center was referred to as english. No one ever says hit it with 'draw left'. They say hit it with 'Low Left English'. Hence it's low spin with left spin. Hence any spin was referred to as english.

Everyone knew what was being said when someone said hit it with with low english or high english.

Then, I guess someone came along that had trouble understanding & wanted to change the vernacular & now it seems that some people want to say there is no such thing as high & low english like it does not even exist.

Dr. Dave & I once had a brief conversation about top spin vs rolling 'spin'.

I asked if it is merely rolling, then why does it spin in place briefly before then taking off 'rolling' again.

The answer was because if the obstructing ball where not there nor the rail to stop the ball then it would roll for a much greater distance.

Well, we don't play in an IF world. The ball is there & we intend to hit it & when we hit it we want the ball to spin in place briefly & then for the spin to grab & for the ball to 'spin'/roll forward.

So...normally one does not say 'roll it forward'. One would say 'spin it forward'. (To me they mean two different things.)

When one tells a pitcher to throw a 'slider' what in scientific terms does the ball 'slide' on?

No offense meant to anyone. I'm just glad that I know exactly what Octogenarians mean when they tell me to hit it with topspin force follow english.

Best 2 All,
Rick
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In Pool, as in every other activity in life "english" means sidespin, and only sidespin.

The fact that lots of people you knew made the common mistake of referring to high and low
as English, doesn't change the fact that it is incorrect to do so.

Dale
 
the specific "aiming" is easier to do using a specific part of the cue ball

RRfireblade said:
You don't aim at the CB. "Aiming" requires two pieces, a reference and a target.

You don't aim at the rear sight of a gun and you never touch the bullet.

You don't aim at the bow string and you never (essentially) touch the arrow.

Aiming in pool is much like aiming in golf, or hockey or many other activities where the 'striker' is put in motion.

In golf, you aim at a target well out in front of the ball, not the ball. The ball simply gets in the way of the club head during it's path down the target line.

Same in baseball....

Same in hockey....

Your target is the destination of the projectile, not the projectile. You aim at the target.
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So you don't aim your cue's tip at the cue ball?

To do anything consistently requires some type of "system". I think players, especially in this Aiming Forum are mislead about what an aiming "system" really is and how it works. One thing you need before aiming even matters is a "system" for hitting the cue ball straight every time. If you're mishitting the cue ball there's no aiming system that could matter.

If you play well I'm sure you have some kind of pre shot routine to accomplish this with your feet, body angles, hand/cue alignment, etc. Then it's essential to see the cue ball and object ball connect in a way that creates the angle you are trying to "create" to make your next pool shot.

This can be done a variety of ways and you can call this a "system" or not, it's up to you. I can use several "aiming systems" if I choose to, however, the most important thing to me is to AIM WITH THE CUE BALL, instead of "AT" the object ball. Your distance from the cue ball you can control on a consistent basis, and this is impossible with the object ball.

Therefore, the specific "aiming" is easier to do using a specific part of the cue ball and a "relative" spot on the object ball. Whether you use the top, bottom or middle of the object ball I feel it's important to focus on the CENTER or EDGE (depending on how much "cut" you need) of the object ball to calculate your angle with.

I look at ALL shots like they're "straight in" first before letting my mind focus on what angle I need to "Create". When all is said and done pool is a creative game played with feel and touch, the eyes are used to establish the required information for each shot.

I've never heard a champion talk about winning a tournament or match because their "eyes were good that day." They will comment on how good their feel/touch was because that's the "difference that makes the difference." 'The Game is the Teacher'
 
ENGLISH! said:
Personally I don't care if one wants to call it 'Snot' as long the communication goes or comes through. For all I really care they can call left & right spin 'Snots' & high & low spin 'Farts'.

So...for a low left spin shot, they might say put some snot fart on it out your left nostril.

I'd know what they mean & would not chastise them for not using the formal British terms.

And when I asked to confirm by asking, 'Do you mean hit it with low left english?', they'd said, 'Yeah, didn't I just that?'.

Best 2 All,
Rick
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CJ,

Since it's your thread...

I 'deleted' my earlier posts.

I'll just say that when one makes a post in a thread it is not just read by the individual that opened the thread. The entire general readership may see what is said.

If misstatements are made, I think anyone should step in to make a point of that possible misstatement. Most Americans don't speak the 'Queen's English' & there are American Phrases & terminology that are correct even if not said in the 'Queen's English'.

When you say 'high english' I'd bet there are more pool players that know what you mean than don't. It's about communication & not being 'politically' correct.

Best 2 You & All,
Rick
 
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This may be the "Teacher"

For those who can't understand some of the basic principles, this link may help. If not, don't come headhunting for me. I used this system long before I ever saw it in print and simplified. I am hoping to obtain this aid cheap if I can find it, so I can better explain it and show it to the non-believers when I run into them at the pool hall.

http://www.saluc.com/html/billiard/pdf/tucker_system.pdf
 
I have used this as a "check and balance"

HawaiianEye said:
For those who can't understand some of the basic principles, this link may help. If not, don't come headhunting for me. I used this system long before I ever saw it in print and simplified. I am hoping to obtain this aid cheap if I can find it, so I can better explain it and show it to the non-believers when I run into them at the pool hall.

http://www.saluc.com/html/billiard/pdf/tucker_system.pdf
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I have used this as a "check and balance" with my Ultimate Aiming System. There's one variable that I've chosen to add, however, it's not my system, so I'll not interfere. ;)
 
And they say americans don't get sarcasm.

Still, nice to see you boys still around, what with one of you so busy with 'exciting news', and the other up to his elbows in nappies.

:rolleyes:
 
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