Karen of today and karen of yesterday arent the same.
Siming Chen
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Karen of today and karen of yesterday arent the same.
Do you think she could maintain the same record against the likes of SVB, Woodward, Orcollo and the Ko brothers?
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I already asked him that. He replied:
"I don't know why it wouldn't be.
Sure, initially she wouldn't be accustomed to the degree of return-fire. But it is not like she is unaccustomed to the TV table, late rounds of major events, the pressure of needing to come through when it matters. In fact, she has more under-the-lights experience than male players who play at her level.
And when we look at this initial goofiness, remember it is a two-way street. If she played a similarly-rated male, the monkey may be on the back of the male player--the one who, by conventional wisdom--isn't supposed to lose.
Siming's record over the last four years (since age 19) against the top western players (Allison, Jasmin, Kelly, and Karen) is 96 wins, 68 losses --basically playing 67 points above this competition. It takes a pretty high male pro to match that record."
For the record, I disagree (as do many others). Maybe I'm just a sexist pig.
"I don't know why it wouldn't be.
Sure, initially she wouldn't be accustomed to the degree of return-fire. But it is not like she is unaccustomed to the TV table, late rounds of major events, the pressure of needing to come through when it matters. In fact, she has more under-the-lights experience than male players who play at her level.
And when we look at this initial goofiness, remember it is a two-way street. If she played a similarly-rated male, the monkey may be on the back of the male player--the one who, by conventional wisdom--isn't supposed to lose.
Siming's record over the last four years (since age 19) against the top western players (Allison, Jasmin, Kelly, and Karen) is 96 wins, 68 losses --basically playing 67 points above this competition. It takes a pretty high male pro to match that record."
For the record, I disagree (as do many others). Maybe I'm just a sexist pig.
You might have action if you bring Sky to China. Show us where the balls belong.
lol. Yeah! Travel to China because you "might" have action! Balls totally in your court now, Joe!
"Might" meaning your challenge might be accepted. Term, conditions and money will be posted way before you even book a ticket.
If she was the gambling type, I'd bet every single male in the top world Fargo 100 would play her. Even if they watched her beat their male peers. It would just be an ego thing.
It would be the action of the century. She could play a different male pro every week for 2 years, and they'd keep lining up, even if she won many matches.
It could also be a good promotion for pool amongst the banger population. The battle of the sexes.
It will never happen but it's fun to think about.
It would be the action of the century. She could play a different male pro every week for 2 years, and they'd keep lining up, even if she won many matches.
It could also be a good promotion for pool amongst the banger population. The battle of the sexes.
It will never happen but it's fun to think about.
And when done with that, shed be a beast on the ladies tour.
This battle of the sexes Bobby Riggs vs. Billie Jean King thing has been overdone. I would estimate the VERY BEST FEMALE on the planet would have no chance with a legitimate Top 100 male pro (long race to 50 or better playing 10 ball) and a severe underdog in anyone above top 250. That's just the truth. Yes I know Karen Corr etc...etc. Fine player but in the long run no chance. Stealing a set here and there doesn't make it so. Statistical anomaly because she can play but is not top tier men speed.
I remember when Allison F battled a way past his prime Grady in that battle of the sexes thing. Allison was Queen of the female universe and Mr. Mathews best before date had long gone (not that he was ever a Top Tier Pro...great student, thinker and gambler). Throw out your female champion against SVB, Alex, Dennis or Jayson S plus 20 others in a long race and you'll need to call a coroner.
Anything else is just silly.
I remember when Allison F battled a way past his prime Grady in that battle of the sexes thing. Allison was Queen of the female universe and Mr. Mathews best before date had long gone (not that he was ever a Top Tier Pro...great student, thinker and gambler). Throw out your female champion against SVB, Alex, Dennis or Jayson S plus 20 others in a long race and you'll need to call a coroner.
Anything else is just silly.
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Well, according to fargo alone theres 40+ men that play better, way to go out on a limb here. What I wouldnt give to be in the top 50 on Fargo, but that means nothing to some of you, cause you are all in the top 10......from the keyboard anyway.
Jason
Just to be clear. The top 50 CRUSH her (and I was referring to the BEST female regardless of Fargo). The Top 250 beat her well done on 9-10 nights.
Damn Nick they legalize weed in Canada?
During the 1998 Australian Open, sisters Serena and Venus Williams boasted that they could beat any man ranked outside the world's top 200. The challenge was accepted by Karsten Braasch, a German player ranked No 203. Before the matches, Braasch played a round of golf in the morning, drank a couple of beers, smoked a few cigarettes, and then played the Williams sisters for a set each, one after the other. He defeated Serena, 6-1, and Venus, 6-2. Serena said afterwards "I didn't know it would be that hard. I hit shots that would have been winners on the women's tour and he got to them easily."
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Yeah, neither of these terrific woman tennis players went down this road ever again
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Yeah, neither of these terrific woman tennis players went down this road ever again
All you guys are talking about a long gambling match. The Fargo Ratings are only determined by recorded tournament play, so it does not apply to marathon gambling matches by either men or women. I seriously doubt whether Siming wants or needs to play any money matches, since she already makes a healthy living from what's she doing now. I promise you her endorsement and sponsorship deals dwarf those of any of the top men, with Shane perhaps being not so far behind her. In China the top women players are sports celebrities and well known faces on commercials and billboards. I'm sure she could care less about beating Joe Blow for ten grand in a race to 100.
All that said, I will say this once again for all to hear. The absolute best women pool players in the world are coming out of China. They are better than any who have come before them! If eight or ten of these women came over here and played our regional tours, they would make a mess of things for the guys, winning some events and making multiple high money cashes (top five). If you want to talk tournament pool then the second level pros in this country wouldn't have to like it and only the very best regional players would be beating any of them on a regular basis.
If Siming ever decided to play in the U.S. Open or a similar event with men, I will be glad to make some side wagers on her matches, against anyone who is not a top 50 pro and I might extend that to the top 25 with a game or two on the wire. This ain't tennis folks, no strength required to push those pool balls around the table. Those kind of comparisons don't apply here.
All that said, I will say this once again for all to hear. The absolute best women pool players in the world are coming out of China. They are better than any who have come before them! If eight or ten of these women came over here and played our regional tours, they would make a mess of things for the guys, winning some events and making multiple high money cashes (top five). If you want to talk tournament pool then the second level pros in this country wouldn't have to like it and only the very best regional players would be beating any of them on a regular basis.
If Siming ever decided to play in the U.S. Open or a similar event with men, I will be glad to make some side wagers on her matches, against anyone who is not a top 50 pro and I might extend that to the top 25 with a game or two on the wire. This ain't tennis folks, no strength required to push those pool balls around the table. Those kind of comparisons don't apply here.
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During the 1998 Australian Open, sisters Serena and Venus Williams boasted that they could beat any man ranked outside the world's top 200. The challenge was accepted by Karsten Braasch, a German player ranked No 203. Before the matches, Braasch played a round of golf in the morning, drank a couple of beers, smoked a few cigarettes, and then played the Williams sisters for a set each, one after the other. He defeated Serena, 6-1, and Venus, 6-2. Serena said afterwards "I didn't know it would be that hard. I hit shots that would have been winners on the women's tour and he got to them easily."
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Yeah, neither of these terrific woman tennis players went down this road ever again
Big Big difference between the 2 not even comparable
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