How Many Aiming Systems...

[lfigueroa]

Unless perhaps there was a reason for including it and you’re continuing to be unnecessarily nit picky.

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Perhaps for some people (probably many), Buddy's Clock System, for aiming, is so far from their preconceived notions about the subject, that they are incapable of grasping the *fact* that some people are doing and looking at other things than what they are.

And so, IMO, Buddy's Clock System, while it may just be a CB contact system for some people, for others, it suffices as an aiming system because they are relying on other things, like their setup, to aim. Perhaps for many, the Clock System is just the cherry on top of a big mound of whipped cream that does not require all sorts of complex gyrations, calculations, and ministrations to work.

Lou Figueroa

 

[Mr. Wilson]

I followed the posts thoroughly and know this was posted. If you knew better and he didn't, which was obvious, you shouldn't have listened.

Apparently you didn't know better.

So now it's time to completely disregard you.

This will be the last time I will say anything before banning anyone not adding constructively.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

This will be the last time I will say anything before banning anyone not adding constructively.

Hey, no problem. I thought it was productive in it's own way. But here we go and this is all fact. As I stated, naming the aiming systems is a part of being constructive, not just how many. How many of WHAT? What are they?

1. CTE with manual pivot

2. CTE Pro1

3. Shiskebob

4. Full Ball Aiming with pivot

5. Little Mike's Pivot system

6. 90/90

7. The SEE System

8. Contact Point Aiming

9. Joe Tucker Contact Point Aiming

10. Ghost Ball Aiming

11. Railroad Aiming System

12. Tunnel Aiming System

13. Chain Ball Aiming System

14. Square Ball Aiming System

15. Arrow Aiming System

16. The Line Aiming System

17. Light Reflection Aiming System

18. Ball Reflection Aiming System

19. Ball Shadow Aiming System

20. Rail Shadow Aiming System

21. Invisible Spot Aiming System

22. Sectional Aiming System

23. Four Equal Sections Aiming System

24. Three Equal Sections Aiming System

25. Big Ball Aiming System

26. Geometric Aiming System

27. Mirror Center Aiming System

28. Equal and Opposite Aiming System

29. Double The Distance Aiming System

30. Isosceles Triangle Aiming System

31. Ferrule Aiming System

 

[Low500]

Perhaps for some people (probably many), Buddy's Clock System, for aiming, is so far from their preconceived notions about the subject, that they are incapable of grasping the *fact* that some people are doing and looking at other things than what they are.
And so, IMO, Buddy's Clock System, while it may just be a CB contact system for some people, for others, it suffices as an aiming system because they are relying on other things, like their setup, to aim. Perhaps for many, the Clock System is just the cherry on top of a big mound of whipped cream that does not require all sorts of complex gyrations, calculations, and ministrations to work.
Lou Figueroa

You seem to be a little confused about what the clock system really sets out to do, at least according to what Buddy Hall says himself.
It is not an aiming system at all...it is a position playing system. He says so in his video explaining it.
It's readily available on youtube and should clear things up regarding the differences in an aiming system and a positional system.

 

[Low500]

Hey, no problem. I thought it was productive in it's own way. But here we go and this is all fact. As I stated, naming the aiming systems is a part of being constructive, not just how many. How many of WHAT? What are they?

1. CTE with manual pivot
2. CTE Pro1
3. Shiskebob
4. Full Ball Aiming with pivot
5. Little Mike's Pivot system
6. 90/90
7. The SEE System
8. Contact Point Aiming
9. Joe Tucker Contact Point Aiming
10. Ghost Ball Aiming
11. Railroad Aiming System
12. Tunnel Aiming System
13. Chain Ball Aiming System
14. Square Ball Aiming System
15. Arrow Aiming System
16. The Line Aiming System
17. Light Reflection Aiming System
18. Ball Reflection Aiming System
19. Ball Shadow Aiming System
20. Rail Shadow Aiming System
21. Invisible Spot Aiming System
22. Sectional Aiming System
23. Four Equal Sections Aiming System
24. Three Equal Sections Aiming System
25. Big Ball Aiming System
26. Geometric Aiming System
27. Mirror Center Aiming System
28. Equal and Opposite Aiming System
29. Double The Distance Aiming System
30. Isosceles Triangle Aiming System
31. Ferrule Aiming System

Good grief, if someone tried to use a group of these, it would run them stone crazy at the table trying to decide which one was best for the situation at hand.
Would you agree with me that having only ONE system is all that's needed? (assuming the system itself isn't flawed with gobbledy-gook and the shooter really learns how to use it?)
Such as the system you and I both use. (I'm assuming you use CTE based on your previous past posts).
I am somewhat familiar with your number 16 The Line Aiming System as that's what Lassiter said he used when he had that line drawn on the ferrule of his stick. I used that for years and as my eyes got worse, I think I just couldn't see the line well enough to make the judgments. Note the word "judgments" which I don't like....that's when I stumbled on to CTE. No judgments or guesswork required.
Sorry to ramble. The main question was: Don't we just need ONE system, that really and truly works?

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Perhaps for some people (probably many), Buddy's Clock System, for aiming, is so far from their preconceived notions about the subject,

Buddy's clock system is NOT about aiming and never has been. Not for some and definitely not for many.

that they are incapable of grasping the *fact* that some people are doing and looking at other things than what they are.

That is 100% correct, especially for those who know and use a particular aiming system as opposed to others who don't know what they don't know and there is to know. And that applies to ANY aiming system.

And so, IMO, Buddy's Clock System, while it may just be a CB contact system for some people, for others, it suffices as an aiming system because they are relying on other things, like their setup, to aim.

Be productively constructive. Explain in detail. How does it work? Inquiring minds want to know. Buddy's Clock system doesn't suffice for ANY player's aiming system. It has to do with applying and gauging SPIN to create angles ONLY. Setting up to aim is a separate function.

Perhaps for many, the Clock System is just the cherry on top of a big mound of whipped cream that does not require all sorts of complex gyrations, calculations, and ministrations to work.

Lou Figueroa

Again, details. What are you referring to specifically? These are only questions for more insight into the vagueness of above claims. Clarify. Not intended to harass.[

 

[Dan White]

Hey, no problem. I thought it was productive in it's own way. But here we go and this is all fact. As I stated, naming the aiming systems is a part of being constructive, not just how many. How many of WHAT? What are they?

1. CTE with manual pivot

2. CTE Pro1

3. Shiskebob

4. Full Ball Aiming with pivot

5. Little Mike's Pivot system

6. 90/90

7. The SEE System

8. Contact Point Aiming

9. Joe Tucker Contact Point Aiming

10. Ghost Ball Aiming

11. Railroad Aiming System

12. Tunnel Aiming System

13. Chain Ball Aiming System

14. Square Ball Aiming System

15. Arrow Aiming System

16. The Line Aiming System

17. Light Reflection Aiming System

18. Ball Reflection Aiming System

19. Ball Shadow Aiming System

20. Rail Shadow Aiming System

21. Invisible Spot Aiming System

22. Sectional Aiming System

23. Four Equal Sections Aiming System

24. Three Equal Sections Aiming System

25. Big Ball Aiming System

26. Geometric Aiming System

27. Mirror Center Aiming System

28. Equal and Opposite Aiming System

29. Double The Distance Aiming System

30. Isosceles Triangle Aiming System

31. Ferrule Aiming System

You "forgot" one of the real good ones, Poolology!

 

[SpiderWebComm]

You "forgot" one of the real good ones, Poolology!

Nope. I didn't list it because I can't teach it nor fully learned it. I saw the graphs/diagrams but had no interest in learning the entire possible layouts for the corresponding fraction.

That's why I only listed a normal typical fractional aiming system.

Have you fully learned it? Can you teach it? Have you used it in it's entirety? Do you currently use it for everything?

 

[Dan White]

Nope. I didn't list it because I can't teach it nor fully learned it. I saw the graphs/diagrams but had no interest in learning the entire possible layouts for the corresponding fraction.

That's why I only listed a normal typical fractional aiming system.

Have you fully learned it? Can you teach it? Have you used it in it's entirety? Do you currently use it for everything?

I don't recall that being the intent of this thread. I can use it and teach it if necessary, but it is easier to tell someone to pay the $5 and they can get the book from the horse's mouth.

 

[lfigueroa]

I don't recall that being the intent of this thread. I can use it and teach it if necessary, but it is easier to tell someone to pay the $5 and they can get the book from the horse's mouth.

So, Mr. White: how many aiming systems do you know well enough to teach someone?

Lou Figueroa

 

[SpiderWebComm]

I don't recall that being the intent of this thread. I can use it and teach it if necessary, but it is easier to tell someone to pay the $5 and they can get the book from the horse's mouth.

LOU FIGUEROA POST:

So, how many aiming systems do you know and could capably teach to a neophyte?

I was thinking about this today and figure I probably know somewhere around a half dozen, maybe a few more.

Lou Figueroa

I don't think an aiming system can be taught properly unless the person fully understands it and either uses it or has used it AS TAUGHT to figure out any idiosyncrasies and it's effectiveness.

Otherwise it'll be a bastardized half-baked partially working system.

Your advice to spend the 5 bucks is the best idea.

 

[Dan White]

So, Mr. White: how many aiming systems do you know well enough to teach someone?

Lou Figueroa

Using the word "systems" loosely and not saying I would actually recommend all of these, I'll go with 4.

Did I win anything?

 

[Dan White]

LOU FIGUEROA POST:

So, how many aiming systems do you know and could capably teach to a neophyte?

I was thinking about this today and figure I probably know somewhere around a half dozen, maybe a few more.

Lou Figueroa

I don't think an aiming system can be taught properly unless the person fully understands it and either uses it or has used it AS TAUGHT to figure out any idiosyncrasies and it's effectiveness.

Otherwise it'll be a bastardized half-baked partially working system.

Your advice to spend the 5 bucks is the best idea.

I guess I was mostly referring to the part where you say "Do you currently use it for everything?" Not all systems are intended to be used "for everything."

 

[cookie man]

I guess I was mostly referring to the part where you say "Do you currently use it for everything?" Not all systems are intended to be used "for everything."

So what percentage do you use poolology for

 

[greyghost]

Roughly a dozen if including banks and other oddities including one offs for niche shots


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[lfigueroa]

Using the word "systems" loosely and not saying I would actually recommend all of these, I'll go with 4.

Did I win anything?

No, but I do appreciate you playing

Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

Roughly a dozen if including banks and other oddities including one offs for niche shots


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The inclusion aiming systems for banks and specialty shots is an interesting take. But what about solely for general purpose aiming?

Lou Figueroa

 

[greyghost]

The inclusion aiming systems for banks and specialty shots is an interesting take. But what about solely for general purpose aiming?



Lou Figueroa

The ghost of sam and bob was but a fraction of the shadow.


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[lfigueroa]

The ghost of sam and bob was but a fraction of the shadow.


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Is that two or three systems... or just some really good weed

Lou Figueroa

 

[JoeyInCali]

How many aiming system do you have to know to qualify as an aiming system junkee?