I went in '07 and loved every crazy minute of it. One big drawback at the EW was security. Getting robbed either in the hotel itself or in the parking lot was an issue. You really had to be aware around the elevators or out in the lot. The security at the casino is far better. The 'gambling carnival' atmosphere WAS incredible though.
Yes, it should still be on every pool player's bucket list. I regret not having gone to Johnston City during its time. I was in Illinois on and off 1967-70.Yes the EW was better than the casino.
The DCC in it current form is still better than anything else going for action. Skipping the current DCC because its not at the EW is cheating yourself.
Is there a problem sitting down to watch matches? I had not heard this before, although someone has mentioned less space at the casino venue. This would certainly be significant for me, especially if such a problem remains after so many years., , , there is little in the way of seating to watch other matches.
Yes, this is accurate. There are three types of matches:Is there a problem sitting down to watch matches? I had not heard this before, although someone has mentioned less space at the casino venue. This would certainly be significant for me, especially if such a problem remains after so many years.
Thanks for the reply. I understand, too well, the mindsets "doing the best we can" and "we are as good as anyone else", but these are the attitudes that will root anyone or anything dead center in mediocrity. I have lived many years hoping for so much more for this languishing sport I so dearly love. If folks such as Greg Sullivan will not step up and provide pool with an imprimatur of excellence through first class events, then I guess pool will remain a second class sport. But as long as somebody's making some money . . . (It's incredible to me that our sport relies upon movies for its survival.)Yes, this is accurate. There are three types of matches:
Accu-Stats Arena
Seating for these matches is ample, including a balcony from which those who haven't purchased seats can often view. Feature matches for the core events, including the last few rounds of all events, are played here. All ten ball matches are, similarly, played here.
Matches on the Main Level but not in the Accu-stats Arena
For these matches, there typically aren't more than about a dozen good seats from which to view any given match. Speaking as a fan that likes to move around a lot from match to match, I can confirm that I must often stand when I have to sweat a tasty matchup on an outer table on the main level.
Matches Upstairs
About half of about forty-two tables used in the DCC are on the upper level. These matches are very rarely the feature matchups but getting a decent seat is usually not very difficult.
Still, has there ever been a 42 table tournament that had ample seating with good viewing at every table? I've been going to pro tournaments since 1976 and I've never seen one.
Nice read! At the end of that thread it is stated the Horseshoe contract is through the year 2022, and 2023 would be the first year eligible for a venue change. I wonder if Diamond has talked to anyone yet. They would have already had to start the conversations if they were going to change venue. I'd bet they will stay put.Here’s something I posted back in 2015 that some might find interesting.
Stopped at Crowne Plaza (Executive West) @2015 DCC
While at the Derby I dropped someone off at the airport and thought, hell I'll check out the old Executive West for kicks and memories. I parked at the back (the outside is the same) and walked in the door and whoa! They did a really nice job remodeling everything. The old bar is completely...www.onepocket.org
And at this tournament there is good seating for ONE table! If you don't like standing to watch matches then it may not be for you, although you can count on one good match after another in the Accu-Stats Arena. If some of the existing tables were eliminated there would be room for risers and more seating, but the problem is the fields are so large that they need every table. That's the Catch-22 here. The DCC is too successful as a players event to have room for spectator seating. The reality is that they need an even larger space to hold this event in, where they can install 45-50 tables and bring in some bleachers for spectators. A string of three to five level high bleachers along the rail (on both sides) would be a great addition if they could create room for it. Then it would become more attractive as a spectator event, and they could sell a lot more tickets.Yes, this is accurate. There are three types of matches:
Accu-Stats Arena
Seating for these matches is ample, including a balcony from which those who haven't purchased seats can often view. Feature matches for the core events, including the last few rounds of all events, are played here. All ten ball matches are, similarly, played here.
Matches on the Main Level but not in the Accu-stats Arena
For these matches, there typically aren't more than about a dozen good seats from which to view any given match. Speaking as a fan that likes to move around a lot from match to match, I can confirm that I must often stand when I have to sweat a tasty matchup on an outer table on the main level.
Matches Upstairs
About half of about forty-two tables used in the DCC are on the upper level. These matches are very rarely the feature matchups but getting a decent seat is usually not very difficult.
Still, has there ever been a 42 table tournament that had ample seating with good viewing at every table? I've been going to pro tournaments since 1976 and I've never seen one.
It would be nice to have a high def camera on a table or group of tables for people who are in their rooms.And at this tournament there is good seating for ONE table! If you don't like standing to watch matches then it may not be for you, although you can count on one good match after another in the Accu-Stats Arena. If some of the existing tables were eliminated there would be room for risers and more seating, but the problem is the fields are so large that they need every table. That's the Catch-22 here. The DCC is too successful as a players event to have room for spectator seating. The reality is that they need an even larger space to hold this event in, where they can install 45-50 tables and bring in some bleachers for spectators. A string of three to five level high bleachers along the rail (on both sides) would be a great addition if they could create room for it. Then it would become more attractive as a spectator event, and they could sell a lot more tickets.
The Executive West was a toilet. The scuffs loved it because you could have 10 people in a room and no one said anything, unless you got stupid. Which many of them did . The parking lot was home to several robberies, the 300 pound hookers were abundant, There were nickel and dime thieves everywhere and almost every year I went there I started my visit by finding a dirty pair of underwear in the bathroom when I first walked into my room. I did still manage to enjoy my visits there, because I am such a pool fanatic.I just posted elsewhere about the DCC and did not want to derail a thread, thus this thread. In 2006, I made my one and only pilgrimage to the DCC. I definitely wanted to return, and even started making plans to return a couple of years later, but they had moved to a casino in Indiana . . . and I decided that I would wait and see what developed. In the meantime, I went to Tunica once (much shorter drive) but did not go back. The reports coming back from Indiana were not great -- long walks, food issues, etc. I never got a settled report on non-casino gambling. I would bet that DCC is still the greatest thing since sliced bread, but I get the idea it lost a great deal in the move. Lately, I read something about a 21 year old age limit. So what's the deal now? Why did the DCC leave the Executive West in the first place?
I am guessing, Indiana -- suburb of Louisville and 20 minutes to the Casino? You are fortunate. The way I look at it is, the further one must travel, the better the event must be. I have never heard any serious criticism of DCC/EW. To a person, everyone I talked to said go, go, go. About two years before I went in 2006, my one pocket partner began to tell me about Johnston City and DCC -- DCC was, he urged again and again, a once in a lifetime, cannot afford to miss, and do not miss, and when are you going . . . It got to the point that it was either go to DCC or find a new 1P partner, lol. So I went, and despite some nit issues and a few minor hassles, DCC supplied what my buddy promised -- the time of my life. I am so glad I went.I live in New Albany . . .
Crossroads
The Legacy of the Janscos
Story By R.A. Dyer
"It was in a nothing poolroom 300 miles from nowhere, a nothing poolroom with concrete walls, bleachers and overshot with the mingled odors of beer, cigarettes and desperation. For respectable pool players, the 1961 tournament at Johnston City's too-hopefully named "Show Bar" must have felt like the end of hope, a tournament where players not only come to lose, but go to hide.
But perceptions deceive . . ."