No big deal, but I said it first.
WWYD 10 ball
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Lol, not sure how I missed it.
I doubt I could hit any shot better than Shane. However if possible, I would opted for short rail, then long rail along the left side.
5 o'clock gets you the draw to the short rail, and the touch of siding keeps you to the left. On brand spank'n new cloth the odds are most of your siding won't grab at the short rail and will aid you get down table if you manage to touch the long rail.
I'm assuming, based on Shane's choice, that the cut angle was too sharp for my first option
WobblyStroke
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ofc u did u sharkNo big deal, but I said it first.
Ehhh... If you get thin on the 9, you got a nice thin cut that easily travels all the way up table, and back down. If you land full, you are good as well. You gotta come up really short to land bad on this ball going three rails. REALLY short.
Always better to use natural running english to play position if possible. "Take what the table gives you!" Thank you Buddy Hall. The easiest shot is three rails for shape on the nine. You have a huge landing area between the first and second diamond. None of us are Shane, and he can hit shots that we don't need to try. Even the great Shane fell woefully short on his position here. No matter though. He makes that shot and goes up and down for shape on the ten 90% of the time. For us mere mortals it becomes much harder and may be 50-50 to get out from there.
I tried the shot for 15 minutes or so. I think I got the positions of the balls pretty close but the table had medium-worn cloth and medium-lively rails which was different from what Shane was facing.
Shane's way and the usual 3-cushion path worked, but they were both real touchy about angle, speed, and spin.
The way that worked the best for me was to play The_JV's/BB's shot with left draw and arc the cue ball into the upper left corner, hitting the short rail about a diamond from the upper left pocket. That ended up going to the right long rail about two diamonds from the corner for more or less perfect position on the 9 ball. No worries about scratching in that corner or going behind the 10 for the snooker like with the 3-rail natural.
Shane's way and the usual 3-cushion path worked, but they were both real touchy about angle, speed, and spin.
The way that worked the best for me was to play The_JV's/BB's shot with left draw and arc the cue ball into the upper left corner, hitting the short rail about a diamond from the upper left pocket. That ended up going to the right long rail about two diamonds from the corner for more or less perfect position on the 9 ball. No worries about scratching in that corner or going behind the 10 for the snooker like with the 3-rail natural.
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Tell um.
Bob...."No worries about scratching in that corner or going behind the 10 for the snooker like with the 3-rail natura"
Coming off the third rail getting hooked from that angle coming in to Those two balls is Highly unlikely, and very likely will create simple shape for an easy safe or run out. All your doing is laying it ''in there''. High percentage to win either way.
Coming off the third rail getting hooked from that angle coming in to Those two balls is Highly unlikely, and very likely will create simple shape for an easy safe or run out. All your doing is laying it ''in there''. High percentage to win either way.
I don't think it's that cut and dry. If SVB took that much time to think about it and still decided against it, there must be something we are not seeing correctly from our point of view.
Yeah, agree. I was watching it live, (half paying attention) and when he didn't shoot the 3 railer it caught me off guard, and that's why I started this thread. When I went back to link the video, I realized how long he had spent thinking about the shot.
If you find some time on the table, please try the shot and let us know how it comes out. The setup is very important.
The 'natural 3 rail" has you running toward the bottom corner, erring to the bottom short rail. Not to the long rail that some may think it will.
I think he assumed he get allot easier shape with his choice.... He let up on that shot, Knowing he could of easily over stroked the cue ball.
I'll go try it right now.
He thought about it for plenty of time. If the 3-railer was such a natural shot, the GOAT would have played it that way. You need to admit that we don't see the angle in all of it's glory...
Blomdahl has said something to the effect of 'its hard to question the shooter's choice'.
I agree.
Not in my world. ( It is round to just in case you were wondering)
Doesn't it appear the CB will hit first rail at about the middle diamond?
I'm inclined to agree the end position likely to be more the end rail and not the side rail.
Isn't the angle into the rail at least as important as where it strikes the rail?
Of course.. but if you get into the rail any earlier than the second dot you're not going to have enough speed to go around the table