HOW TO AIM … The “AIMING SYSTEM” of the PROS

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I will let @azhousepro handle this one as he sees fit.
Yes, it's aiming, but more like a collection of observations from Dr. Dave, as opposed to a particular system that is being marketed IMO
Seems harmless enough.
j2
Aiming forum is for all things aiming, like this. There is no mention of the aiming forum to be just for marketed systems.
 
I like the way you move.

Lou Figueroa
that’s a 1pocket term
and a compliment
Thank you Lou
Even though I've never played a game of one-pocket in my life, your book review was so well done, that I may begin to dabble.
Now all I need is the time.
I appreciate your comments
Best regards
j2
 
My thoughts on the video:

I hadn't seen the DAM "claims" page before. I stopped it on the screen to read it, and was cracking up.

The video's main point is there is no system per say.

Now, my question for Dr Dave with me playing the critic: you said several times pro's do this, do that, and also you said "this way is best". Most or even all of that is common sense. I must ask though, how many pros did you interview for this video? Are these your thoughts, or did you get them explicitly from pros?
 
My thoughts on the video:

I hadn't seen the DAM "claims" page before. I stopped it on the screen to read it, and was cracking up.

I’m glad you enjoyed my marketing spoof.


The video's main point is there is no system per say.

Now, my question for Dr Dave with me playing the critic: you said several times pro's do this, do that, and also you said "this way is best". Most or even all of that is common sense. I must ask though, how many pros did you interview for this video? Are these your thoughts, or did you get them explicitly from pros?

I have talked to many pros and top players about aiming over the years, but I have honestly learned a lot more by observing many of them up close during play. I have also learned a lot by observing snooker players over the years. They do many aiming-related things very well (as required by their large tables and small pockets). But most of the elements of DAM just make logical sense and are foundational fundamentals of “best practices” pool (as taught by most experienced and respected instructors).
 
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I’m glad you enjoyed my marketing spoof.
Your marketing spoof, how clever. Start a thread and video claiming pros don't really aim but at the same time have all of your material posted at different places and at the end where those who watched it could then pick and choose which ones about aiming or otherwise to purchase.
Now that was $$$$$$LICK! (also incorrect and misleading)
I have talked to many pros and top players about aiming over the years, but I have honestly learned a lot more by observing many of them up close during play.
Maybe you aren't a good listener or observer. Have you observed their eye movements back and forth from CB to OB, OB to CB and balls to pocket when they get down on the shot? What do you think that's all about if it isn't aiming or aligning the orientation between CB and OB to cut angle of pocket?

They do reveal how they aim. Because just like you, they produce videos on how they specifically aim or do other things as well as give lessons. It's beneficial to pool players who want to improve and puts money into their pockets. Isn't that what you do? $$$$$$$

But most of the elements of DAM just make logical sense and are foundational fundamentals of “best practices” pool (as taught by most experienced and respected instructors).
Which instructors are inexperienced and not respected? The ones who say to aim by "feel"? Or are they in the most highly respected?
 
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Concerning pool, there really isn't a difference. But DAM is neither. It is just a silly name I made up as a title under which I could summarize all the things pros do to aim so effectively (without using an "aiming system").
A simple definition of a system is that it is 'a complex whole; a set of things working together as a mechanism or interconnecting network'

"All the things pros do to aim so effectively" when it's a repetitive part of each shot on the table, is in fact a system. "HIS/HER
System." And you can bet it's nothing new. They're all tied into existing systems that are known and documented.
The last time a "new" system was published came about around 27 years ago and has been beaten to death starting on one of the first pool forums on the internet and hasn't stopped. This one included and actually the worst.
 
I’m a fairly serious golfer and appreciate John’s attempt at the analogy, but golfers don’t need to estimate collision angles off the nearest tree or rock. Until they get on the green and have to deal with slope estimation, every shot they have is “straight” - like hitting a pool ball directly into a pocket, which pool newbies learn to do easily. (Of course they factor in draws and fades - but still nothing like nailing a tough cut angle.)

That said, executing a straight golf shot is far, far tougher than executing a straight pool shot. Imagine playing pool from the side with a putter and having to control your clubface angle.
I agree it's not a perfect analogy. But his point is that if your execution sucks, your aim doesn't mean anything.
 
Among other smaller but no less important contributing factors to a successful shot- I think that the 3 key things to do in order to make every shot successful are: you must first work to develop a straight stroke- using whatever training methods work for you, second- the initial finding of the aim point on the OB while standing needs to be more exact than most people think- it only looks fast bc the pros have shot a million balls to develop their keen sense of the OB AIM POINT FOR EACH POSSIBLE ANGLE TO THE POCKET, and third- the final focus on the OB is very, very intense and held until the cue tip is delivered right through the CB.

Great video as long as you understand how to completely develop each aspect of approach to a shot.

Your mechanics should be developed first so that your stroke is 100% developed for moving that cue tip in a perfectly straight line - your stance should allow for good balance and stroke clearance from your body, your aim while standing needs to be very precise- NOT a general area on the OB, your movement into the shot stance needs to align the cue tip straight to the OB target point, your eyes must lock- LOCK- on that OB aim point prior to the final cue movement to the CB and stay there until the tip is no longer in contact with the CB.
 
I used to be a 'Legit' 2 handicap from the early 80's till I quit in the mid 2000's due to a left wrist/hand injury. There is real No 'defense' in Golf as there is in cue games. The defense in Golf is the course/elements/weather, but the player has 14 clubs to deal with all that.
There used to be a "defense" in golf but they got rid of it. It was called the "stymie".
 
I think that the whole point of Dr. Dave's video is that the best players don't really "aim" at all. They just look at the shot and know (from HAMB) how to execute it successfully. I don't care what forum it is in.

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I think that the whole point of Dr. Dave's video is that the best players don't really "aim" at all. They just look at the shot and know (from HAMB) how to execute it successfully.

They don't use an "aiming system," but they do "visualize" the aim, and they also mostly do everything else in the video to help them be accurate and consistent. All of this is "intuitive" and "comes naturally" to them due to HAMB.
 
I think that the whole point of Dr. Dave's video is that the best players don't really "aim" at all. They just look at the shot and know (from HAMB) how to execute it successfully. I don't care what forum it is in.
Exactly... System player or not. Eventually with enough table time, HAMB takes over and pro's "standing aim" is merely shot recognition.
 
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