Smithsonian Museum Billiards/Pool Exhibit

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Anyone know the list of American 12 Cuemakers who were selected to be part of the Smithsonian Museum Billiards/Pool Exhibit. Understand the cue have been at the Smithsonian Museum almost 10 years.

I know some of the list:

Dennis Black-Texas

Ernie Gutierez-California

Jim Buss-Missouri

Thomas Wayne-Alaska

Mike Bender-Alaska

but who were the other seven?:confused:
 
You Mean Richard.

CocoboloCowboy said:
I know some of the list:

Dennis Black-Texas
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I think Paul Drexler (pfd) and Bill Stroud (Josswest) made cues for the Smithsonian, and so did Richard Chudy. Seems like Dieckman did too?
 
Keep the names coming.
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Maybe the exibit will open some day.

cyrex said:
I believe Dennis Dieckman has a cue in Smithsonian.
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I was told by a good source (one of the cuemakers involved) that the Smithsonian has been holding the Cues, and other Memorabilia over 7 + years.

But the exhibit has no targeted opening date. As the hot project for the Smithsonian is a 911 Exhibit. :(
 
CocoboloCowboy said:
Anyone know the list of American 12 Cuemakers who were selected to be part of the Smithsonian Museum Billiards/Pool Exhibit. Understand the cue have been at the Smithsonian Museum almost 10 years.

I know some of the list:

Dennis Black-Texas

Ernie Gutierez-California

Jim Buss-Missouri

Thomas Wayne-Alaska

Mike Bender-Alaska

but who were the other seven?:confused:
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Thomas Wayne
Mike Bender
Rick Chudy (RC3 Cues)
Jerry McWorter
Ernie Gutierrez (Ginacue)
Tad Kohara
Richard Black
Bill Stroud (JOSS West)
Bill Schick
Perry Weston
Samsara
and me (Jim Buss)
 
I just read Dennis's writeup and it didn't happen quite like that at all.
First off all, there was a lengthy article in April, 1997 issue of Billiards Digest on cuemakers and cuemaking. In preparing this article, David Resh contacted the Smithsonian and found out that they had no cues on display. Mr. David Shayt, curator of The National Museum of American History knew that they had an antique rack, and some other stuff that had never been on display.
David contacted me about an exhibit using this stuff, but needed cues. He contacted me because I was the President of the American Cuemaker's Association at that time. He asked for recommendations of which cuemakers to contact.
I discussed it with the Board of Directors of the ACA, and we decided that we were in a no win situation. No matter who we suggested, other cuemakers would cry "foul", and ask "Why not me?". I finally sent David a copy of the First Edition of the Blue Book of cues and let him make the decision.
Their cue rack only holds 12 cues, so that is why they only selected 12 cuemakers. Since that initial selection, several other cuemakers contacted David and asked to be included. David said that he couldn't guarantee that their cues would ever be on display, but if they wanted to send one, then he would accept it in the name of the Museum. Actually, they never guaranteed that the original 12 cues would be on display either. They have had my cue for over 10 years now, and the exhibit is still not open. As I understand it, they are busy working on an exhibit for 9/11.

The 12 cuemakers initially selected are:
Thomas Wayne
Mike Bender
Rick Chudy (RC3 Cues)
Jerry McWorter
Ernie Gutierrez (Ginacue)
Tad Kohara
Richard Black
Bill Stroud (JOSS West)
Bill Schick
Perry Weston
Samsara
and me (Jim Buss)

--JIM BUSS--
http://www.jimbuss.com
 
Jim, any idea why Dan Janes wasn't one of the original cue makers selected? He is in the Cue Makers Hall of Fame and I belive some of the original cue makers that were selected are not. Just interested in your thoughts.

Wedge
 
Jim Buss said:
I just read Dennis's writeup and it didn't happen quite like that at all.
First off all, there was a lengthy article in April, 1997 issue of Billiards Digest on cuemakers and cuemaking. In preparing this article, David Resh contacted the Smithsonian and found out that they had no cues on display. Mr. David Shayt, curator of The National Museum of American History knew that they had an antique rack, and some other stuff that had never been on display.
David contacted me about an exhibit using this stuff, but needed cues. He contacted me because I was the President of the American Cuemaker's Association at that time. He asked for recommendations of which cuemakers to contact.
I discussed it with the Board of Directors of the ACA, and we decided that we were in a no win situation. No matter who we suggested, other cuemakers would cry "foul", and ask "Why not me?". I finally sent David a copy of the First Edition of the Blue Book of cues and let him make the decision.
Their cue rack only holds 12 cues, so that is why they only selected 12 cuemakers. Since that initial selection, several other cuemakers contacted David and asked to be included. David said that he couldn't guarantee that their cues would ever be on display, but if they wanted to send one, then he would accept it in the name of the Museum. Actually, they never guaranteed that the original 12 cues would be on display either. They have had my cue for over 10 years now, and the exhibit is still not open. As I understand it, they are busy working on an exhibit for 9/11.

The 12 cuemakers initially selected are:
Thomas Wayne
Mike Bender
Rick Chudy (RC3 Cues)
Jerry McWorter
Ernie Gutierrez (Ginacue)
Tad Kohara
Richard Black
Bill Stroud (JOSS West)
Bill Schick
Perry Weston
Samsara
and me (Jim Buss)

--JIM BUSS--
http://www.jimbuss.com
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Thanks for the story Jim.
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Jim Buss said:
I just read Dennis's writeup and it didn't happen quite like that at all.
First off all, there was a lengthy article in April, 1997 issue of Billiards Digest on cuemakers and cuemaking. In preparing this article, David Resh contacted the Smithsonian and found out that they had no cues on display. Mr. David Shayt, curator of The National Museum of American History knew that they had an antique rack, and some other stuff that had never been on display.
David contacted me about an exhibit using this stuff, but needed cues. He contacted me because I was the President of the American Cuemaker's Association at that time. He asked for recommendations of which cuemakers to contact.
I discussed it with the Board of Directors of the ACA, and we decided that we were in a no win situation. No matter who we suggested, other cuemakers would cry "foul", and ask "Why not me?". I finally sent David a copy of the First Edition of the Blue Book of cues and let him make the decision.
Their cue rack only holds 12 cues, so that is why they only selected 12 cuemakers. Since that initial selection, several other cuemakers contacted David and asked to be included. David said that he couldn't guarantee that their cues would ever be on display, but if they wanted to send one, then he would accept it in the name of the Museum. Actually, they never guaranteed that the original 12 cues would be on display either. They have had my cue for over 10 years now, and the exhibit is still not open. As I understand it, they are busy working on an exhibit for 9/11.

The 12 cuemakers initially selected are:
Thomas Wayne
Mike Bender
Rick Chudy (RC3 Cues)
Jerry McWorter
Ernie Gutierrez (Ginacue)
Tad Kohara
Richard Black
Bill Stroud (JOSS West)
Bill Schick
Perry Weston
Samsara
and me (Jim Buss)

--JIM BUSS--
http://www.jimbuss.com
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Thank you Jim.

Kevin
 
Well, I called Dieckman, he got out some paperwork and is in the process of trying to prove himself. I thought he did that in his three tours in Nam.

He is trying to send over the documentation from the Smithsonian as we speak. I hope your ready for this it should be pretty fun. If my calculation is correct I will be posting the real truth by morning.
 
CocoboloCowboy said:
Anyone know the list of American 12 Cuemakers who were selected to be part of the Smithsonian Museum Billiards/Pool Exhibit. Understand the cue have been at the Smithsonian Museum almost 10 years.
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Dieckman was selected as one of the 12 Cuemaker!!!!

Mr. Buss, CocoboloCowboy, Ask!
Anyone know the list of American 12 Cuemakers who were selected to be part of the Smithsonian Museum

You only stated:
The 12 cuemakers initially selected are:
Thomas Wayne
Mike Bender
Rick Chudy (RC3 Cues)
Jerry McWorter
Ernie Gutierrez (Ginacue)
Tad Kohara
Richard Black
Bill Stroud (JOSS West)
Bill Schick
Perry Weston
Samsara
and me (Jim Buss)

Question stand. To you "Who Were Actually Selected"? Both Member Or NonMember of ACA.

Since information is like a two sided coin - Dieckman Story or Your.

I will give you a chance to answer or change anything. Before I show your historical inaccuracy. With a new thread and proof.

Bob Watson

Let the fact be known - I don't know Mr. Buss nor does he know me.

The original question was "Who Were Selected " not How or Why. Older Billiard Publications have the Smithsonian Museum Billiards/Pool Exhibit article in them.
If anyone have these articles and can post them it be must appreciated

Dieckman Proof can be found here [two letters]

http://www.cuemaker.com/gallery29futurecuessmithsonian.htm Click on the [x], inside black retangles to see letter

http://www.cuemaker.com/images/withsmithcuealt.JPG Click bottom right to enlarge picture.
 
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American 12 Cuemakers who were selected to be part of the Smithsonian Museum Billiards/Pool Exhibit.

You would of thought, Both the "Blue Book of Pool Cues" and "Billiards Encyclopedia" would of have a separate Chapter to show these cues and Cuemakers.

Does anyone know if these cues been photograph together, if even by Smithsonian?
 
Cuaba said:
Thanks for the clarification Jim. I was wrong about Paul. Sorry.
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Cuaba, by Paul website http://www.pfdcue.com/html/cuemaker_002.html
His cue "Mermaid Cue" 2001 Smithsonian Museum - Washington, D.C.

As for Mr. Buss Clarification: Here an email dated 13 Jan 1999 he sent to Dieckman [ Magnified to 400 or 800 to read] Please note: ACA Members are circle, Non ACA Members are not !!

Copy of !cid_000601c9c8ed$3f2da490$8054e504@cuemaker.jpg

The letter to Dieckman [Dated December 12, 1997] from Mr. David Shayt, curator of The National Museum of American History Stated "Your work would join that of the other eleven custom cuemakers---" Again the letter, Deed of Gift, and email can be found here: http://www.cuemaker.com/gallery29futurecuessmithsonian.htm

I believe Dieckman is the only Original 12 Cuemakers that have actually shown proof, His cue is actually in Smithsonian Museum.

I would like to see copy of Mr.Buss and the other Ten or Eleven Cuemakers Letter from David Shayt and Deed of Gift to The National Museum of American History [Smithsonian Museum].

Bob Watson
 
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When Dieckman built his Smithsonian cue, he made two similar blanks. One he inlayed heavily and submitted for the exhibit, the other he left simple and finished for himself years later. Here is a close look at the twin sister cue to the Smithsonian original. Again, this is the one without inlays that Dieckman kept for himself.

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Until this matter is settled, I have offered to hold all the cues until they can be properly displayed. Any other cuemakers that would like to be represented can send them to me here in Phoenix :D! Dennis, Barry, Joel, Tony, David, Art, Ed? Feel free to PM me for the shipping address.

Thanks and have a nice day!

Steve

(Curator of the Stevestonian Museum)
 
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