?? About Scene from "the color of money"

It is kind of like the answer "does a bear shit in the woods?"

The underlying answer is "yes", but the answer has nothing to do with the original question.

"Are you a hustler?"...
"Do you think I need to lose weight?"...
 
my two cents on Forest

It seemed to me it was Whittaker's way of coming off of the self deprecating roll he had been playing with Newman and was his way of saying "Screw you pal. I got the money." In this instance "Weight' had nothing to do with a spot. Just pushing the knife in further.
Of course, if I know so much why am I working for a living?
keep it nice. Alfie
 
it was a double sided statement... for people that didnt know pool lingo, they thought he was just being a smart butt.

for people that knew what he meant, it makes perfect sense...

if i remember correctly, in that match, eddie was spotting him something? i dont totally remember it, but im pretty sure he was.
 
I had always interpreted it like two hustlers discussing styles. Wasn't Eddie's response something like, "No kid, you're perfect" meaning his approach, appearance (e.g., weight), mindless banter, etc. all fit perfectly to disarm and hustle people.
 
I think the writer did his job well. I have never seen a line from a movie discussed so much. Only the writer really knows but at least he has us talking about it.

As I look back on the movie I wonder if it would have been better to have someone else in play Vincent. Sure Tom Cruise is a huge box draw but just for the sake of argument who would you liked to have seen play the role of Vincent?
 
Cdryden said:
I think the writer did his job well. I have never seen a line from a movie discussed so much. Only the writer really knows but at least he has us talking about it.

As I look back on the movie I wonder if it would have been better to have someone else in play Vincent. Sure Tom Cruise is a huge box draw but just for the sake of argument who would you liked to have seen play the role of Vincent?
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Matt Damon.

BTW, has anybody figured out what the license plate on Fast Eddie's Cadillac stood for?

Just for fun, take this "The Color of Money" Pool Quiz and see how you do: The Color of Money Pool Quiz.

I got all 15 questions correct! :thumbup:

I hope nobody gets No. 8 wrong. :p
 
sjm said:
My thoughts as well. To me, this is just a "don't judge book by it's cover" comment intended to get under Eddie's skin. Amos obviously felt that Eddie had underestimated him and that obesity may have been one of the reasons.

I found this to be playfully humorous. After all, given Eddie's experiences with Minnesota Fats, nobody would be less likely than Eddie to play a man for a chump just because he was overwieght.
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I agree with your analysis. Besides, Amos wasn't getting any weight to start with, so all the comments about handicapp weight don't make any sense.
 
tuda said:
it was a double sided statement... for people that didnt know pool lingo, they thought he was just being a smart butt.

for people that knew what he meant, it makes perfect sense...

if i remember correctly, in that match, eddie was spotting him something? i dont totally remember it, but im pretty sure he was.
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I am pretty sure he wasn't spotting anything. Maybe we should all go and watch the movie again :grin:
 
yes...

HawaiianEye said:
It is kind of like the answer "does a bear shit in the woods?"

The underlying answer is "yes", but the answer has nothing to do with the original question.

"Are you a hustler?"...
"Do you think I need to lose weight?"...
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This comes closest to making the most sense to me.....

Forest doesn't answer his question, "Are you a hustler" , immediately, but when the match is over, and he's got his money, he answers that question in this manner....
 
JAM said:
Matt Damon.

BTW, has anybody figured out what the license plate on Fast Eddie's Cadillac stood for?

Just for fun, take this "The Color of Money" Pool Quiz and see how you do: The Color of Money Pool Quiz.

I got all 15 questions correct! :thumbup:

I hope nobody gets No. 8 wrong. :p
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I got the Oscar question wrong. I couldn't remember if it was Paul or Tom. But I got the rest right.

As far as the license plate is concerned, I don't know but I would imagine it is one of those "inside" kinda things.

Here is a interesting tid bit about the movie,

In the novel that the film is based on, Fast Eddie plays in a tournament against Minnesota Fats, who was played by Jackie Gleason in The Hustler. But Martin Scorsese wanted to take the film in another direction. Paul Newman and Gleason wanted Fats to return in the sequel so the character was written into a new draft of the script. But Gleason felt that the character did not fit into the new story and declined to reprise the role.

-----Taken from TCOM IMDb site-----
 
Cdryden said:
I got the Oscar question wrong. I couldn't remember if it was Paul or Tom. But I got the rest right.

As far as the license plate is concerned, I don't know but I would imagine it is one of those "inside" kinda things.

Here is a interesting tid bit about the movie,

In the novel that the film is based on, Fast Eddie plays in a tournament against Minnesota Fats, who was played by Jackie Gleason in The Hustler. But Martin Scorsese wanted to take the film in another direction. Paul Newman and Gleason wanted Fats to return in the sequel so the character was written into a new draft of the script. But Gleason felt that the character did not fit into the new story and declined to reprise the role.

-----Taken from TCOM IMDb site-----
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That is very interesting. I did not know that. :smile:

I love pool trivia. Here's another one. I read somewhere in one of the older pool periodicals that Ray "Cool Cat" Martin was one of several considered for the Miller Lite beer commercials, but they ended up going with Steve Mizerak.
 
JAM said:
That is very interesting. I did not know that. :smile:

I love pool trivia. Here's another one. I read somewhere in one of the older pool periodicals that Ray "Cool Cat" Martin was one of several considered for the Miller Lite beer commercials, but they ended up going with Steve Mizerak.
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I remember the commercial where he preforms whats now known as the "Just showin off" shot. I watched that as a kid and thought it was the most amazing thing I have ever seen! Did it have a impact on me growing up? Nah, just look at my videos, trick shots and Miller Lite!!!:thumbup:
 
Cdryden said:
I got the Oscar question wrong. I couldn't remember if it was Paul or Tom. But I got the rest right.

As far as the license plate is concerned, I don't know but I would imagine it is one of those "inside" kinda things.

Here is a interesting tid bit about the movie,

In the novel that the film is based on, Fast Eddie plays in a tournament against Minnesota Fats, who was played by Jackie Gleason in The Hustler. But Martin Scorsese wanted to take the film in another direction. Paul Newman and Gleason wanted Fats to return in the sequel so the character was written into a new draft of the script. But Gleason felt that the character did not fit into the new story and declined to reprise the role.

-----Taken from TCOM IMDb site-----
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I've been looking for a copy of the original novel. It's actually very good and a great sequel to The Hustler. I haven't read it in a while but I'm pretty sure Eddie and Fats only played exhibitions, not tournaments. Fats gives Eddie the advice that he's gotta get into the 9-ball tournament scene but first build up his chops by playing 8-ball in bars.

I like the original movie (though I dislike Tom Cruise) but I would love to see a movie more true to the novel. Maybe reboot both, but you'd have to have a VERY good cast.

Until I found this forum, I didn't know who Keith McCready was and I honestly believed the guy playing Grady Seasons was just an actor. I couldn't believe for a minute that someone could be successful with that stroke!
 
krupa said:
I've been looking for a copy of the original novel. It's actually very good and a great sequel to The Hustler. I haven't read it in a while but I'm pretty sure Eddie and Fats only played exhibitions, not tournaments. Fats gives Eddie the advice that he's gotta get into the 9-ball tournament scene but first build up his chops by playing 8-ball in bars.

I like the original movie (though I dislike Tom Cruise) but I would love to see a movie more true to the novel. Maybe reboot both, but you'd have to have a VERY good cast.

Until I found this forum, I didn't know who Keith McCready was and I honestly believed the guy playing Grady Seasons was just an actor. I couldn't believe for a minute that someone could be successful with that stroke!
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LOL that stroke I think was developed from playing as a kid when he couldn't quite see over the table. I may be wrong though. He is an amazing player and I think his mechanics only work because his hand to eye coordination is exceptional.

As far as the book is concerned I haven't got to read them yet. I would love to though. I need to put that on my list of things to do this year.
 
krupa said:
...Until I found this forum, I didn't know who Keith McCready was and I honestly believed the guy playing Grady Seasons was just an actor. I couldn't believe for a minute that someone could be successful with that stroke!
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To learn more out Keith, check out this ---> Keith McCready Wikipedia Article. :smile:
 

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Do you think I need to lose some weight?

I always felt it was 1 hustler asking another is there something I could do to better hide my hustle?

If I lost some weight, would it fit my character better?

It was like Eddie telling Vincent to leave the shirt on with his name on it because "it's a nice touch".

My 2 cent for what it's worth.
 
I didn't dig too deep

My take is that Eddie felt sure he was being hustled fairly early but couldn't quite believe somebody could put a hustle over on him. The repeated question "Are you a hustler?" from Eddie was real I believe although the later times he asked it he was just looking for a hint to confirm what he knew rather than get a straightforward answer. Even when he was sure he was getting hustled Eddie couldn't quit. I think that this was Eddie's low point in the movie as a player just like in many movies the hero loses a fight early in the movie and then redeems himself. Speaking of westerns, I heard a little echo of "Who are those guys?" in the repeated question "Are you a hustler?"'

When Forrest asked him if Eddie thought he should lose some weight after the dealing was done and the way he was acting when he asked said, "Hell yeah I played you for a chump! You didn't think this dumb fat boy could do it, did you?" I agree with those that think it was the answer to the question, "Are you a hustler?"

My take of course.

Hu
 
Jaden said:
He just lost a lot of money, by deflecting that fact, it's a psychological ploy to make Eddie feel at least good about the fact that he isn't overweight like Amos...

This leaves no hard feelings and the potential to make the score again later.

Jaden
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This is how I took it also.
 
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