ABP boycotts Berhman's event
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No doubt. Charlie and Max Eberle were the first leaders of the UPA charge.
I'm just trying to remember which year that was the UPA vs US Open. I'm fairly certain it was 2002 or 2003.
Eric >certain, as in I could be wrong
Ain't that the truth. I remember Rodney Morris opening the side door to the Holiday Inn while the Tropical Storm Isabel was in full motion. I thought he was going to get blown away.
Then there was those little sticks they gave all the Holiday Inn guests when the power went out. We were staying at the Holiday Inn, and at one point, we were the only ones with power.
Then Barry found *and* rented a generator to get the Conference Center up and running, so the tournament would continue. Barry Behrman saved the day. :smile:
There Dave Howard holding that little stick thingie that lights up in the dark. :embarrassed2:
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I am glad you had a wonderful experience,hope you get to do it again.
the open is a top tournament with a 256 field.300 to 500 a day won't get it done.2000 to 5000 a day is what it will take to push pool forward.
bill
Charlie, Max, and the very nice-looking guy from Arizona, whose name escapes me.
I'm right there with you on the memory. I've been needing to do a defrag on my brain for a while now!
Two of the nicest pool industry members in pool, bar none! :smile:
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Maybe it's 'cause I'm on the East Coast, but there's no better feeling than seeing those blue skies and feeling that warm ocean breeze blow through your hair while standing outside in front of the Chesapeake Conference Center.
I've enjoyed some of my best conversations right there, gazing at all the players and pool peeps coming and going.
I've enjoyed some of my best conversations right there, gazing at all the players and pool peeps coming and going.
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I would laugh until the end of my days if Archer himself snuck into the thing at the last second under all those players noses and won another USOpen. That would never, ever not get a chuckle from me.
Guess you weren't around the other times the pool players tried to organize and you didn't see the damage they did to themselves. As an old friend of mine has said often over the years, as long as they are trying to do it themselves, they're doomed to repeat. Too much greed and me, me, me.
Thanks and it was a great experience. I understand that the current economic model doesn't work. Getting 2000 to 5000 people to watch a pool tournament probably isn't going to happen. Barry is an optimist and only if the tournament runs perfectly with no hitches and the attendance is very good will he make a small profit or break even. He is counting on the gate to help him make expenses which has bit him in the *** in the past.
The tournament should be tweaked with shortening the duration, less added money, guaranteed payoffs, different payoff structure, etc to make it a feasible economic venture.
The problem is that the players may be effectively killing the longest running tournament in a tough economic environment, instead of working with the promoters to have great events. This just isn't going to end well for anyone. The players, the industry, independent promoters, fans, etc.
It seems like this press release should only have posted and become public knowledge at the 11th hour, when every other option was exhausted between the players and the promoter.
In an industry on life support, something like this may simply be the final stroke that kills the patient - pun intended.
In an industry on life support, something like this may simply be the final stroke that kills the patient - pun intended.
The players are NOT the only ones who didn't get paid !!!
12ozCurl
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I noticed the Pearl wasnt on that list....
I wonder how many amature playes are going to step up and deliver this year.
This whole thing is kinda sad because I'm gonna be there, and I'mma gonna shoot my best. I will also probally lose. In the end I would rather lose to a Strickland, or Reyes, or Archer. It makes for a better story later on.
I wonder how many amature playes are going to step up and deliver this year.
This whole thing is kinda sad because I'm gonna be there, and I'mma gonna shoot my best. I will also probally lose. In the end I would rather lose to a Strickland, or Reyes, or Archer. It makes for a better story later on.
I think your opinion of what constitutes a big company and it's resources are somewhat out of whack with reality in the current economic climate.
I may be naïve but it is worth a shot. Why not pre-sell live internet coverage to insure the gate. Let the fans support the event if they want to see pro pool grow. I would pay $100.00 for a week’s worth of coverage with two or three user selected matches over any given set.
The last time I went to the US Open I enjoyed sitting behind a couple of pro players one day but had to watch the finals from the nose bleed seats on the TV monitor at the end of the room. I decided right then that it was my last US Open. See it better a year later on DVD.
Seems to me that someone could pre-sell DVDs and live streaming to raise money to support the event. 5k fans at $100.00 is some reasonable support and the costs go down with less need for an arena. Hell it could be played out of his pool room with $1,000.00 admission for those who want live coverage on site.
I am of the opinion that pool does not lend itself well to convention centers. It does display well on the internet. As far as I am concerned DVDs and live streaming can include ads that support the sport. I would even be more inclined to buy from commercial vendors who included their infomercial on the DVD / stream.
Someone needs to get a little creative here.
If players, as part of their admission to the event, had to agreee to put on a demo, engage in an interview, and possibly include tips on the stream and DVDs every one could be encouraged to get involved and help support the sport.
The last time I went to the US Open I enjoyed sitting behind a couple of pro players one day but had to watch the finals from the nose bleed seats on the TV monitor at the end of the room. I decided right then that it was my last US Open. See it better a year later on DVD.
Seems to me that someone could pre-sell DVDs and live streaming to raise money to support the event. 5k fans at $100.00 is some reasonable support and the costs go down with less need for an arena. Hell it could be played out of his pool room with $1,000.00 admission for those who want live coverage on site.
I am of the opinion that pool does not lend itself well to convention centers. It does display well on the internet. As far as I am concerned DVDs and live streaming can include ads that support the sport. I would even be more inclined to buy from commercial vendors who included their infomercial on the DVD / stream.
Someone needs to get a little creative here.
If players, as part of their admission to the event, had to agreee to put on a demo, engage in an interview, and possibly include tips on the stream and DVDs every one could be encouraged to get involved and help support the sport.
Then eventually the union prices themselves out of the global market, refuses to compromise, and leads to the downfall of an entire sector of the economy such as took place in the US auto industry.
Unions had a place in 1850 Europe when kids were used to load explosive charges in mines and people were worked into virtual slavery by company stores. These days with the current employee protection in place in government unions tend to be a negative influence for employees, the economy, government, pretty much everyone but the union leaders.
rackemup27
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Correct me if I am wrong but even though mr. Berhman has been late in paying out in the us open. Hasn't he fulfilled his obligations to paying these players he owed money to? All these players that say they are boycotting this event don't realize what Mr. Berhman is trying to do for this game even through the horrible downfall in the US economy he is doing the very best he can! So all you ABP players should be embarrassed of yourself for skipping this event an to me just shows the true colors of how some professional pool players are an I use the word professional very loosely. I hope the us open is not tainted with lack of players an hope this so called professionals come to there senses